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Facts
22 Apr 15 07:06
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£6.4 billion !!
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Report mememe April 22, 2015 7:11 AM BST
Epidemic of shoplifting in Liverpool.

Lessons will be learnt.
Report morpteh mackem April 22, 2015 8:17 AM BST
are they the correct figures  or have they made them up again ?
Report rogerthebutler April 22, 2015 8:41 AM BST
morpeth

One more example of why Betfair should have a 'like' button in here!

Good work my friend, rewarded with a Laugh
Report the.mad.dog.man April 22, 2015 8:50 AM BST
some managers been losing till rolls imposable to be 5 billion  tesco not worth that
Report Crisp77 April 22, 2015 8:52 AM BST
Lots of big losses taken on property valuations...and so it begins. Mischief

Huge pension deficit....and so it begins. Mischief
Report Dotchinite April 22, 2015 10:09 AM BST
New managers making billions of writedowns so they can flatter future years figures. The headline figure means nothing at all here.

The really worrying thing for everyone is the pension. How many millions of people in this country have a defined benefit pension that they will never ever collect. Anyone got the latest deficit figures across private companies?  Oh and dont forget the good old Public Sector where there will never be enough to pay the accrued liabilities in the medium or long run.
Report Stow_judge April 22, 2015 10:09 AM BST
Yet the shares are only down ca. 0.3%. Why haven't they tanked? Confused
Report akabula April 22, 2015 10:14 AM BST
Spot on Dotchite.
I was involved in target setting and my boss made sure we included every negative ingredient but wasn't as meticulous with the positives in arriving at our final figures.
A 'good' boss always meets target I was told, with the word good stressed and accompanied by a little smile.
Report i_agree_with_nick April 22, 2015 10:15 AM BST
Shares haven't tanked because as Dot says, most of it's "funny money" ie an accounting write-down.

Also, the market already had expectations of a huge loss and, rightly or wrongly, they believe that the new CE is steadying the ship.
Report Stow_judge April 22, 2015 10:17 AM BST
Have they said anything about potential dividend cuts?
Report i_agree_with_nick April 22, 2015 10:24 AM BST
I dont know but the share price is actually slightly up this atm.

The ability to pay a dividend is dependent on having sufficient cash and bear in mind, a lower share price can result in a higher dividend yield.
Report akabula April 22, 2015 10:30 AM BST
Shares affected when news of the false accounting was revealed and again when the profits warning was given.
Given that there's been nothing said about the dividend I'd expect that to be forthcoming.
Report i_agree_with_nick April 22, 2015 10:36 AM BST
The shares are up 25% this year but down overall by abot 35% over the last two years
Report breadnbutter April 22, 2015 10:46 AM BST
Sounds a bit iffy that 4.7B was property prices being written down ,43 stores which it is about to close ...and sell .

has all their proprty values been written down then ?  or just the ones they are about to punt .

would need to see the previous and current values but abviously this is not what it appears ,they are closing loss making branches imo ....smoke and mirrors
Report boxingthefox April 22, 2015 10:48 AM BST
I'm sure Dame Shirley Porter is crying all the way to the bank.
Report sidthekid April 22, 2015 10:52 AM BST
April 2010 Tesco shares traded at 435.
Today 235.
Report Capt__F April 22, 2015 11:05 AM BST
bit worried about my 42p off next shop coupon
Report The Leopard April 22, 2015 11:05 AM BST
The main reason for Tesco’s loss was a £4.7bn reduction in the value of its property holdings to reflect tough market conditions and declining profits. In total, Tesco took £7bn of one-off charges, more than wiping out a £1.4bn trading profit that was in line with reduced expectations.
Report akabula April 22, 2015 11:08 AM BST
Tesco will show record profits next year and the CEO will receive a record bonus and everyone will be smiling.
I love a story with a happy ending.
Report Capt__F April 22, 2015 11:16 AM BST
phew
Report johnizere April 22, 2015 11:20 AM BST
I'll hang onto my clubcard then, never know, I might pop into one of their stores one day. I've been radicalised to Lidl.
Report CLYDEBANK29 April 22, 2015 12:06 PM BST
New boss comes in...he wants to look good...so he reckons it's...best to start from a poor position...so blame as much as possible on previous management...then...improvements will come...all down to new management = job done.
Report breadnbutter April 22, 2015 12:18 PM BST
close down the high streets ,feed us horse mince ,dodgy accounting and overstating profit ,hole in  pension fund ,property price write downs and close  stores .

every little helps ....
Report i_agree_with_nick April 22, 2015 12:23 PM BST
Indeed, bnb. A shopping trip to Tesco would usually result in a bit of a mare.Plain
Report Money Tree cost me thousands!! April 22, 2015 12:37 PM BST
Will never go bust.
Report Capt__F April 22, 2015 12:38 PM BST
pot kettle
Report mememe April 22, 2015 12:53 PM BST
Old trick.

New management team writes down everything, and I mean everything and presto ...

new team makes profits, treated as heroes and get performance bonuses.

And the numpties in the city always fall for it.
Report breadnbutter April 22, 2015 1:06 PM BST
they have a market cap of 19B

"propert"y write downs of 4.7B sound excessive .....who swallows this crap ?

that will be all costs and more associated with closing 43 stores ,although i stand to be corrected .
Report breadnbutter April 22, 2015 1:12 PM BST

Apr 22, 2015 -- 12:23PM, i_agree_with_nick wrote:


Indeed, bnb. A shopping trip to Tesco would usually result in a bit of a mare.


city still very bullish on the stock ....the  value Bolognaise  and the meatballs

Report Money Tree cost me thousands!! April 22, 2015 1:29 PM BST
I think you have to write down the value of stores if their profits are down too.
Report David Fishwick Minibus Sales April 22, 2015 1:32 PM BST
it's all about the base
Report Money Tree cost me thousands!! April 22, 2015 1:39 PM BST
They still have to find the 5 billion to plug up the pension scheme too
Report breadnbutter April 22, 2015 1:54 PM BST
hope they have  learned their lesson and  don't needlessly take risks and  gamble  ...especially on the horses ...
Report Burton-Brewers April 22, 2015 2:16 PM BST
to lose that much they've been backing your tips MT
Report Ibrahima Sonko April 22, 2015 4:10 PM BST
They made a profit on sales, just more corporate account fiddling.
Report minardi April 22, 2015 4:21 PM BST
MOst of their profit andindeed their whole philosophy was to grind suppliers with very underhand tactics - these have been exposed and without the market share not so easy to implement - this is a long term fault line and wont get better for a while. A lot of costs have already been driven out of the business and they are basically holed beneath the waterline.
Report Jack Hacksaw April 23, 2015 8:25 AM BST
I have noticed it all went downhill for Tesco since stemac disappeared.
Report Big_Issue April 23, 2015 8:52 AM BST
It's just accounting, the numbers are meaningless, probably just a way of avoiding Corporation Tax while the Govt subsidises it's low paid workforce through Family Tax Credits and Housing Benefits
Report mememe April 23, 2015 1:35 PM BST
Just a thought and does anybody know ...

But what happened about the horsemeat dcandal - no prosecutions although I seem to recall that a Govt Minister said at the time that criminal charges would follow.

Anybody know?
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