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Report moisok April 30, 2015 9:08 PM BST
there isn't a radical idea between the 250 of them and the so called leaders

little or no challenge - sewn up between the three parties and the bbc
Report boxingthefox April 30, 2015 9:08 PM BST
same old same old Plain
Report Ibrahima Sonko April 30, 2015 9:08 PM BST
how doesnt he think it was a leak given the timing ?
Report moisok April 30, 2015 9:08 PM BST
they are looking at 5 years

how about a 30 year plan

we iz fked
Report Just Checking April 30, 2015 9:09 PM BST
The minority parties get loads of coverage this time round.
Who wants to hear Natalie Bennett again, I never want to hear that voice for the rest of my life!
Report brendanuk1 April 30, 2015 9:09 PM BST
quack quack quack Crazy
Report STUDYFORM April 30, 2015 9:09 PM BST

Apr 30, 2015 -- 9:08PM, moisok wrote:


there isn't a radical idea between the 250 of them and the so called leaders little or no challenge - sewn up between the three parties and the bbc


the 3 parties, bbc, MI5, Murdoch, advertisers, party donors and the corporations.

Report moisok April 30, 2015 9:11 PM BST
is there any chance of any of them being honest

how about

we have run it for 5 years and quite honestly it has been a bars tard of a session and we are stuggling
etc etc etc 

like the answer you would get out of a businesman(in the pub) with 10 employess,  but we are working hard to do better etc etc
Report Ibrahima Sonko April 30, 2015 9:11 PM BST
ed trip

.
https://twitter.com/UnknownMinority/status/593868449128042496
Report ReaseHeath April 30, 2015 9:12 PM BST
have n't heard Clegg say holding the EU referendum is a red line for LibDem
Report moisok April 30, 2015 9:12 PM BST
but how can barrage's lot be a minority party at 12 - 18 percent against the libs  8 percent
and not have a shout on this programme

come on - it is an establisment (chelsea type) shut out
Report Just Checking April 30, 2015 9:13 PM BST
Natalie Bennett is on BBC Parliament right now Laugh 
The consipracy nuts who say these sotr of ars*holes have been frozen out need to get a grip.
Report Ibrahima Sonko April 30, 2015 9:13 PM BST
How do you feel about working people having to use food banks.
Report ReaseHeath April 30, 2015 9:14 PM BST
Ed will be remembered for the trip and wearing a Tory tie tonight.

Perhaps it's his Gillian Duffy moment in a Mr. Bean type way...
Report Just Checking April 30, 2015 9:15 PM BST
I'd use food banks if I thought I could get my Caviar and Lark's Tongues for free.
Report STUDYFORM April 30, 2015 9:15 PM BST
Miliband had much tougher questions from the audience from what I can see.
Report boxingthefox April 30, 2015 9:16 PM BST
Would be criminals should be threatened with having to listen to Natalie Bennett 24/7, what would that do to crime figures.
Report boxingthefox April 30, 2015 9:16 PM BST

Apr 30, 2015 -- 9:15PM, STUDYFORM wrote:


Miliband had much tougher questions from the audience from what I can see.


Correct

Report Just Checking April 30, 2015 9:16 PM BST
That audience member is a complete idiot.
Anyone who voted LibDem on the assumption they'd not go into a coalition with the Tories is a fool, they never ever said or even implied that.
Report brendanuk1 April 30, 2015 9:17 PM BST
wheeling out Greece Cry
Report Just Checking April 30, 2015 9:17 PM BST
People who don't understand coalition government are just too stupid to vote.
Report ReaseHeath April 30, 2015 9:18 PM BST
^correct, the only possible reason for voting LibDem is surely if you have a really good constituency MP.
Report boxingthefox April 30, 2015 9:18 PM BST
Stepped up to the plate, where's Jeremy Vile !!!!!
Report STUDYFORM April 30, 2015 9:18 PM BST
I voted Lib Dem because I didn't want a Tory govt. I suspect many others did the same.....

Then I got one.
I will never vote Lib Dem again.
Report Ibrahima Sonko April 30, 2015 9:18 PM BST
he was a bit thick
Report Just Checking April 30, 2015 9:19 PM BST
The LDs said last election they'd try to form a coalition with whoever got the most votes, and that's what they did.
If you take from that that a coalition with the Tories was ruled out, you are a complete idiot, like that guy in the jumper.
Report Ibrahima Sonko April 30, 2015 9:20 PM BST
as many brits working in europe as europeans working in britain ?
Report guinness2dear April 30, 2015 9:21 PM BST
That old chestnut again......

We don't move abroad by the 1000s and live in a fackin enclave!
Report STUDYFORM April 30, 2015 9:21 PM BST
No they didn't, and it took them 2 days to decide which party they'd actually join with.

They purported to be the least right wing of the 3 parties in 2010.

If you recall a coalition with the Tories before the 2010 election, idiocy is merely the least of your problems.
Report cruso April 30, 2015 9:21 PM BST
Wish someone would ask this ...
Nick,would you be happy to continue being Deputy PM in a Con / Dlib coalition?
Report moisok April 30, 2015 9:21 PM BST
they are all mixed up with the same non democratic centalised decision making system that is westminster( civil service included)  until you know that you know nothing

until this is smashed you will continue with the same old corrupt cabal
Report STUDYFORM April 30, 2015 9:22 PM BST
He would deny it, cruso.
He would go with whoever gives him the best job.
Report brendanuk1 April 30, 2015 9:22 PM BST
Nicks going to lose his seat, so has other worries than being DP
Report ReaseHeath April 30, 2015 9:23 PM BST
the compromise would be on the date of the EU referendum
Report HH Sultan Vinegar April 30, 2015 9:23 PM BST
many say Clegg will get a job in Europe if he loses his seat, what as, a draft excluder?
Report boxingthefox April 30, 2015 9:23 PM BST

Apr 30, 2015 -- 9:21PM, moisok wrote:


they are all mixed up with the same non democratic centalised decision making system that is westminster( civil service included)  until you know that you know nothinguntil this is smashed you will continue with the same old corrupt cabal


Correct, this is just the "who's turn is itto tinker with everything" nom.

Report Just Checking April 30, 2015 9:23 PM BST
I.S. I think the figure abroad is pretty large.

Studyform I'm not arguing with you as you are jsut flat wrong.

I follow politics and I know exactly what they said at the time, and being frustrated by all the people saying they'd sold out when they had done no such thing.
Report STUDYFORM April 30, 2015 9:23 PM BST
I honestly think the Lib dems will be decimated next week.
Report HH Sultan Vinegar April 30, 2015 9:24 PM BST
laddies have them at 50s to lose all their seats
Report guinness2dear April 30, 2015 9:24 PM BST
I already lost mine at Punchy today..
Report moisok April 30, 2015 9:25 PM BST
yeah quickly shut him up talking sense   quickly quickly
Report Ibrahima Sonko April 30, 2015 9:25 PM BST
good question

We would not be able to sell if we were not in europe Cry
Report ReaseHeath April 30, 2015 9:25 PM BST
somebody's going to mention Switzerland in a minute...
Report Just Checking April 30, 2015 9:26 PM BST
That's a huge organ behind the audience.
Maybe seeing a huge organ was what put Ed off tonight, and led to the hand in the pocket Laugh
Report Mighty Whites 2008 April 30, 2015 9:26 PM BST
just checking how many of those abroad are working and how many are retired?


Are the quality of people leaving to work abroad better, similar or worse than those arriving?
Report STUDYFORM April 30, 2015 9:26 PM BST
JC.

I listened, about 3 months ago, to the LibDem chairman on the radio, saying that people were completely disenchanted and felt betrayed, and he said he couldn't argue with that and how it would take a long time to get back any credibility.

You think everyone who isn't cut from your cloth is plain wrong.
Please don't assume you're automatically cleverer than them too.
You are not alone in following politics.
Report Just Checking April 30, 2015 9:27 PM BST
I'd guess the people who lose are unfortunately probably higher earners, if you miss out the people goign to do bar work in magaluf  ;)
Report moisok April 30, 2015 9:27 PM BST
we must not every think of any country leaving the eu

quick - silence the protest - wait till we get a referendum - if we get one - it will be nothing like the pro eu bbc censor we have just seen from clegg/and dimlebobble
Report Mighty Whites 2008 April 30, 2015 9:27 PM BST
cleggs talks about trade with europe. Does he seriously think europe would cease trading with us if we left. The eu exports more to is than it import from us
Report STUDYFORM April 30, 2015 9:28 PM BST
That was a relatively easy 28 minutes
Report boxingthefox April 30, 2015 9:28 PM BST
Quite a few red herrings in that 28 minutes.
Report Ibrahima Sonko April 30, 2015 9:28 PM BST
all about what tax breaks the uk can give
Report Mighty Whites 2008 April 30, 2015 9:29 PM BST
nice of dimmbleby to not mention farage is on later
Report Just Checking April 30, 2015 9:29 PM BST
Studyform I think I've argued with you before, and I think I remember why I gave up as you start projecting your own cr*p onto other people.

There are many people who voted LD to try to keep Labour out or at least stop a majority. What about them?

And as to factual argument I know what the LDs said at the time, I'm not even going to argue that they did not rule out any coalition, and said they'd try first to work with the largest party, I remember it well.
Report ReaseHeath April 30, 2015 9:29 PM BST
next Peter Kay in Car Share

Passenger: Ed Miliband
Report moisok April 30, 2015 9:29 PM BST
if we leave the eu we won't be able to sell a thing - yeah sure!!!
Report Mighty Whites 2008 April 30, 2015 9:30 PM BST
just checking a fair chunk must be people who have retired semi retired and headed for the sun
Report Just Checking April 30, 2015 9:30 PM BST
Am I alone in thinking Peter Kay is just sh*t?

Garlic bread. Hilarious. It'll be on his gravestone.
Report boxingthefox April 30, 2015 9:32 PM BST
No mate can't watch him .
Report Just Checking April 30, 2015 9:32 PM BST
Yes mighty white I do wonder what spain thinks about all the pensioners, I think I've wondered before about how that is funded? You pay in during you working life and tend to take out at the end - so they pay in here then become infirm in Spain - doesn't seem fair if Spain is paying the bill!

But maybe there is some sort of billing like Spain charges the UK or something.
Report Ibrahima Sonko April 30, 2015 9:34 PM BST
Some Twitter data on #bbcqt: most tweeted moment was Miliband stumbling off the staging: 4,200 tweets per minute. Average 1.2k per minute
Report boxingthefox April 30, 2015 9:34 PM BST
I spent 3 months in Spain last year, they talk about us the same way we talk about immigrants, and the drain on their health system is a major issue with them
Report STUDYFORM April 30, 2015 9:36 PM BST
Just Checking.

You write reams of crap on here (have a look back at some of it) where ANYONE disagreeing with you is some sort of idiot, I've projected nothing onto anyone.
You have and always do.

Incidentally I'm puzzled as to why you feel some sort of intellectual superiority, it is a misplaced delusion.
As I said to you before, your condescension knows few bounds.

Don't worry about having to argue, I'm going to bed now.
Report moisok April 30, 2015 9:37 PM BST
the gutless spanish have a nerve after what we did to napoleon

and staying out of ww11  a fascist regime  hahahahahha
Report STUDYFORM April 30, 2015 9:37 PM BST
Oh, one last thing.

I think Peter Kay is crap too. Happy
Report boxingthefox April 30, 2015 9:38 PM BST
GN Study good luck. Wink
Report Pokermonster April 30, 2015 9:38 PM BST
I've just turned over to watched the snooker and, with typical BBC bias, there's fifteen reds and only one blue.
Report Just Checking April 30, 2015 9:39 PM BST
Studyform .. projecting projecting projecting.
Actually the idiot statement above was typed in a general sense, it was just bad timing that made it look like a direct response to you, but on reflection I stand by it.

People who voted LD on the assumption they'd never work with the Tories and view the coalition as some big sell out are just ignorant - they are, literally, factually incorrect.
Report Just Checking April 30, 2015 9:46 PM BST
And just for the record that is true, I didn't intentionally call studyform directly an idiot earlier to try and start a fight, it just read that way due to timing and my use of "you", you'll notice in other posts when I'm talking to people I tend to use their name :)
Report boxingthefox April 30, 2015 9:50 PM BST
JC this medium is ripe for misunderstandings, mistakes, etc, especially when question time is on. Wink
Report lybertyne April 30, 2015 9:53 PM BST
I've just turned over to watched the snooker and, with typical BBC bias, there's fifteen reds and only one blue.


and no purple.  leftie cünts.
Report Just Checking April 30, 2015 9:53 PM BST
I'm just annoyed that after 5 years people still don't understand coalitions and that they are by definition a compromise, and if every time the smaller party joined with a bigger party they were called wh*r*s and sellouts they'd never happen.

The way the LDs are treated is stupid, all this stuff about "they just jump into bed with anyone" .. 
What they did is just perfectly normal politics.
Report scandanavian_haven April 30, 2015 9:55 PM BST
Clegg's a dead man walking whichever way it's spun, he's just enjoying his few days in the limelight.
Report boxingthefox April 30, 2015 9:56 PM BST
FWITW the LDs probably stopped or curtailed some of the worst "Austerity" measures and will now pay for that, It became a lose lose situation for them.
Report Just Checking April 30, 2015 9:58 PM BST
Yes, but clegg is quite good on screen.

He'll probably turn up on Eastenders Laugh
Report Facts April 30, 2015 10:03 PM BST
Just Checking     30 Apr 15 20:50 
I was counting cruso but when my calculator hit 58008 I turned it upside down and it said boobs, so I stopped as I was laughing too much :)



Which just about sums up your intellect imo.
Report Facts April 30, 2015 10:07 PM BST
STUDYFORM     30 Apr 15 20:53 
Yeah.....
Cameron brilliant, honest and straight.....



After 5 years of shlt. - you still think this ?

God help us
Report donny osmond April 30, 2015 10:09 PM BST
cameron seemed to get better questions,



heads will roll at bbc for this unbiased event


but that peter kay talked more sense than the other three
put together
Report boxingthefox April 30, 2015 10:10 PM BST
Facts, Study was being ironic, because people were bashing ED, re read it, then you can apologise to him ??
Report Facts April 30, 2015 10:13 PM BST
Yep , you're correct, too much wine ! I apologise Studyform Happy
Report boxingthefox April 30, 2015 10:14 PM BST
Wink good on you Happy
Report Just Checking April 30, 2015 10:23 PM BST
I'd be turning to drink too if I was a Labour supporter after Ed's peformance tonight Laugh
Report Hamsterdam April 30, 2015 10:51 PM BST
Farage now Laugh
Report Ibrahima Sonko April 30, 2015 10:56 PM BST
brave man going on a show with jo coburn
Report DStyle April 30, 2015 11:07 PM BST
milliband's undoing may ultimately be all the media polish.

an authentic and convincing awkward geek is probably far more palatable to the public than an awkward geek doing a 3rd rate impression of tony blair.
Report giggitygiggity April 30, 2015 11:25 PM BST
Milliband lost the election on the simple did you overspend question Happy
Report RichardHughes April 30, 2015 11:27 PM BST
These people asking questions are always from the point of view of poor people (Maybe working class is a better way of putting it). Why don't this mugs moaning about nhs and bedroom tax can just go die you tramps.
Report Pleasegivemeanailedontip April 30, 2015 11:30 PM BST

There are many people who voted LD to try to keep Labour out or at least stop a majority. What about them?


Who cares?
Report MrBaboon May 1, 2015 5:47 AM BST
Miliband was poor he was given a tough time
Report Facts May 1, 2015 9:10 AM BST
Far far tougher time than was given to Cameron ! So much for BBC being biased toward left wing !
Report donny osmond May 1, 2015 9:35 AM BST
heads rolling at bbc towers

they were not supposed to be real people

and whose idea was the raised stage ?

poor luvvie cant do steps

reminds me of dear old gerald ford...couldnt walk AND chew gum
Report brendanuk1 May 1, 2015 9:35 AM BST
FT support Tories claiming Miliband is preoccupied with inequality. The man who wrote it?

[img]http://images.onesite.com/community.betfair.com/user/brendanuk1/bfd40a20b12406e57bc4b2b6870963e7.jpg?v=193024[/img]
Report Facts May 1, 2015 10:08 AM BST
Quite !
Report vin2385 May 1, 2015 11:09 AM BST

May 1, 2015 -- 9:10AM, Facts wrote:


Far far tougher time than was given to Cameron ! So much for BBC being biased toward left wing !


Just shows what happens when the audience has a fair split between Cons and Liebour. As Labour is the more rancid of the 2 parties there is naturally more to slag 'em of with

Report akabula May 1, 2015 11:26 AM BST
Labour got us into the mess we're in. The Tories have at least tried to do something about it.
Every working person up to £900 per year better off thanks to the raising of the personal allowance.
Report giggitygiggity May 1, 2015 11:27 AM BST
Dimbleby made best point that borrrowing and the deficit increased ever year in the boom years before the crash..and he cant bloody accept that he overspent!
Report spellingandgrammarchecker May 1, 2015 11:34 AM BST
I never watched it.

Joanne Gosling said on BBC news this morning 'The three main parties took part in a Question Time Special last night.'

Second later they went to their political correspondent, Norman.

While he was talking, the poll of polls appeared on the bottom of the screen. LaughLaughLaugh

And as usual - although vastly out-numbered by the Tory blue and Labour red, the UKIP purple rectangle had a higher number in it (14) than the yellow Lib-Dem rectangle (8)

So how did Gosling manage to state that QT was between the 3 main parties when the poll of polls shows quite clearly that the Lib-Dems are doing worse than UKIP.
Report jed.davison May 1, 2015 1:39 PM BST
Never mind all the polls, wait till next Friday and count the MPs, You never know, ukip might still have one.
Report spellingandgrammarchecker May 1, 2015 2:12 PM BST
That's irrelevant.

The main 3 parties are the 3 parties leading the poll of polls.

Lib-Dems are not 3rd.

BBC bull$hit.
Report Steamship May 1, 2015 4:20 PM BST
Then three main parties are represented by the MPs so next week it will be Cons, Lab, SNP, Lib Dem, UKIP
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