Shetland pony battered to death

i was just reading a similar story in the daily mirror, about a horse having to be put down after being slashed with a knife. !!!

its scary to think what people are walking the streets....

Most animal abusers are teenagers, and it's the school holidays. That's where I'd start my investigation.

This is obviously appalling, but I am struggling with the veracity of the background - are you sure you got this right, Kenny? -assume you just cut and pasted it? - Can it really be a 17 month old epileptic toddler who grooms her horse every day.  Just wondering.

Does that really matter, blackbarn? I think it's perfectly possible that she does this, with assistance.

this is shocking stuff, obviously far worse than humans being slaughtered in the name of islam iko

Of course it's not far worse, but maybe worth a mention?

of course it is kenny, but don't explode over it... we would miss you on here 

*it's not

ffs

No I guess not. I was merely musing as to whether.....

1. you had embellished the story for effect, or had simply quoted the article accurately, or...
2. the original article had been embellished for dramatic effect by the original publishers, or...
3. the original article was correct in every detail.

It's the kind of mindless story which is so horrible I would rather not read it in a paper.
Almost feel I don't need to be reminded such pointless barbarism is on our streets.

2) the daily mail will take every opportunity to sensationalise...  language is everything, and readers tend not to analyse it too closely in my experience

It's sickening Kenny. People who can do this to animals are psychopaths and can do the same to people. They need to be found and locked up.

Ah, I can go to sleep smiling. The pony is alive and well, or maybe died of a heart attack.

Thanks all. I feel much better now, glad I raised the subject.

The main problem, foinavon is apathy, as demonstrated on here, particularly by blackbarn, who seems to treat all reports of animal abuse as trivial.

A lot of country folk see animals as commodities and can't afford to get sentimental about them.

Yes, I suppose that's correct.

Brutal attacks like this though are evil and are aimed to cause the maximum gratuitous suffering. To me there is no difference in doing this and beating up a helpless pensioner. No excuses for these monsters.

This could be a good debate, if Kenny can remain objective!!  Here is a start, as a farmer and a country boy, I do regard some animals as commodities - ie meat - pure and simple. I do not condone animal cruelty nor do i treat any examples of abuse as trivial.

I'm going to be following this case. I've taken the phone number. I want to see what sentence is passed.

I'll put it on here for safe keeping.

An RSPCA spokeswoman said: 'This sounds like an incredibly upsetting incident.
'We would urge anyone with any information to contact either the police or ourselves on 0300 123 8018.

Pleased to hear that Blackbarn.

Kenny, so where are you on the "animals as commodities" front.  You'll be agin it , I guess.

I know that, blackbarn, you've told me before. Why then do you mention the 17 month old girl grooming the pony as that is irrelevant imo, or are you having a go at the Dily Mail?

I don't eat meat if that answers your question and I'm not at all happy with factory farming.

i'VE NO PROBLEM WITH ANIMALS AS COMMODITIES AS LONG AS THEY ARE TREATED WELL DURING THEIR LIFETIME, AND KILLED HUMANELY.

sorry caps.

Agreed with Kenny. I don't eat meat but I never preach to people who do. You are responsible for walking to the sound of your own drum. I'd like animals to be treated humanely if people then subsequently wish to eat them but that is a world away from stoving what are loving and intelligent animals heads in with breeze blocks. I struggle to see how you can look such an animal in the eye and see that trust and love in their eyes and then commit such an atrocity. That connection between man and horse isn't far ff the link between man and dog. I'm not really sure there is any redemption for such an individual. Psychopathy isn't putting it too strongly in my view.

Which I think reads a bit lovey and drippy and new agey but in truth put me in a room with a person who can behave in this way and I'll happily see who walks out. Psychopath or not.

Thanks Eeternal, must hit the hay for now. Knackerd. Was up at 6 feeding 3 noisy cats.

looks like a mafia job.

though possibly one of the islamic states...

I really do hope they find the person who committed such a gross act on a defenceless animal.

People who are cruel to animals rarely stop there. The FBI has found that a history of cruelty to animals is one of the traits that regularly appear in its computer records of serial rapists and murderers.

An even better stat is that most if not all  serial killers/murderers/rapists were abused in child hood ,either physical ,mental or sexual .

The abused turn into abusers ,the link between animal cruelty and these people is a symptom not a cause imo.

Smashing a pony's head in with a breeze block sounds a bit more than animal cruelty/abuse ,sounds  more like a  revenge or a hate crime imo against the owners rather than  an attack/killing of a defenseless animal ,does not sound like kids but nothing surprises these days.

Whoever it was and for whatever the reason one things for sure they are an evil cant.
Was a case in the courts in Scotland this week of someone who had 130 pets, rabbits mice and rats.
Not sure how the RSPCA got involved but the pets were being kept in appalling conditions with no water or food.
Some were already dead whilst others were paralysed and suffering and not far from death.
The report ended by saying they expect him to receive a banning order from keeping pets.
And that's the problem in this country. Not even the courts take animal cruelty seriously.

They would if you lobbed a piglet into your local mosque.

I always remember the outcome of 2 cases on the same day either last year or the year before.
...... fined £50 for burning poppies and shouting kill all soldiers.
..... ... jailed for nailing a pigs head to the door of a mosque.
No prizes for filling in the dots.

There are some people born just pure evil on this earth. I accept the points made on here about those people  who are abused as children, and therefore might feel they are getting their own back by being cruel to an animal because they are weaker than them.  And the poor animals can't talk, that's the advantage people have over them.

Aka the case you mention sounds like an animal collector ,a hoarder type ,a kind of mental disorder but doubt they collected up the pets with the intention of  torturing or abusing imo ,unable to cope and allowed suffering to happen but hardly the initial intention ,the rspca are a bunch of nazi's .Mice,rabbits  and rats whilst a living creature and deserving of some sort of protection (not if they are wild ,trapped and  poisoned as pests) should not be given more rights than humans ,world is full of humans living in squalor and this lot are more interested in mice and rats and rabbits.

appaling conditions with no food or water ...they would be dead if that was the truth ,perhaps not a free supply of water on the day in question but these cases as mentioned always involve strange types ,who often struggle to look after themselves ...sad really .

If you listen to the rspca animal cruelty is endemic ,cruel evil people going out there way to enjoy harming animals ,its seldom the case the propaganda this organisation puts out is sickening .

Obviously any person who willfully harms a pet or does a despicable act like the one mentioned by the OP needs locking up ,goes without saying .

It was a lack of water and food that had led to the deaths with others not far behind.
Obviously some of the animals did receive nourishment although all pets were either as described or sincerely emaciated.
Hard to understand how anyone could put any animal through such suffering unless they have mental issues.
If not I'd jail this guy. Have you had a run in with the RSPCA cos I've dealt with them a few times in the past and found them okay.

The RSPCA destroys nearly half the animals it ‘rescues’ each year, with thousands being put down for non-medical reasons, shocking figures obtained by The Mail on Sunday reveal.
The animal-welfare charity destroyed 53,000 animals last year – 44 per cent of those it took in – leading critics to claim that the organisation spends too much time on prosecuting cases of neglect and cruelty and not enough on finding new homes for animals.
The charity insists the vast majority of the animals were put down to end their suffering, but it admits that last year alone 3,400 animals were destroyed for ‘non-medical’ reasons, such as the lack of space in kennels and catteries.

The RSPCA insists that euthanising animals is always a ‘last resort’, but a Mail on Sunday investigation has unearthed others criticising the charity’s approach.
Kent vet David Smith, who worked for the organisation for 12 years, said: ‘It seems to be all about prosecuting people now.
‘The RSPCA seems to have lost sight of its role as a charity that was set up to help people and animals.’
In the past two years, convictions secured by the charity have increased from 2,579 to 3,114. Last year, spinster Georgina Langley, 67, of West Hougham, Kent, was raided at her home by the RSPCA and had five of her 13 cats put down.
The charity prosecuted her for neglect, but Mr Smith, 62, came to her aid. After sending two of the cats’ bodies to the Royal Veterinary College (RVC) for an independent post-mortem, he said: ‘There appears to be no good reason why the RSPCA allowed these animals to be put to sleep.
‘The RVC post-mortems concluded the cats were healthy, with no signs of incorrect feeding or major problems with fleas or other illnesses.
‘They were very heavy-handed with an elderly lady and kept her standing out in her garden in the rain for hours while they searched her house.
All the cats required was some flea spray. When I started doing work for them, the inspectors rarely prosecuted people – it was mostly about helping people to care for the animals. They would go and check on OAPs  and make sure they have flea treatment etc, and that just never happens these days.
‘They always seem to want to go for prosecution, no matter what, and I hear the same story from other vets.’
Following a three-day trial in May 2012, the RSPCA dropped 11 of the 13 charges against Miss Langley.
She pleaded guilty to failing to get veterinary care quickly enough for two of her animals. An RSPCA spokesperson said: ‘Five of the cats were put to sleep on veterinary advice. The reason we had to get these cats out of the property is  that the conditions they were in were appalling.’
Another former RSPCA employee, Angela Egan-Ravenscroft, shared Ms Aubrey-Ward’s misgivings about the RSPCA.



The Countryside Alliance has called on the RSPCA to lose its Royal name, after the charity prosecuted the Heythrop hunt, pictured here on Boxing Day, for illegally killing foxes
Ms Egan-Ravenscroft was branch co-ordinator for the RSPCA London region between 1990 and 2000. Disillusioned with the way the charity was being run, she left and went to work for the Countryside Alliance.
She said: ‘Healthy, well-adjusted, rehomeable animals were being destroyed, and I didn’t want to be part of an organisation that did that.
‘The RSPCA has badly lost its way and all of its reasons for being set up in the first place have been subverted. The grass-roots animal welfare no longer exists.’
A spokesperson for the RSPCA said: ‘It is simply not true that the RSPCA routinely puts down healthy animals.
‘We do need to put animals to sleep when it is in their interests.
‘Nobody who works for the RSPCA wants to have to put rehomeable animals to sleep but it is a sad reality of the work that we do.
‘Although the trend is in decline, the RSPCA sometimes has to put some rehomeable animals to sleep simply because they cannot be found good homes.’
Not all organisations feel that it necessary to destroy healthy animals, however.
Dogs Trust, for example, still takes in strays, but refuses to euthanise healthy animals.





COUNTRYSIDE ALLIANCE: 'CHARITY SHOULD LOSE RIGHT TO CALL ITSELF ROYAL'





The RSPCA has become a ‘politically motivated animal rights organisation’ and should be stripped of its Royal name, according to Sir Barney White-Spunner, head of the Countryside Alliance.
He spoke out after the Heythrop, David Cameron’s local hunt in Oxfordshire, was convicted of illegally killing foxes after a private prosecution brought by the RSPCA.
The case cost the RSPCA almost £327,000 which the judge said was ‘staggering’ and suggested ‘members of the public may feel RSPCA funds can be more usefully employed’.
Sir Barney said: ‘Why is this Society still Royal? I don’t want to involve the Royal Family, but I will raise it with the relevant committee in Whitehall.
‘It was once a great institution. But the direction it’s going is very sad. The RSPCA is becoming a politically motivated animal rights organisation and I don’t think that’s why people give it money. We will look to the Charity Commission to investigate if the RSPCA is in breach of its charitable objectives.’
The RSPCA said: ‘The RSPCA and its trustees have acted entirely within the society’s charitable objectives and procedures and Charity Law.’

RSPCA whistleblower claims she was forced to put down fit pets during her time with charity
A former RSPCA inspector claims the charity is killing more healthy animals than necessary by branding them ‘unsuitable for rehoming’.
Speaking exclusively to The Mail on Sunday, Dawn Aubrey-Ward says she was forced to put down many healthy pets during her two years with the organisation.
Ms Aubrey-Ward claimed large numbers of animals, particularly dogs, were put to sleep after being classed ‘unsuitable for rehoming’, but that the definition could be widely drawn to often include older animals, those needing veterinary care, dogs deemed ‘aggressive’ or larger dogs which were ‘hard to home’.

Proud: Dawn Aubrey-Ward receives an RSPCA award for rescuing a lamb. She has accused the charity of killing animals that are fit and healthy

The RSPCA strenuously denies Ms Aubrey-Ward’s claims, describing her as a ‘disgruntled former employee’.
Ms Aubrey-Ward, 44, a divorced mother of four from Martock, Somerset, joined the RSPCA as a trainee inspector in 2007. But she soon found herself at odds with what she described as its ‘antiquated military-style’ regime which placed ‘prosecution and persecution’ of owners ahead of protection of their pets.
Ms Aubrey-Ward went on: ‘The RSPCA’s image was that they care for animals, prevent cruelty and help and advise people with animals. I was horrified when I learned we were going to have to put down healthy animals because we didn’t have room for them. It didn’t fit with their public image.’
She won an award from the RSPCA for her part in the rescue of a lamb and received glowing reports for her good work. But when she began to question the practice of putting healthy animals to sleep, she says she found her job was at risk.
‘If there wasn’t any room in the nearby RSPCA home or one of a number of approved charities, we were supposed to euthanise them,’ she said.
Early in her training, Ms Aubrey-Ward says, she saw a young rottweiler put into an RSPCA van for a check-up.
‘The dog, which was surely frightened, growled at the inspector with me. The other inspector said, “That’s it – this is an aggressive dog.” It was put down soon afterwards.’
Later, she rescued a heavily pregnant ‘staffie’ bitch from a cruel owner, along with an aggressive male dog. ‘With some TLC in a nice kennels, and someone to work on her behaviour, she would have been OK. The dog warden and I tried hard to find a space for her but we couldn’t,’ she said.



Caring: Dawn Aubrey-Ward

‘The warden took the dogs to RPSCA Hillingdon, where a vet said they should be put to sleep if nowhere could be found for them, and they were killed round the back. The dog warden noosed them and I shot them.’
Ms Aubrey-Ward said she was reprimanded for giving help and advice instead of issuing cautions, including the case of an ill, elderly man whose cat lay dying on his lap.
She took the cat away and put it down and was then upbraided for not cautioning the cat’s devastated owner for neglect.
SHE said: ‘The RSPCA won’t work with people – they see every case as a chance to prosecute, to generate publicity  for themselves.’
Her career with the RSPCA ended when her bosses accused her of ‘stealing’ a rescued tortoise which she’d taken home ready to take to an animal centre.
Eventually, after a year of negotiations, she resigned, suffering a mental breakdown and a wrecked marriage, partly caused, she said, by her being posted away from home for long spells.
An RSPCA spokeswoman said: ‘Animals in our care are never routinely euthanised on the spot, and certainly not because there are no spaces. Our inspectors regularly go out of their way to find a place many miles away. Over 70 per cent of “on the spot” euthanasia of animal casualties the RSPCA is called out to deal with involve wildlife.
‘RSPCA inspectors are not allowed to use euthanasia drugs on companion animals. They are taken to a veterinary surgeon, who makes an expert assessment.
‘Prosecution is always a last resort. Only a small percentage of the cases the RSPCA investigates end in prosecution.’
The RSPCA’s chief vet Dr James Yeates said: ‘We rehome thousands of animals, but we cannot keep up.
‘So we do the best thing in a  bad situation, and sometimes  this means having to put to  sleep rehomable dogs, cats  and rabbits.’
The RSPCA added: ‘Dawn Aubrey-Ward is a disgruntled former employee who was subject to a disciplinary investigation for alleged theft of animals. She left with matters  still pending.’

Lets just hope a few more 'disgruntled former employees' come forward and blow the whistle on what's really going on at the EVIL RSPCA.  How many animals have suffered in their care. They are an utter disgrace and should face prosecution for fraud and cruelty under the Animal Welfare Act.

By NICK CRAVEN and LYNNE WALLIS

That casts a different light on them from the one I saw them in. That's brutal to say the least.
I've only ever dealt with them 3 times. Two were when when I came across a cat and a deer who had been hit  by cars and were very badly injured.
The only other time was when I reported someone who had Aylesbury ducks and one was badly suffering as gangrene had obviously set in on one of it's feet and the keeper ignored it.
In each case I was impressed by the speed in which they acted but after reading your post I was maybe lucky that I came across some of their better workers.