Does the UK need this scum.

Thanks for this thread.

I think many thought at least one of the families had a case to answer but this is truly incredible.

Headline news on the Beeb and Sky surely??

Box there is a story about a  penny dropping & some poor soul seeing  it weeks after everyone else  spotted it

Ibrahima Sonko   
28 Mar 15 19:35 
Has this news story made it to the bbc website ?

I doubt it very much.

There's a report on the BBC Sussex television news text pages, about 4 men convicted of child prostitution. Their ethnicity isn't mentioned.
So I had a google moment...as you do....1.01 landed.

Last week, when a UKIP story broke of alleged expenses fiddles, despite the fact Farage sacked her, the BBC stuck it on 8 different counties om their news pages, so that all those down south could read it.

I find it odd that the Newhaven news item only appears on the Sussex page.

(See that Wesdag, Newhaven has a similar name to Newham)

in fairness to BOX, i have already stated i read the story in the daily mirror and it was so small it would easily have been missed.

and i have heard nothing on tv or radio . !!! someone somewhere didnt want the story making the headlines...where it should be.

Thanks for the updates cmug.

Say hello to your sister.

time to toughen up

Who is cmug?

Dunno but I am Sol Campbell.

back to the post, A scumbag, western hating leeching parasite who will find justification for his contradictory behaviour as a tenet of the koran (small k deliberate) to suit his manipulations of our useless hand wringing liberal, self obsessed career politician led country, wtf did all those men in the World wars die for, certainly not so we should kowtow to every third world parasite who lands on our shores,
The good news is the worm is slowly turning and within 2 years open discussion of the perverse versions of islam  and its prophet will be common discussion. nap

GLASGOWCALLING your succient posts were not missed, unrelated to the thread, sadly wesfag has an agenda, that has taken him over poor sod.

Pumpy I know you had him/her/it sussed from the start, the penny has long been spent in his/her/its case.

What has pumpy got sussed, I want to know.

Not sure what the bigger story is...the fact he was at that demo and clearly influenced his daughter OR...

The fact the politicians and media declared the families not guilty immediately, then paraded them like heroes of peace before MPs and then the silence over the truth???

The problem is that England is like a vacuum, it lacks an identity.

That's why Islamic extremism will continue to fester in England because it is not competing with a single coherent identity.

Damn well said..

Shhhhhhhuuuuuusssssshhh spellin, we don't want to wake up wesfag, we want him to carry on living in his twisted pollyanna world where everything fits his perverted, naive, liberal coated, flowery version of reality. Now watch him try to regain some credibility, as shown in his 19.59 post. Tooooooooooo facken late.!!!!!

What is required is more coherent analysis rather than just a trotting out of endless stats and anecdotes.

Wesdag   






  28 Mar 15 21:59 
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The problem is that England is like a vacuum, it lacks an identity.

That's why Islamic extremism will continue to fester in England because it is not competing with a single coherent identity.


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Problem is its not extremism now it has become just standard. Trying to take over via what ever means.

Look at that warasi bird gives it all smiles and niceties but is as radicalised as any of them, excuses excuses excuses.

So wesfag are you now going to stop infecting good threads with your obsession with another poster (with a made up name, just like yours and mine) on this anonymous forum, and contribute honestly. ?????? or are you going to continue to weaken your own opinions??? with your stupid puerile obsession.?

BTW your 10.10 post is excellent

What you mean like signing pointless petitions over and over again?

I've been trying to drag you away from such nonsense without success.

UK have an identity but for some reason the elite are selling it off to any bidders.

Ta Boxing.

Wes that is just forum fun/nonsense ffs, read between the lines, you might be pleasantly surprised by what you find.

just searchd warasi news, the first 4 on the search were bbc. ffs

signed

wrong thread

Fair enough Wesdag, lets put this to bed otherwise I will be guilty of the very things I said above. CMAT Spellning, etc need no help from me, and your posts on this subject on various threads, are not so different from mine, not that I am not willing to hear and argue and listen to those opinions. Good luck.

As far as England is concerned there are very few cultural traditions that now exist that unify and bring the nation together on a regular basis.

The result is, others feel alienated/indifferent because what is the culture that exists here?

Indeed, put to bed.

England has been sleep walking into a "multicultural nightmare" because there is no place in the world where a cohesive society has absorbed an influx of foreign/different/opposite cultures and religions in such great numbers without disastrous consequences.

in this country it has allowed the poverty gap to fall into an abyss, and the richer (controlling) elite to prosper. How in  a modern Britain is it possible to have a ZERO HOURS contract of employment, where an employee doesn't know from one week to the next if a person will earn a decent weeks wages to sustain a half decent living.

For half decent wage.................fill in the gaps yourselves.

boxingthefox    28 Mar 15 22:46 
England has been sleep walking into a "multicultural nightmare" because there is no place in the world where a cohesive society has absorbed an influx of foreign/different/opposite cultures and religions in such great numbers without disastrous consequences.

Not exactly foxy.

Only parts of England are affected by this influx, mainly the big cities and crappy towns. 

Thousands of villages where there are no council houses or private houses to rent, have no immigrants at all in their local population, whether they be black, asian or eastern european.

Those that live out in the sticks in these villages, but have never lived in places like east London, Bradford, Luton etc, don't give a fack about immigration, islam, or radicalisation in schools, as it doesn't affect them or their children.

There are a lot issues here boxing.

Multiculturalism, melting pot or call it what you like is not the main problem imo.

The problem arises when the host nation does not have a dominant culture which it is proud of and celebrates and around which the whole nation can rally.

They're scared to. No eggshells have been broken in Parliament for eons..

some village schools are sent on racial awarness trips i kid u not

Spelling, I have travelled most of the UK recently, most market towns are changed beyond belief, the towns south of London right down to the coast have largely escaped because of fiscal implications, in other words they are financially secure, just like the northern Thames valley in Gerrards cross, the Cotswolds etc etc, just to mention a few "rich bastions". but for the greater part of the country they have been abandoned by the cackling masses, who neither know or care beyond their own doorstep, and can't comprehend their own downfall.

That's the nub of the issue g2d.

A very cosy establishment that has taken advantage of an antiquated system of government.

Wes, you are of course correct, in global terms we have been a dying empire, for 50 years more than we should have been. We have been carrying a perverse idea of of our place in the world, blaming ourselves from a "today perspective" about yesterdays issues. The Commonwealth came home to roost in the late 50s /60s and its all been downhill ever since.


Wes its probably an impossible expectation that the dominant culture will prevail when it has been so quickly diluted, and imported attitudes/rules /laws  from our European masters cast us as racist xenophobic has beens that our children reject us out of hand without realising what exactly what they are buying in to.

Sorry that's not very succinct, I'm on holiday and have been having some happy juice, cheers, hic.

Agreed.

England is rooted in the past and is dying on it's feet.
That's why it is frustrating seeing the usual suspects on here forever stating the obvious symptoms.

Wes, I'm off to bed now, the frightening  thing is that your vote and mine is competing with the Millions of unworldly and worse still idealistic "scholars" who can outweigh us  in certain marginals. How the fck do we deal with the young and stupid
Who can vote for the looney parties. . GN and GL

Only parts of England are affected by this influx, mainly the big cities and crappy towns. 

Thousands of villages where there are no council houses or private houses to rent, have no immigrants at all in their local population, whether they be black, asian or eastern european.

Those that live out in the sticks in these villages, but have never lived in places like east London, Bradford, Luton etc, don't give a fack about immigration, islam, or radicalisation in schools, as it doesn't affect them or their children.


That's a bit narrow minded of you tbh
The way we're going in future it'll be all the rich Asians living out in the countryside saying 'who gives a t0ss about those white scumbags'

Absolutely astounded this hasn't made headline news..hardly a peep anywhere.I intend to put that right by phoning into LBC in the morning..lets see what Nick Ferrai has to say!

Well i for one am not in the slightest astounded..

No-one amongst the ordinary British public is remotely astonished by the development. The huge surprise is that it hasn't been exposed before. I would have assumed that the gentleman concerned was already on Security/Police radar (given the existence of the photographs), and that someone would have had a word in the ear of politicians and media when the runaways took off.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3016657/FIFTH-girl-London-school-tri...

Difficult one here, who do we deport first.

A) The Gang.

B) The social worker bosses that insist on discretion.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/you/article-3009856/My-daughter-sexually-abused-listened-mother-tells-story.html

Tolerant, tolerant, tolerance. How many times do media/politicians come out with the word tolerant?

When did the definition of tolerance become - 'To sit back & do nothing as others take the p1ss'?

Tolerance must be shown to this intolerant group. Makes sense.

twizzle22    29 Mar 15 11:17 
Absolutely astounded this hasn't made headline news..hardly a peep anywhere.I intend to put that right by phoning into LBC in the morning..lets see what Nick Ferrai has to say!

God man that twizzle.

Good as well.

Good as well.

Too good it would seem

Phone jockey " LBC radio , how can i help"?
Me..I'm not sure if you are aware of the story which broke over the weekend concerning the father of one of the Muslim schoolgirls who was caught on film  protesting against the Americans in 2012.On that protest was Micheal Adebolajo, who as you probably are aware, is in prison for the murder of Lee Rigby and Mr Hussen is clearly seen acting in an aggressive and prov active manner standing next to Adebolajo.

LBC..Could you please hang on one moment

I hang on for approximately 7 mins and then, surprise, surprise....the phone goes dead .It appears they are more interested in the over hyped beyond belief Jeremy Clarkson story

Nice try twizzle,
Unfortunately the Gritish media seems afraid to even mention events and stories like this, we really are led by a completely gutless establishment, will be all too easy to introduce sharia law here inside the next 20-30 years.

The media will be busy bombarding the naive with items galore about tory/lab/lib, a pointless exercise as the politicians standing for parliament will have no influence on the big decisions, the one`s traditionally made by buisinessmen and lawyers.

Hard luck twizle

It's one way traffic in this country. A fear of upsetting some no matter how vile they act.

fack off you northern bassa.

well done for trying TWIZZLE, something strange going on as the storys not got a mention anywhere.

spelling

It's not being mentioned because the Met don't want everyone else (besides the enlightened) to know what utter mindboggingly embarrassing fukwits they all are..

Have to imagine that the kind of vermin that appear in the photo`s, would probably hope to see this type of injustice introduced to the UK in the coming years.

Continued silence from sections of the media and politicians make this a distict possibility.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3017800/Sickening-images-blindfolded-bound-couple-brutally-stoned-death-fornication-ISIS-militants-Iraq.html

Shocking images on that link clough. Bad enough the militants doing the deed but the images of the others watching is sickening.
Vile people with vile standards and all in the name of their Allah. And to think we've apologised to this piece of scum.

Not sensible peeps, Aka. Just the Met..

akabula   
31 Mar 15 01:22 
Shocking images on that link clough. Bad enough the militants doing the deed but the images of the others watching is sickening.
Vile people with vile standards and all in the name of their Allah. And to think we've apologised to this piece of scum.

I most certainly have not.

twizzle22     30 Mar 15 07:59 

I hang on for approximately 7 mins and then, surprise, surprise....the phone goes dead .It appears they are more interested in the over hyped beyond belief Jeremy Clarkson story

Ironic that most of the people on this thread voiced their support for Clarkson.

I would surmise that their point is that Clarkson has been rightfully sacked for punching a work colleague, and not for racism.

Something that the seething Special Needs One has yet to grasp.

Look at the what BBC were guilty of covering up with Jimmy Savill and others, or ignoring, like Diane Abbott, then wonder why there was so much fuss over somebody getting punched.

He was sacked for it.

End of story.

wrong thread.

Changed my mind.
Correct thread.

Changed my mind.
Correct thread.

End of story

Not on LBC, apparently. I wouldn't know, I've got Radio 6 on. Thanks BBC!

I don't listen to any radio station.

It's very quiet in this room, I like it that way.

"Although he had originally thought he had been on the work placement in Birmingham, he now thinks he must have 'gone on holiday to Turkey and got too close to the border", the MEN reports.

The headline of the thread applies to this family in particular, no wonder the flag of Pakistan flies proudly over Rochdale council HQ.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3022714/Pictured-British-children-detained-five-adults-Turkish-border-trying-cross-Syria-join-ISIS.html

The luvvies like these people.

islam is everywhere and is going to be everywhere
prepare to reap what you have allowed in

...." a good muslim, with british values "............

Let me guess, the people arrested "couldn't possibly be terrorists". After all they (a) love their Mum, (b) wear Western clothes © eat Fish and Chips, (d) love Cricket, and especially (e) watch "3-2-1 With Dusty Bin and Ted Rogers".

Just like the 7/7 suicide bombers did.  I personally think (e) radicalised them and pushed them over the edge.

look - they are already in positions of influence and power

why do you think editorial decicions are  are made to exclude bad stories

they are in the labour party - deeply already

they control enclaves in some towns and cities

check who writes for the guardian but more importantly ,  their histor and what they think


you have no idea how deep in the doo doo you are

a good muslim opposes western values  it is really quite simple

About time this had another airing...

The good Muslim.
Good meaning true believers—those who follow the teachings of Mohammed the Quran and the Sunnah to the letter, who try to emulate him in every way and are strict and pious Muslims. Since the teachings and examples of Muhammad are full of violence and terror the more one follows and emulates him the more radical one becomes. Muhammad raided and butchered people simply because they were not his followers. Good Muslims do the same. All the bombings and terrorism by Muslims are replicas of Mohammed's raids, or ghazwa, as he called them. Taking women as sex slaves, which the Islamic State and Boko Haram practice was also carried out by Muhammad and he sanctioned it in the Koran (33:50; 23: 1-6; 70:30; 4:24; 66:1-2). He ordered the assassination of his critics, stoning the adulterers, chopping off the hands of thieves and killing the Apostates. So, what we call terrorists are actually good Muslims.

The Bad Muslim.
These are Muslims who don’t practice their religion and are often ignorant of it. They may pray or chant the Koran, but they have no clue of its contents. They read it for thawab (reward) without understanding it. These Muslims are ordinary people we all know. Like everybody else, some are good and some are not so good. Some are friendly, but they see themselves as superior, by virtue of their faith, and of “higher morals.”

Morality in Islam is primarily about genitals and their use. For example, while having sex out of marriage is considered immoral, stoning people caught in such act is not immoral. While looking at bare arms and legs of Muslim women is considered immoral, raping non-Muslim women is not immoral. Homosexuality is immoral, but pedophilia is not.

These Muslims migrate to the west to better their lives, but they segregate themselves, form isolated communities and warn their children to not learn the ways of unbelievers or take them as friends unless they intent to convert them to Islam. They give huge amounts of money to charity. But Islamic charity has nothing to do with charity. All that money goes to build mosques, print Islamic materials and promote Islam. If any of that is spent for the needy, it is to enlist them for jihad or support the families of the suicide bombers. The bad Muslims are the lifeline of Islam and the breeding ground for good Muslims. All Muslim terrorists, unless they are converts, are born in and emerge from this group. Without the moral and financial support of the bad Muslims Islam will cease to exist.

Ugly Muslims.
As we learned the good Muslims are not good at all, and the bad ones are not really bad people, the ugly Muslims actually look beautiful. Islam is a world down the rabbit hole. Nothing is what it is because everything is what it is not. The ugly Muslims are clean-shaven, handsome or attractive, eloquent, articulate, and highly intelligent, just the kind of people you want to hang around with. They are journalists, professors, regular guests and contributors to mainstream media. They know what to say to gain your approval and your applause. They are charming. Their words are reassuring and their faces are familiar. You like them and trust them. So why do I call them ugly? Because they lie! Their job is to deceive you and to make you believe that the “real Islam” poses no threat to you. These wolves in sheep clothing are the most dangerous group. Deception is deadlier than terror. Do you fear more a ferocious animal that you can see or a deadly virus that you can’t? The enemy within is a lot more dangerous.

Unlike bad Muslims the ugly ones are not ignorant of their religion. They know of Muhammad’s raids, rapes, assassinations, genocides, tortures and beheadings, but they deny them, twist the facts and defend him. They accuse the good Muslims of having hijacked their religion of peace when they know they lie. They claim to be reformers when they know that Islam cannot be reformed. Islam is what it is. To reform Islam one has to change the Quran. Over 70% of it must be scrapped, and the other 30% is just sheer nonsense.

Reformers/Moderate

Reformer don’t want to change the Quran. They just want Muslims to practice it less. In theory it works. Even the deadliest poison in small doses is not lethal. But how can they convince all Muslims to not take their holy book seriously? This project is doomed from the start. This is either naiveté and wishful thinking, or a ruse to deceive the non-Muslims, to give them false hope so they can buy more time for Islam to take over the world, which is the goal of every Muslim, the good, the bad and the ugly.
The terrorist are born, raised and protected by the “moderates.” They are indistinguishable from each other. It is delusional to think that the non-terrorist Muslims have nothing to do with terrorism. Where do the terrorists come from if not from the so-called moderate Muslims?

All Muslims support the ideology that wants to kill us. There are also good people (bad Muslims) among them, like al Sisi, who want to change this. They can’t, because the ideology against which they speak is Islam itself. They will likely be assassinated before they succeed. The belief that Islam can be reformed from within is wishful thinking. Other religions allow change and adapt with times. Islam is like a fossil. What is written in the Quran cannot be changed and the problem with Islam is the Quran.

Islam cannot be reformed, but it can be eradicated. It cannot be molded, but it can be smashed and pulverized. This cannot be done from within. Growth happens from within. But if you want to demolish a building you have to get out of it. You can’t cut a branch while sitting on it.

Still one of the hardest hitting answer`s to a question that you will find on TV, classic stuff lady and a must watch video.

She needs an invite to question time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Owq8TkQ0AXA

She certainly got her answer.

Perhaps the Guardian readers will comment later.

Theresa May is about to tighten the screw on racist laws aimed at those of us that criticise islamist`s, she states this before an election, with a promise it will be law afterward if tories win.

Meanwhile, back in the real world!!


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3026230/Up-100-Islamist-teachers-banned-schools-investigation-links-Trojan-Horse-scandal-dozens-claiming-Lee-Rigby-s-murder-hoax.html

Put it on the politics forum for the attention of cryoftruth, who hates the Mail, and is suspected by quite few to also be northern lad.

Hmmnm. There ARE one or two people who suspect that YOU may not be who you claim to be Spellingandgrammarchecker.

Not me, of course. I would hate to falsely accuse somebody of duplicity.

I couldn't give two facks.

I get the joke.

Remember, the daughter couldn't possibly have been radicalised at home or in the community. That's why the girls were immediately declared innocent without anything resembling an investigation, and wouldn't be facing any charges if and when they returned to the UK.

Well, well, well, who would have thought this?  (Apart from the 1.01 backers obviously).

.
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/father-of-schoolgirl-who-joined-is-to-become-jihadi-bride-admits-he-took-her-on-protest-march-when-she-was-just-13-10158310.html

cloughandtaylor     05 Apr 15 10:08 
Still one of the hardest hitting answer`s to a question that you will find on TV, classic stuff lady and a must watch video.

She needs an invite to question time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Owq8TkQ0AXA
spellingandgrammarchecker     05 Apr 15 12:00 
She certainly got her answer.

Perhaps the Guardian readers will comment later.

I don't read the Guardian but I'll comment anyway. That b!tch in the chair needs shooting in the face.

Haven't see shooting in the face on here for a while.

What about spaffing on her chebs?

Has the father apologised to the police commander yet ?

He's too busy laughing his cóck off..

That b!tch in the chair needs shooting in the face

Racist.

It is time to throw political correctness in the garbage where it belongs

Great lime Ms Gabriel.

time for change
not the 5 a day charade

MIKAEL the forums own nasty racist fascist speaks of shooting women in the face.....how very brave of you MIKAEL

Jesus wept, this evil b@stard was on his way across Europe to the UK without a passport

Get these borders closed again ffs.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3043233/Mother-girl-killed-Calais-Polish-drifter-way-Britain-reveals-saw-daughter-lying-ground-abducted-froze-fear-bundled-car.html

C&T, they won't believe that on here, as it's in the Daily Mail.

Could you possibly find the Guardian link to it?

Then they wont be able to deny it.