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neworder69
23 Apr 15 19:05
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Gents.
I am after some advice again from many wise sages on here........
Got this lawn,its full of weeds and dandy lions, bought this weedol stuff(various places said it was the best) and have hand watered this stuff in 15ml per 5 ltr water... *10sqm........its a lot of grass(no thinly veiled I am not Rich!!) anyway it took ages and it does not seem to be working
I have weeded out some of the bigger ones but I am leaving holes everywhere!!!!!
Do you have any advice?
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Report Foinavon April 23, 2015 7:15 PM BST
Selective weedkillers take 4 weeks or more to work. When did you apply it?
Report hectoratoratora April 23, 2015 7:19 PM BST
How long ago did you do this? you often have to wait 10 days before you see much difference . If you have access to a sprayer its better than a watering can.Dont know anything about weedol but SBK brushwood killer is the dogs b***ocks,it kills everything apart from grass.
Report hectoratoratora April 23, 2015 7:21 PM BST
Also 15ml to 5l sounds a bit girly ,are you sure thats right.
Report Hank Hill April 23, 2015 7:24 PM BST
Get rid of the lawn for me.
Report boxingthefox April 23, 2015 7:48 PM BST
What you need to do now is put a cup of whiskey in a full watering can. DoneWink
Report boxingthefox April 23, 2015 7:49 PM BST
The cheaper the whiskey the better
Report blackbarn April 23, 2015 7:50 PM BST
Foinavon is correct!  In addition most selective and/or systemic weedkiller rely on the plant being in active growth, so you may have been a little early which would delay the impact.  Be patient!
Report neworder69 April 23, 2015 9:03 PM BST
Thanks for the replies gents,much appreciated............patience it seems though the blurb on the packet did say see results in 3 days.......put iton 4 days ago,i know its early but there seem to be more.
The 15ml per 5ltr is what it said to use so i stuck to it pretty much until i just lost the will to live and started pouring it in the can!!!
Hector i will try that brushwood if this does not do the job

fox...........you serious about the whiskey?

think i will dig a few more biguns out tomorrow tryingto nick a few quid on the darts rightnow,was slating barney when he lost throw at 4-4 but he brought me some cash in the end!
thanks again
Report donny osmond April 23, 2015 9:06 PM BST
dandelions can look quite pretty, but dig them out before the clocks spread their seed
Report boxingthefox April 23, 2015 9:07 PM BST
Forgive meBlush it's a very old joke, "How will whiskey help" it will save you a lot of hard work as the grass comes up half cut. Plain




I'll get me strimmer.Sad
Report blackbarn April 23, 2015 9:35 PM BST
neworder69 - You did use Weedol Lawn Weedkiller, didn't you?  Not just straight Weedol?  If the former, you wont have a problem increasing the dosage, the grass will just die nearly as fast as the weeds.

nb SBK Brushwood killer is NOT designed for lawns, and in any event you wouldn't use it anywhere this early in the season anyway. Some smart minds on hereCrazy.
Report s.kenbo April 23, 2015 9:38 PM BST
Can you get your tape measure out and go and measure it again please, 10m2 isn't a very big area and you say "it's a lot of grass", you could weed that in no time.
Report the.mad.dog.man April 23, 2015 9:47 PM BST
when the weeds are gone and you like green grass piss in a watering can for a week then spinkle on lawn grass will go brown then lovely green grass will come this is true
Report blackbarn April 23, 2015 9:57 PM BST
mad dog man - This is NOT true.  Urine is useful but not undiluted on lawns and after a week in the can the ammonia would kill nearly anthing.  Bloody good for compost mind.
Report the.mad.dog.man April 23, 2015 10:06 PM BST
it will kill grass but then lovly green grass will grow promise
Report blackbarn April 23, 2015 10:20 PM BST
I know you are not being entirely serious but to take you at your word, you are saying that the residual fertilising effect of the urine would result in lush growth arising from dormant grass seed in the soil. There is an element of truth in this but dormant weed seeds will  of course experience the same benefitWink  You will end up back where you started.
Report boxingthefox April 23, 2015 10:23 PM BST
1. Urine as Fertilizer

Did you know that human urine is chock full of nitrogen? Okay, maybe you did, but you might be wondering why that’s a good thing, and what it has to do with your garden. Well, plants generally need more nitrogen than any other element, as it’s used to synthesize amino acids, enzymes, proteins, and chlorophyll, and some plants suck up far more than others do.
Report boxingthefox April 23, 2015 10:25 PM BST
8 Reasons Why You Should Pee in Your Garden.http://www.lifehack.org/articles/lifestyle/8-reasons-why-you-should-p...
Report blackbarn April 23, 2015 10:36 PM BST
Boxingthefox - a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but to cut to the chase.  Neat human urine will kill lawns. Of course it has a high nitrogen content but you need to get it to a state in which it can be used by plants - via very heavy dilution and or recyling by combining with composting. You'll note that NOT ONE of the "eight reasons" in your suggested thread suggest putting it neat on a lawn.
Report boxingthefox April 23, 2015 10:42 PM BST
blackburn,  I did not Drink deep, ( a little knowledge is a dangerous thing)or taste  Pierian spring.

I put that up as a matter of interest to the OP. I have no knowledge of peeing on lawns and it's effect.
Report boxingthefox April 23, 2015 10:43 PM BST
The 10.23 post is a c and p from the article.
Report blackbarn April 23, 2015 10:50 PM BST
Sorry boxing, I had mistakenly assumed that you had read the thread and were following the discussion as it moved from weedkiller to fertiliser. Odd that you ended up at urine tooLaugh
Report the.mad.dog.man April 23, 2015 10:50 PM BST
try it get a patch of lawn and just try it when a dog or cat piss on lawn goes greener
Report boxingthefox April 23, 2015 10:55 PM BST
Laugh No problem blackburn, that 10.23 post does look as if i'm saying it instead of it being a piece from the article. Wink
Report Foinavon April 23, 2015 10:56 PM BST
I always put urine on the compost heap, it speeds up decomposition no end. Don't save it up thoughCrazy just use what is produced while working there.
Report blackbarn April 23, 2015 10:59 PM BST
mad dog - the high levels of nitrogen and ammonia kills the grass (less in dogs than bitches). The urine spreads and is diluted by exposure to the air and spread through the soil, such that it can be safely absorbed by the plant; which is why you get those bright green "bitch rings" on your lawn.   

Anyway, I've tried; If you want to treat your lawn with neat urine, then just go ahead and good luck.
Report blackbarn April 23, 2015 11:08 PM BST
Foinavon - we are in violent agreement!   How is your veg garden (I recall you are in the midlands).  Funny spring here (Sussex) - average temps (particularly at night) in nearly every respect, except we have had lots of sunshine and virtually no rain for the last five weeks.
Report Capt__F April 23, 2015 11:23 PM BST
how come dog wee kills grass then?
Report blackbarn April 23, 2015 11:37 PM BST
Not just dogs Capt.  You can do it too.
Report Capt__F April 23, 2015 11:41 PM BST
i do sat nights
Report Foinavon April 23, 2015 11:49 PM BST
Very dry on top here too Blackbarn. Some rain expected at the weekend though.
The cold nights in the Midlands mean it's too early for planting or sowing most things yet but we have a flush of weed seedlings which I've been busy hoeing off.
Excellent crop of Rhubarb which is flourishing in the warm daytime weather and the garlic is growing well and promising a bumper crop in June.
Report Facts April 24, 2015 1:49 AM BST
Nitrogen in neat dog urine kills gras. As blackbarn states, the diluted version, ( outer ring of the edges of the pool ) goes greener and lush. ) that's ok, but you still have dead brown grass( inc roots) in the middle.
Report Burton-Brewers April 24, 2015 8:20 AM BST
dandelions were at their peak condition yesterday, if you're making wine they always say pick them on April 23rd. That's today's useless bit of info sorted.
Report the.mad.dog.man April 24, 2015 8:41 AM BST
keep weeing on the  lawn for greener grass
Report screaming from beneaththewaves April 24, 2015 8:58 AM BST
Had an excellent salad for lunch yesterday: dandelion leaves and flowers from up the banks in the lanes around here, with cheese and tomato and a bit of salt and olive oil.
Report alleged22 April 24, 2015 9:25 AM BST
water the urine down  and water grass, results in lush grass growth, as someone stated the nitrogen boosts chlorophyll, greener grass Happy
Report eight ball April 24, 2015 9:45 AM BST
Find a local public phone,call cops, inform them of suspicious diggings going on soon after the Hatton heist at said address.
Wait 4 days till they leave massive hole, fill in start afresh.weeds bindi's gooone.
Report neworder69 April 24, 2015 9:53 AM BST
Foinavan
I am in Midlands also( Cheadle area) I have always said there seems to be more weeds here than where I am from(Leeds) prob rubbish but it seems that way

Kenbo........no mate theres about well I dont know loads of grass maybe nearly hectre? that was 15ml of solution per 10m2.
Probably not helped by being out in the sticks next to a farm,very open and catches the wind(niceviews though!)
Anyway you are all very definatley wanting a lawn update as you will no doubt be thinking about it!!!!:)
Weeds are dying as we speak,Dandylions are looking very unhappy:) but its all the weeds mixed up in the grass I am after shifting so I will do as you all have advised and be patient.
The whiskey thing  was funny showed it to my wife.......I did not know if it was being serious but would have been willing to try it!!!! how stupid am I:)
Thanks for the help I am off to pee on the lawn!
Report neworder69 April 24, 2015 9:54 AM BST
eight ball :)
If I had the jewels I would not be worrying about weeds
Report the.mad.dog.man April 24, 2015 10:42 AM BST
piss is also good for getting rid of moss on lawns
Report Foinavon April 24, 2015 10:46 AM BST
Weed seeds are everywhere neworder. They are well acclimatised and hardier than the cultivars we grow for food and flowers so if you don't keep on top of them they take over. For flower and vegetable beds, your hoe is your best friend and a bit of hoeing should be the first job you do every time you garden. Keep the blade sharp at all times.
You can't use the hoe on the lawn so mow regularly and spread lime on it every autumn. Alkaline conditions will suppress moss.
If the lawn is infested with rosette weeds and you don't have the time to dig them out then you have to resort to chemical weedkillers. Best not to compost grass cuttings after treatment as many weedkillers persist in the grass blades and you could end up killing your plants when you use the compost.
Enjoy your garden.
Report neworder69 April 24, 2015 11:25 AM BST
Thanks Foinavon.
I am not a good gardener but do like it to look nice and neat.
I will buy a hoe sounds like it will help me sort out along the drive.
Not long been in this house and its only now we have been able to start to sort the garden out,it has not been looked after for a long time.
Right now doing loads of work just making it ready to actually make it look nice if you know what I mean
like pressure washing paths,sorting drive border, lawns, hanging baskets etc etc.
Its a pain in the ar5e because putting loads of work in without it looking the part yet but I know a day will come when it will be worth it:)
Might hire a man to come help me ........I'm getting too old :)
Report the.mad.dog.man April 24, 2015 12:55 PM BST
just get your d i c k out and piss on your lawn
Report screaming from beneaththewaves April 24, 2015 1:26 PM BST
Oi'm Bayleaf, Oi'm the gardener,
Oi work from early dawn.
You'll find me sweeping up the leaves
'N' p1ssin' on yer lawn.
Report Foinavon April 24, 2015 1:55 PM BST
Good luck with your garden neworder. As Blackbarn said, you need patience but it will come right sooner than you think. Gardening is all about planning and doing a bit regularly and at the right time. Don't try and do everything at once otherwise you will get discouraged.
I sometimes feel my age too and have given up digging except for unearthing potatoes and use an azada and Canterbury (right angled) fork for tilling instead. They are far less effort than conventional fork and spade when you get used to them. You can find them on Amazon or this site too.
http://www.get-digging.co.uk/tools.htm

Always buy the best quality tools you can afford and they will last you a lifetime.
Report Foinavon April 24, 2015 2:03 PM BST
Nice one Screaming. I find dandelions a bit too bitter but enjoy chicory with a bit of olive oil and vinegar. Although slugs will eat chicory, they prefer lettuce so I plant a few sacrificial lettuces alongside to minimise the attack.
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