RIP the health service

it's been in a coma for the last 20 years, deserves a peaceful termination.

The NHS, which over the past Years has become the World Health Service,
is in for a Massive Shake Up, You had better have Private Health Cover,
if you are ill, you wont get to a Pensionable Age,
and make sure you leave £5000 for Funeral costs

£5000? Are they planning to put you out with the bins, Sid?

The NHS was abandoned a long time ago. Those of us who can afford healthcare will wave at the toothless, despairing middle and low income dying as we sweep past the hospital steps on the way to our treatment suites and wonder why they haven't hosed the poor and the sick off the streets in this part of town.

Good luck :)

Victorian Britain all Over Again

orioles is right, another failed human experiment of the left that forcibly confiscated the working person's tax dollar to p1ss against a wall they knew wouldn't exist when the time came to pay the ferryman.
why oh why did we not heed the fateful warning of chris de burgh

NHS is stretched to bursting.

Too many chiefs over-ruling too few injuns.

... and too many feckin immigrants!

This thread reminds me why there should be an IQ test before you can vote.

People do love to be dramatic dont they. The NHS isnt perfect and will continue to struggle with growing costs but not much will change in the next 5 years.

Apathy, the great friend of the NHS.

The NHS funding was previously ringfenced, which is why any other cuts were dispropoprtiante.

And I love the NHS. My severe mis-spelling of that last word just threw my spine .

Everytime I've used the NHS the service has been first rate.

Most of the people who complain about it relate to old people who should just die gracefully and stop demanding £20k per month treatments

you mean the old people who funded the nhs?

On their minimum wage jobs. The bankers fund the nhs

My gran retired in her 40s with medical conditions. She's now fast approaching 90 in a home and on about million pills a da.  All paid for by the tax man.

Precisely Zasu, the idea that everyone should be sent statements showing their net contribution is a good one.

Ok, got it. So you're anti NHS but pro eugenics. There's a nationalist socialist party up north that would suit you.

Precisely Zasu, the idea that everyone should be sent statements showing their net contribution is a good one.


that's called private health insurance

Who you on about? I'm Pro NHS.

Just not a hysterical child about it, I'm a realist.

You're probably pro state education, which explains a lot.

And my point about statements was that the level where people become net contributors is higher than most people think, and then, if you spend 30 years at the end of your life costing barrowloads, well the money has to come frm somewhere.

I don't have private health insurance.

Oh I just read your next reply, you're one of those sad left wing tw&ts who projects a million prejudices on other people.

I'll stop wasting my time trying to speak sense to you.

The nhs spunks away billions.

However, I think most people agree with it
  I quite like the fact I know if I'm in an accident the nhs will come and pick me up and then fix me

"Who you on about? I'm Pro NHS."
"you're one of those sad left wing tw&ts"

  I quite like the fact I know if I'm in an accident the nhs will come and pick me up and then fix me

Nice, so the state is just like your mum. Is Mr Cameron your dad then?

"Polybot - finally - someone to make Facts look intelligent"

your political doctrine in a nutshell:
I just want a cocoon paid by everyone else (mainly previous generations) to take care of me, but I don't want old people and foreigners using it

Zazu    08 May 15 12:12 
Everytime I've used the NHS the service has been first rate.

Most of the people who complain about it relate to old people who should just die gracefully and stop demanding £20k per month treatments


I gather from that your not planning on living to an old age then.

sounds like he thinks his gran should be put down

If I get to the stage where I'm sitting in my own sh*t watching bargain hunt ....

I'll either shoot myself or just spend all day on the betfair forums like the rest of you b*ggers

The state of the NHS depends on the state of the economy.

Labour do not have a good record on the economy, and for that reason the NHS is in safer hands under the Tories.

Under the Tories there'll still be a NHS when you need it.
Under labour who knows?
Their immensely expensive and wasteful PFIs more or less shows their incompetence at finances that concern the NHS.

I wouldn't trust them to run a street market after their last run in office.

The state of the NHS depends on the state of the economy.

lower wages means lower ni contributions so yeah your right in  a way....this is defo gonna affect the nhs.
also such a move lowered tax collected.

really clever

Anyone that voted CONs should not be allowed NHS treatment and should be given lower priority over people that didnt vote CONs, and they shoulnt be allowed to protest over public service cuts and nhs going downhill

May I take this opportunity to offer my sincere condolences to the NHS, R.I.P.

coverage here i got quoted 120 without even putting my conditions in.
abroad 40 euros with the conditions in.

now you know why the tories want to privatise it

i would make it a jailable offence for any mp to hold shares in any company they have any chance of influencing....but then again they dont jail mps for expense fiddling....

Anyone that voted CONs should not be allowed NHS treatment and should be given lower priority over people that didnt vote CONs, and they shoulnt be allowed to protest over public service cuts and nhs going downhill

Er, not allowed treatment AND given lower priority?
But pretending for a moment you're coherent, that's fair and reasonable comment. obviously they'd have to be refunded their past contributions, which they could then pay into private health insurance, along with any future contributions.
This would leave non CON voters to fully fund the NHS. Good luck.

May 8, 2015 -- 8:02AM, polybot wrote:

Anyone that voted CONs should not be allowed NHS treatment and should be given lower priority over people that didnt vote CONs, and they shoulnt be allowed to protest over public service cuts and nhs going downhillEr, not allowed treatment AND given lower priority?But pretending for a moment you're coherent, that's fair and reasonable comment. obviously they'd have to be refunded their past contributions, which they could then pay into private health insurance, along with any future contributions.This would leave non CON voters to fully fund the NHS. Good luck.

I think you have missed my point a little

After the last election there were protests by students against tuition fees, teachers and nurses against Auterity cuts, bed room tx etc...

Well who who caused the goverment to get in that made these cuts?? It was the CON and libDUM voters

So anyone who voted foe these should not be allowed to protest and begiven lower priority in the NHS, its their votes thats cuasing the cuts yet they are protesting? How thick are these plebs?

Worst bait ive seen in a long time.

the people voted overwhelmingly.

May 8, 2015 -- 8:51AM, Howdi wrote:

the people voted overwhelmingly.

Yes nothing wrong wrong with that

Im just saying that these peole who voted CONs should not then be allowed to protest if say their mothers care workers are made redundant due to austerity cuts and they should not be allowed to go on protests about public service cuts, cuts in education for their kids etc.... They are the ones who voted in a goverment to make these cuts

and god help them if they need surgery on the nhs and have to wait months for it and their condition gets worse, again the ones who voted CONs should bw last in the queue and for seeing a GP they should be put to last in the queue and made ot wait the longest

Everytime I walk into a doctors or hospital it's full of old people.

Care homes are the best part of £1k a week

That's before they even get NHS treatment

For what? to sleep 23hrs a day then eat biscuits and whinge for the hour they're awake!!

But I don't complain because I know stupidly rich people are paying lots of tax which pays for it.

they'd have to be refunded their past contributions

you reckon when the tories do try and force in private health that they will reduce NI contributions???

not a chance.

You're right Zazu. Every Friday and Saturday night in towns and cities across the country it's the old codgers getting bladdered until they can't stand, throwing-up, passing out, wanting to fight the world and his mate. Ambulances and hospitals full of coffin dodgers. Police cells full of 'em.  Thank god the younger generation aren't like that.

lol

now you talk of binge drinking. etc

i think its fair that those who smoke and drink too much should pay extra......

Zazu  • May 8, 2015 4:08 PM BST 
Everytime I walk into a doctors or hospital it's full of old people

Zazu never away from the doctors demanding they treat the chip on his shoulder.

dont drinkers and smokers already pay a surcharge??   the tax on booze and **** is huge ??

hahahahahhhaha can't say the slang for ciggies  ha ahahahahahhah  we are so precious in our little country

soon won't be able to say muslim or abbott  hahahahahhaha

countrys falling apart already within a week of the CONscumatives in power

Train strike in 2 weeks#
and now the NHS nurses going on strike as well as GP's

Perhaps a 5 year vacation then & come back in May 2020 when possibly your outlook may be better.

I've just spent 4 days and 4 nights in King's College Hospital and I left completely in awe at the N.H.S. I got back home early last night and have nothing but complete and utter respect and the utmost admiration for the staff who looked after me.

Hope your ok Slipps

I hope I'm OK too pumps ! I'll send you a pm in the nearish future, it's not something that I particularly want to share with the hood right now to be honest but you can know. Give me a bit of time to get back to you ok as I have to go back to hospital on Thursday.

Whenever your ready slipps, just let me know you sent me mail on the forum as I can go weeks without going over to the new forum to look to see if there is mail.
Look after yourself.

So, the NHS hasn't collapsed slippy ? Stupid hysteria driven by an unholy union between Unite and NHS managers who are only after protecting their own empires and budgets and pay lip service to the patients.

.

There's a way to pay for the whole NHS which wont cost us anything.

http://www.theguardian.com/money/2003/jul/20/publicfinances.politics

pumphol.   
19 May 15 22:16 
Hope your ok Slipps

Did a bunjee jump off his wallet, badly injured as the rope was too long.