Their legal system seems to be a mess, from what I've read on it. It's almost what you'd expect in a banana republic, which is a shame as Italy itself is great. Rome is even better than Scunthorpe for a naughty weekend away.
Their legal system seems to be a mess, from what I've read on it.It's almost what you'd expect in a banana republic, which is a shame as Italy itself is great.Rome is even better than Scunthorpe for a naughty weekend away.
@themightymac -- The sad thing about this tragedy is that many seem to forget that a young English girl was brutally murdered and the family have had no justice.
Not true. Rudy Guede was convicted of Meredith Kercher's murder. It was Guede who accused Knox and Sollecito, who have both just bee cleared. There was a great deal of forensic evidence against Guede but none to speak of against Knox and Sollecito.
@themightymac -- The sad thing about this tragedy is that many seem to forget that a young English girl was brutally murdered and the family have had no justice.Not true. Rudy Guede was convicted of Meredith Kercher's murder. It was Guede who accused
There was the knife from solletico's kitchen was there not? Although the strength of that evidence was brought into question
but none to speak of against Knox and Sollecito. There was the knife from solletico's kitchen was there not? Although the strength of that evidence was brought into question
It was incredibly small amounts on that knife was there not? WTF would he keep a murder weapon lying around anyway? The crime scene handlng from what I remember was pretty amateur, god knows what their evidence handling is like.
It was incredibly small amounts on that knife was there not? WTF would he keep a murder weapon lying around anyway?The crime scene handlng from what I remember was pretty amateur, god knows what their evidence handling is like.
Yes minute traces, that is correct. A total shambles from the start, they missed the clip from Meredith's bra on the first search, a key piece of evidence, only found some weeks later still lying on her bedroom floor.
Yes minute traces, that is correct. A total shambles from the start, they missed the clip from Meredith's bra on the first search, a key piece of evidence, only found some weeks later still lying on her bedroom floor.
Her behaviour was suspicious, but they never found the evidence to close it
One is presumed innocent until proved guilty as far as I am concerned
If she did it they should have got her in 1Her behaviour was suspicious, but they never found the evidence to close itOne is presumed innocent until proved guilty as far as I am concerned
IF Amanda Knox really had nothing to do with it, why did she put the black barman in the frame ?
I didn't follow the case that closely so could you please expand on that point. Thanks.
Hound-Dog-2 IF Amanda Knox really had nothing to do with it, why did she put the black barman in the frame ?I didn't follow the case that closely so could you please expand on that point. Thanks.
@themightymac -- The sad thing about this tragedy is that many seem to forget that a young English girl was brutally murdered and the family have had no justice.
Not true. Rudy Guede was convicted of Meredith Kercher's murder. It was Guede who accused Knox and Sollecito, who have both just bee cleared. There was a great deal of forensic evidence against Guede but none to speak of against Knox and Sollecito.
100% correct. Whole prosecution case was a fantasy no dna evidence
@themightymac -- The sad thing about this tragedy is that many seem to forget that a young English girl was brutally murdered and the family have had no justice.Not true. Rudy Guede was convicted of Meredith Kercher's murder. It was Guede who accused
IF Amanda Knox really had nothing to do with it, why did she put the black barman in the frame ?
I have no idea akabula, I felt she knew more than she admitted, but did not feel they had proved her involvement in the murder
I do not like prosecution appeals, once her appeal was accepted, that should have been the end
just my own opinion
IF Amanda Knox really had nothing to do with it, why did she put the black barman in the frame ?I have no idea akabula, I felt she knew more than she admitted, but did not feel they had proved her involvement in the murderI do not like prosecution ap
Justice is easy in this country If you are a women you are always believed If you are a man you are never believed and we do not bother any more about things like evidence
Although this case would have been challenging for us a woman victim, and a woman accused we may have actually had to look at the evidence
Justice is easy in this countryIf you are a women you are always believedIf you are a man you are never believed and we do not bother any more about things like evidenceAlthough this case would have been challenging for usa woman victim, and a woman
"I didn't follow the case that closely so could you please expand on that point. Thanks."
In the early part of it she implicated an innocent man.
My point was, if she is so innocent and hard done by why did she frame an innocent guy. If she is truly innocent she knows how that feels, BUT she had no problem doing it to another.
Later Knox has claimed she did it because the police wanted her to name him....... Seems Knox had an answer to everything.
"I didn't follow the case that closely so could you please expand on that point. Thanks."In the early part of it she implicated an innocent man. My point was, if she is so innocent and hard done by why did she frame an innocent guy. If she is truly i
the prosecutor's theory that it was some sort of drug fuelled orgy gone wrong seemed absolutely preposterous from day 1
much more likely that guede acted alone
the prosecutor's theory that it was some sort of drug fuelled orgy gone wrong seemed absolutely preposterous from day 1much more likely that guede acted alone
Justice is easy in this country If you are a women you are always believed
A sweeping statement that, as sweeping statements go, is utter bullsh1te. And I speak from recent and, indeed, ongoing experience.
Justice is easy in this countryIf you are a women you are always believedA sweeping statement that, as sweeping statements go, is utter bullsh1te. And I speak from recent and, indeed, ongoing experience.
Ah a woman poster who has not been believed I take it Cobblaz
Well I can only speak from experience and observation
I have seen too many men convicted on the unsubstantiated statements by women which I believe to be false
Have you seen our unfair divorce laws?
So while I admit it may not apply in all cases, I shall defend my bullsh1te
Ah a woman poster who has not been believed I take it CobblazWell I can only speak from experience and observationI have seen too many men convicted on the unsubstantiated statements by women which I believe to be falseHave you seen our unfair divorc
No, not without jeopardizing my partner's current situation. And, no, I am NOT a woman.
Stating that women are ALWAYS believed in criminal cases is an utterance deserving of contempt, based on my experience.
Sufficient to state that my partner is currently doing time BECAUSE she wasn't believed. And she is 100% innocent of the crime for which she was sent down. And, to add insult to injury, one of those who WAS guilty of the crime that my partner was sent down for is now in the same prison alongside her.
It seems I have expanded on it... oh, well.
Let's finish by saying that I have utter contempt for the legal system that is more interested in playing a game than discovering the truth. And as for the North Yorkshire Police, don't get me revved up any more...
can you expand on that Cobblaz... No, not without jeopardizing my partner's current situation. And, no, I am NOT a woman.Stating that women are ALWAYS believed in criminal cases is an utterance deserving of contempt, based on my experience.Sufficient
No, not without jeopardizing my partner's current situation. And, no, I am NOT a woman.
Stating that women are ALWAYS believed in criminal cases is an utterance deserving of contempt, based on my experience.
Sufficient to state that my partner is currently doing time BECAUSE she wasn't believed. And she is 100% innocent of the crime for which she was sent down. And, to add insult to injury, one of those who WAS guilty of the crime that my partner was sent down for is now in the same prison alongside her.
It seems I have expanded on it... oh, well.
Let's finish by saying that I have utter contempt for the legal system that is more interested in playing a game than discovering the truth. And as for the North Yorkshire Police, don't get me revved up any more...
can you expand on that Cobblaz... No, not without jeopardizing my partner's current situation. And, no, I am NOT a woman.Stating that women are ALWAYS believed in criminal cases is an utterance deserving of contempt, based on my experience.Sufficient
Are the British Press going to appeal this decision by Italy's highest court?
It's just our squalid Press has been absolutely ridiculously desperate to paint The Foxy One as some kind of devious (but glamorous) femme fatale who uses sex and charm as her deadliest weapons. They've not even bothered to shed their usual crocodile tears for the victim of the crimes, of which Miss Knox has rightfully been cleared.
Choke on it, vermin.
Are the British Press going to appeal this decision by Italy's highest court? It's just our squalid Press has been absolutely ridiculously desperate to paint The Foxy One as some kind of devious (but glamorous) femme fatale who uses sex and charm as
In the Knox case only they know the truth, but the Italian legal system has come out of it a laughing stock and the victim, poor Miss Kercher, has been over looked, it`s all about Knox. If Foxy was a fat ugly bird, I wonder if views would remain the same?
In the Knox case only they know the truth, but the Italian legal system has come out of it a laughing stock and the victim, poor Miss Kercher, has been over looked, it`s all about Knox. If Foxy was a fat ugly bird, I wonder if views would remain the
Perhaps I was a bit strong in saying ALWAYS so apologies Cobblaz
But I do see a bias
One recent case in particular angered me, not only was the man wrongfully convicted.
But he is now imprisoned in the country for life, his life and career have been destroyed
This is completely excessive, once your punishment is over that is it
This has only been done for the benefit of women, there is no justice in it at all
It is pure vindictiveness nothing else
Perhaps I was a bit strong in saying ALWAYS so apologies CobblazBut I do see a biasOne recent case in particular angered me, not only was the man wrongfully convicted.But he is now imprisoned in the country for life, his life and career have been des
themightymac 02 Apr 15 00:14 Joined: 05 Apr 02 | Topic/replies: 12,861 | Blogger: themightymac's blog There is nothing worse than being convicted of something one hasn`t done. Mrs Cobblaz has my sympathy
Thank you. mightymac, and apology accepted ebulgery. I can't go into any more detail just now, because my partner still has 5 months to serve before she is released on tag, and then a further 2 years on parole. Maybe if we are all still here at the end of 2017, I shall say more. You just never know who is looking in on these forums, and I certainly don't trust the justice system to not be vindictive towards my better half should it get back to them.
I'll end by saying this: if any of you work in an office environment where you are connected to a network, for Christ's sake don't be so naiive as to trust your co-workers. ALWAYS log off, or at least lock your terminal, whenever you are away from it. Not doing so has cost my partner a 42 months custodial sentence and the thick end of £100,000.
themightymac02 Apr 15 00:14Joined:05 Apr 02| Topic/replies: 12,861 | Blogger: themightymac's blogThere is nothing worse than being convicted of something one hasn`t done. Mrs Cobblaz has my sympathyThank you. mightymac, and apology accepted ebulgery.