there will be more food banks than bookies!!!

So you'll have a choice of where to go to get your free nosh.

If that's the result of voting Tory all the layabouts will be rushing in their millions to vote for them.
You must find it tempting Pandora.

do foodbanks deliver ? or is it click and collect ?

worts the wine like ?

Only bottled water I'm afraid but wee Nicola has promised to turn it into wine if her wee pal Alex gets elected.

Eeternaloptimist     01 May 15 00:23 
So you'll have a choice of where to go to get your free nosh.
akabula     01 May 15 00:28 
If that's the result of voting Tory all the layabouts will be rushing in their millions to vote for them.
You must find it tempting Pandora.
breadnbutter     01 May 15 00:30 
do foodbanks deliver ? or is it click and collect ?

worts the wine like ?




Easy to sneer and poke fun when you're fortunate enough to be in the position of not having to use food banks to survive

Education is the answer not food banks/charity. Anybody picking up food from a food bank should have to attend a course in cooking and how to make cheap meals. Throw in some money management and you'll have what used to be called Home Economics, a subject taught in all schools years ago.

Food bank usage figures are not as bad as made out:
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http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2015/04/the-trussell-trusts-misleading-figures-on-food-bank-usage-help-no-one/

bix     01 May 15 08:18 
Education is the answer not food banks/charity. Anybody picking up food from a food bank should have to attend a course in cooking and how to make cheap meals. Throw in some money management and you'll have what used to be called Home Economics, a subject taught in all schools years ago.



Could you be more condescending do you think ?

Gin

.'.......... As the independent Full Fact points out, this means the actual number of people using food banks is likely to be around half the headline one million figure....."




Oh, so it's only 500,000 . That's alright then isn't it !

Did I say it was okay?

Is it okay for politicians to bandy around figures that are double the real number?

They will quote figures that are given to them by their advisors. In this case, the difference in the figures is pedantic.

Porridge oats £1.50 for 1kg
2 litres of milk £1
Large loaf   40p
Potatoes, carrots, onions etc.
Of course the poor won't have computers or smart phones so a trip to the library to learn a few cheap recipes.

Facts
01 May 15 09:05
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They will quote figures that are given to them by their advisors. In this case, the difference in the figures is pedantic.



Yes, increasing the true figure by 100% is a mere rounding error

Some people are genuine but I would suspect that at least half of those using food banks have done their benefits on drugs booze and FOBTs rather than eat.

Stupid and ignorant comment

Gin

One million is unacceptable , half a million is unacceptable. A 100,000 is unacceptable. Food banks per se are unacceptable.

Facts can you give some examples of how a person or family could be in positions not to have enough money for food. I am assuming that no debt is involved and you have to prioritise buying food before luxury items including alcohol and cigarettes.

can you book an appointment at a food bank via iphone 6 app ?

Facts
01 May 15 09:21
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Gin

One million is unacceptable , half a million is unacceptable. A 100,000 is unacceptable. Food banks per se are unacceptable.



Where did I say it was acceptable?

Do you think its acceptable to quote figures that are double the real number?

Presumably you think it would be okay for Cameron to say that 2000 jobs a day were being created (when the real number is 1000) or Ed to say that the deficit is actually twice as big as it really is or (you get the picture...........)

I'd stop councils from using taxpayers money to fund the food banks.

If charities want to earn a living out of supplying free food to certain people that's their business. 
Nevertheless using taxpayers' money to operate their scam is not on.

An Average Town of 100,000 residents, Rakes in £110 Million through All Council Taxes inc Commercial, as you Trip over the Broken paving stones or drive through the Potholes in the road, Ask yourself, Where is All this money being Wasted
Only the U.K. and American citizens have to put up with this Robbery, Because We/They now live in a "Police State",
George Orwell got his Facts correct, just the Date wrong.

A guy the other day said he had to get food from the food bank because he had no money left after he'd put fuel in the car so he could get to work.
For the cost of a few gallons of fuel he could get a bike and cycle there but this is where education comes in again.
Food banks and benefits solve nothing but if they are there plenty of people will find reason to use them.

George Orwell massively underestimated what life would be like under a Tory government in the 21st Century.

bix     01 May 15 09:53 
A guy the other day said he had to get food from the food bank because he had no money left after he'd put fuel in the car so he could get to work.
For the cost of a few gallons of fuel he could get a bike and cycle there but this is where education comes in again.
Food banks and benefits solve nothing but if they are there plenty of people will find reason to use them.



What is it about patronising Tories and the command for people to ' get on their bikes and look /go to work !!

Rancid

What is wrong with getting on your bike to go to work?

You Ever tried Cycling a 40 Mile round trip to get to work?,
A man who lived near me used to Cycle a 10 Mile round trip, Eventually he got Knocked off his bike and Killed,
He left a Wife and 3 Young Children, Straight away she had to sell the house.

Everything if work Is 50 miles away

You beat me to it

I would like to know what the % is of people that use the food bank and smoke

Yes I have cycled that far to work and my father in law used to cycle every day from Birmingham to Coventry to get to work in the 50s.
In most Northern European countries cycling is seen as a perfectly acceptable means of transport used by all classes.
Only the UK has an obsession with the motor car.

In the past Ten years the UK Government has Received £120,000,000,000 Tax revenue from tobacco
That's 120 Billion Sterling
Stop All Sales and Smoking, and this Money has to be Replaced,
£5 a Loaf of Bread and a Pint of Milk perhaps,
They will get it one way or another.

By all means smoke if you can afford it after you've paid for life's essentials.

Was just wondering how many people who use food banks waste 8 odd quid a day on cigs..

I Don't Smoke, Never Have

For Every £1Pound spent on Vehicle Fuel,
60% goes into the Government Coffers,
How much is that per Annum??, I cant find out on the Web?,
£100000000000000000

giggitygiggity   
01 May 15 10:11 
I would like to know what the % is of people that use the food bank and smoke

Smokers and drivers pay far more tax than non-smokers and non-drivers.

The main reason for going to a food bank - benefit delay

Note not that benefits are too low, but that they are late. People end up planning their finances so that the day before the benefit payment hits their bank account they literally don't have enough coins to fill a tomy penny falls machine. They don't have to spend like this - as the trussell trust data shows, benefits are more than enough so you can build up savings for a holiday as many benefiterati do, it's that people get into a pattern of this dependent living on a knife-edge behaviour.

Why do people operate their finances this way? If you walk on the edge of a cliff you are technically on dry land but it's not a good idea.
Why does government make mistakes or have processes which delay payments? Governments are always getting things wrong.

There's no answer. But for practical purposes use of food banks is significantly less than it was 5 years ago.

Once again I would ask to see some real life examples and evidence which shows that the present benefits limits is not enough for the provision of food when non essentials spending items are bought after you have got your groceries.
You just have to stand behind an immigrant in any supermarket to see the foods they buy and how far a small amount of money can go these days when buying food which has become less and less expensive than it used to be.

If you choose to prioritise cigarettes, alcohol, other non essential items or get yourself into debt over the provision of food then surely its no one elses fault. Of course when parents make these wrong and selfish priorities their children should not suffer and food banks do serve a good cause in such cases.

I'm not talking about tax...just trying to make the point if they didn't smoke they would have money to buy food and not go to a food bank

Facts thinking the world owes him and his kind a living.
Where there's a food bank they'll be at least 1 bookies.
I bet you a high %age of food bank users either smoke, drink or have a mobile phone. Maybe all 3.
Sick of the layabout culture drowning this country.
Saying they are living in poverty yet churning out babies every year.

more babies= more money..the champagne socialists don't realise that there are many that have kids just so they can live a life on benefits

1m visits to food banks per year, that equates to 2740 visits per day, i know 1 is too many but with a population of 64m 2740 people doesnt seem that high considering a lot of the users will be the homeless/drug users.

also child abusers (hence no fkr wants fck all to do with them) rapists, murderers,and just evil fkers,if there any vulnerable people then thats your fault not the govt your fault yes the likes of you posting on this rancid forum stop moaning and fkin do something

Yawn

You may well yawn. There's obviously not enough oxygen reaching what's left of your brain.

Ignore most of these Pandora, they are just trying to be smartarses instead of squeasing pus from their spots hoping they'll grow up someday.

Funny how all the abusive posters are lefties.
Saw the same in Scotland at the referendum with the Yes campaigners spitting bile at anyone who dared oppose independence.

The abuse is fine aka. It adds to the tribal fun but what seems absent from most (not all there are honourable exceptions) is a total absence of a sense of humour and the ridiculous. Sure some of them will point and laugh but that merely harks back to the bile you mention. Politicians in particular are often perishers. It's our duty to mock them all.

of course none of you tory types have ever abused have you? You abuse humanity by voting for those contemptible ****s.

Well said Tony. Let's kick democracy into touch. Well it does no good as people keep on voting for who they want. We can't be having that.
Everybody should be forced to vote Labour. The likes of Blair had it right. Start enough wars and we'll get everybody into work.

Funny how all the abusive posters are lefties.

I put it down to frustration at seeing their arguments consistently pulled to pieces.

You'd think they'd wise up but few of them ever do.

I think because they refuse to concede defeat, the vast majority of them who come on here must be living on benefits.
All they can see is the side that is likely to give them the most in handouts.

Some of them don't even have arguments.
Just some inner hatred and belief that the world owes them.