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Facts
23 Apr 15 09:24
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I like this quote :-

'........I think you misunderstand the Labour vote. I don't think many of us will be voting Labour because we are blind to the failings of the last Labour government. Most of us were very disappointed by it. But we would still much rather see a Labour government than a Tory government. We loathe the Conservative Party in ideology and in practice. We see support of the Conservative Party as indicative of a profound lack of generosity, decency and compassion in a person. And so we are proud to be doing all we can to get rid of them........'
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Report macarony April 23, 2015 9:42 AM BST
You should only vote for the LabConDems, if you are happy with the state of the country and the direction they have taken us.

I am not so I will be voting UKIP.
Report Facts April 23, 2015 9:53 AM BST
Do yourself a favour and save the trip to the Polling Station.
Report bongo April 23, 2015 9:57 AM BST
We see support of the Conservative Party as indicative of a profound lack of generosity, decency and compassion in a person.

We are one of the most generous and decent and compassionate countries in the world.
Charitable giving by private sector is at record levels.
Immigrants want to come because it's a decent place, work hard, and send their hard-earned home to causes of their choosing ( about 3* what direct foreign aid comes to )
It's our National Day ( for 4/5ths of us ) and are we taking a bank holiday - no we're out there generating taxation and working.

The problem with Labour is they at heart they now believe generosity and compassion should be the function of government, not free acting individuals. Witness Jim Murphy wanting to take £175 mill of taxpayers money to abolish food banks. Yet the main reason for people going to food banks is 'benefit delay'. In other words the State is too slow and has fecked up. And he wants the State to abolish one of the short term solutions that people give freely to.

LD, UKIP, Con, even Loony are in theory about letting the people be free to be as generous as they want to be, and we certainly are generous.

Vote NOC!
Report twizzle22 April 23, 2015 10:36 AM BST
macarony speaks for all sensible members on chit chat.
Report wildmanfromborneo April 23, 2015 10:48 AM BST
Facts is typical of Labour not the Labour voter.

Facts like his Labour Party hates his own country,hates its culture,its history and its traditions.
They promote inferior cultures.

The Conservatives are no friend of the working class but they don't hate them.
Labour despise the working class especially the in their eyes the uneducated working class.

Facts is a great example in this,he calls them " swivel eyed" " knuckle draggers " to him they are ignorant not enlightened like him and his Labour metropolitan elite.

The only party speaking for the British working class is UKIP.
The only leader speaking for the working class is Nigel Farage.

Don't believe the propaganda,don't believe the smears of the BBC on Farage,listen to what he says.
Report Dotchinite April 23, 2015 11:23 AM BST
So many on the left are consumed by hatred for people who disagree with them. You dont see it the other way around anywhere near as much. Read the postings on sites like the Guardian and some of their posters are truly frightening in their hate.

You can just imagine them faces contorted in anger their blood pressure soaring as time after time they write things like "evil tory scum".
Report spellingandgrammarchecker April 23, 2015 11:59 AM BST
Facts is a wanchor.
Report twizzle22 April 23, 2015 12:12 PM BST
The three posts immediately above this one are from the formrites i'm talking about.
Report Facts April 23, 2015 12:32 PM BST
LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report Facts April 23, 2015 12:35 PM BST
Oh and btw.   The Tories are evil scum . AngryAngryAngryAngry
Report Dotchinite April 23, 2015 12:40 PM BST
Calm down facts. Life is too short to be so angry and irrational. Maybe you should go and lie down in a dark room.
Report Burton-Brewers April 23, 2015 12:58 PM BST
So many on the left are consumed by hatred for people who disagree with them

oh how true
Report Eeternaloptimist April 23, 2015 1:09 PM BST
To an extent I can understand Facts hatred. Luvvies tend to be irrational over emotional sorts. It's the comments about decency and morals coming from a party which condemned thousands to unspeakably vile abuse up and down the land in the name of community cohesion which no decent person will in good conscience allow to go uncommented on.
Report HH Sultan Vinegar April 23, 2015 1:15 PM BST
No point in starting a new thread - this looks like a likely place!
Hot off the press:

Labour, bringing Third World Corruption to a local authority near you.

Lutfur Rahman found guilty of illegal practices in Tower Hamlets election
.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-32428648
Report Thin and Crispy April 23, 2015 1:27 PM BST
Vote tactically for a coalition. Tories and Labour don't like it so that should be reason enough.
Report History Maker April 23, 2015 3:00 PM BST
Vote tactically for a coalition. Tories and Labour don't like it so that should be reason enough.

I honestly think that the Con - Lib Dem coalition was the least worst result last time around.

I still haven't decided this time.
Report Thin and Crispy April 23, 2015 3:17 PM BST
I always vote for the least worst option.  Coalition govts are here to stay.  Politics has changed and no one party can represent the views of most people.  Labour and Tories don't like this they prefer the cosy traditional tribal arangement.
Report Tallywagger. April 23, 2015 4:31 PM BST
There is nowt more dopey than the tribal Labour voter.
Report dustybin April 23, 2015 5:27 PM BST
There is a saying;
You start off socialist in life and die a capitalist.
Borne from the fact that people tend to have nowt when young but accumulate wealth through life. Start out Labour, end Tory.

I see it somewhat differently.
I simply see it as the greedy small man syndrome voting tory.
Doesn't matter how much I have or will have, Id never vote tory because I see through the insidious nature of protecting their own at the cost of the rest.
Tory voters (in general, not all) tend not to care about their own situation (other than expecting to be free to do as they wish) but take delight in degrading others' lots, simply to make their own wealth seem of more value.
Ponces imo.
Report Pokermonster April 23, 2015 5:33 PM BST
Ponces?  That's rich.

Where you write:

Tory voters (in general, not all) tend not to care about their own situation (other than expecting to be free to do as they wish) but take delight in degrading others' lots, simply to make their own wealth seem of more value.


I believe it would be far more accurate if were you talking about a left-wing view of things.

Report dustybin April 23, 2015 5:46 PM BST
I'm of the belief Pokermonster that all people irrespective of background are infact malevolent by nature.
The poor people arn't virtuous by being poor, give many the chance they will rob you blind, its just in many cases you can see the colours of the tory because they have been given what they wanted.....the chance to cut somebody else's throat
Report Pokermonster April 23, 2015 5:48 PM BST
I'm afraid I disagree again, sir.  I believe most people are benevolent by nature.
Report dustybin April 23, 2015 5:52 PM BST
I can't agree.
If somebody believes they can cheat and get away with it they probably will, the telling factor in the equation is the 'perceived ability to get away with it'
Report dustybin April 23, 2015 5:56 PM BST
There is always a cost to everything.
Take Newton's third law.
For every action there is an equal and opposite re-action.
Do people blind themselves over where their wealth comes from?
Report dustybin April 23, 2015 6:00 PM BST
Of course there is the added complexity of what constitutes 'a fraud, a lie, a cheat' etc.
A moral fraud can be lawful.
Simply because a clique has agreed so, and you had no say in the matter.
So is the act of willfully degrading other people's interests benevolent or malevolent?
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