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13 Apr 15
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Do you know anyone that gives a damn about the deficit and will voting depending upon which party put across the best case for reducing it? I don't so why do they keep banging on about it? it's a vote winner for absolutely nobody 
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I wont vote caus I cant afford a cab up there & dont want to live wiv the deficit
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its a load of old bollox. Like running government is same as budgeting households
. No one ever say why should they balance budget when few governments ever do and they can also print money or borrow for next to nothing. Like if some major infrastructure needed repairing any government is going to go, no sorry we will just leave it undone till after next election as we want a balanced budget  |
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I've never voted once in my life
I turn the telly over in disgust whenever politicians , the budget or the defecit are mentioned  These slimey Pricks don't even believe each other so what fkn chance have we got  |
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We can't keep buying our way out of trouble so reducing the deficit is important.
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dont you think, debt as % of gdp would be the better measure than dogmatic no deficit?
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Must be an infinite amount of money in the country
otherwise where would all the money come from if we all sold our house's tomorrow |
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"Do you know anyone that gives a damn about the deficit and will voting depending upon which party put across the best case for reducing it?"
I care. "I don't so why do they keep banging on about it?" Because you are not 64 million people, what a silly thing to say. "it's a vote winner for absolutely nobody" You are not 64 million people, what a silly thing to say. I think we should have intelligence tests before people are allowed to vote, exhibit A: This thread. |
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akabula it doesn't matter how important the deficit is the point is the general public couldn't give a rats backside about it and wont be casting their vote based upon it, it wont even register, also the deficit is irrelevant when we keep borrowing x amount of money, whole economy is floating on a sea of debt no matter how much the deficit will be reduced.
Working classes are bothered by immigration Middle classes are interested in which party will be good for their bank balance Imports over export costs are a massive red herring, just one way of blithering on and on to waste time and deviate away from what really matters and avoid to talking about it. |
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Do you know anyone that gives a damn about the deficit and will voting depending upon which party put across the best case for reducing it? I don't so why do they keep banging on about it?
Tbf, Ed Miliband didn't mention the deficit in his speech at the party conference  |
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The money doesn't exist wit-ham
Which is why we're left to fight for it between ourselves Seriously .. Why do you care Just checking  The defecit's so Huge it won't make one bit of difference whoever's elected they're all as thick & greedy as pigsh!t |
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@scandhaven
I beg to differ. If we kept adding to the deficit we would be in real trouble eventually. I want to hear what each party is doing in terms of the deficit, immigration, spending (especially on the NHS) and taxation. |
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yes that's my point Mc Moonbeam
so who do we owe this deficit to as that money probably don't exist either |
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I'd love absolutely nobody to turn up to vote , maybe just a couple hundred kn0bs across the entire country
What power would the have then  |
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I care because I have a reasonable grasp of the big picture and I don't want the UK to go the way of greece.
FFS by looks of things ("Imports over export costs") some people think the deficit and balance of trade are the same thing, I'm guessing half the people who say they don't care about the deficit are the sort of people who'd say we should just print piles of money and we'll all be rich. |
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we would be in real trouble eventually
we already are  |
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When in a hole, stop digging.
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the hole is debt as % of gdp. Greece i think is heading for budget surplus, not going to help them 1 bit
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McM
Go back 50 years to the 60s and compare living standards then and now. In any of the housing schemes you'd be hard pushed to find one car owner per street then. Now the streets are lined with cars. One or two houses had telephones. Now Ma Pa and the kids all have mobiles. Not everyone had a tv. Now it's a cvase of one in each bedroom etc etc. I could go on and on. So if we are in trouble now God knows what we were in then. |
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Apart from reducing their deficit.
You guys do realise that deficit means increasing debt, and debt even if it's not paid off requires interest to be pissed away by taxpayers just to service it? And if debt gets unservicable a country is basically bankrupt? |
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Ig's frightening that I think people on this thread aren't trolling, no wonder people vote for the Greens or the SNP.
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so who do we owe this deficit to
Those who buy Government bonds, so mainly financial institutions such as pension funds, investment funds etc but also the general public |
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Then you are in a very tiny minority akabula, do you really think most people have bothered to read all the parties manifesto essay's, weigh everything up and make a decision? I doubt you've read all 83 pages of labour's for example (20,421 words long) votes will be cast mostly based on one of two things, 1) a tactical vote and 2) one big issue i.e taxation, immigration, we both know for most people it's that simple
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." Winston Churchill |
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It makes sense now. ... "Forgive them for the know not what they do."
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"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter."
Winston Churchill --- I agree with this completely, but I think WC was meaning you when he said it! |
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It's clearly obvious that when it comes down to voting, next to nobody will be considering which party is the best party to sort the deficit out, vast majority will quite frankly not give a s*** when in the voting booth, as said in my last post, if you think they will then you probably need to get out a bit more
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I think most people want some reassurance regarding the deficit even if they don't fully understand it.
I personally don't want to read the nuts and bolts of everything but I do want a basic understanding of each parties approach to most things. I'm surprised that more weren't put off voting for independence for instance given Salmond's inability to give a costing for anything. A trait that Nicola has taken up btw. "Don't worry about that or that or that, it'll be okay" Well unfortunately I do worry and I want to know that policies have been fully costed. |
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I'm amazed the predicted SNP vote is going up, considering Scotland's deficit (significantly worse than the UK), but maybe this thread explains that!
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electrical gadgets don't equal standard of living Aka
you'd have to offset that against things like crime , mental health , community breakdown , losing the country we live in to outsiders , the list goes on & on ... |
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both major parties will reduce deficit, one budget deficit, one overall deficit. Not going to matter to average voter who wont know the difference.
Institute for Fiscal Studies director Paul Johnson: "They (labour) are committed to getting a current budget balance - a current budget surplus - by the end of the parliament. That's an entirely credible fiscal policy. 2 sensible fiscal policies, the deciding factor for voters wont be "the deficit" imo, agree those who think it will be need to get out more |
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Those who buy Government bonds, so mainly financial institutions such as pension funds, investment funds etc but also the general public
So in other words .. they actually owe Us |
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Keep voting like good little puppets !!!
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Are you Russell Brand?
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The majority is owed to Pension funds & we all know what's gonna happen to them , this is also why the big FTSE companies aren't allowed to fail
Where did that Oil slump go again |
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Loads of voters will vote for who they've always voted for which is probably the party that their parents voted for. I think we all know that.
But I'm talking about the people who are actually interested in the future of the country which I would have thought was a considerable number. Although after reading some of the thoughts on here I'm not too sure. In fact I'm depressed.  |
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What's going to happen to the pension funds McM?
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Just Checking is deluded beyond words, what kind of airy fairy world do you live in
On planet Earth, most voters are people who have very little interest in politics, you only have to see the turn out at in by-elections to see that, and they know even less about policies or even the names of key party members, but will turn up once every 5 years for the big one. This is a fact. |
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Well that's because it's depressing
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Couldn't give a t0ss about this country , the level of greed & corruption sickens me every day
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Why am I deluded?
I said that I agreed with: "The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.". Ok a bit tongue in cheek but I can see where he got that from. You don't even need to have the conversation, reading posts on the internet really just makes you want to face-palm. |