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parachute
16 Mar 15 23:42
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I'm disappointed that two of my favourite birds missed out on the shortlist.
I would vote for crow and pigeon with sparrow and moorhen for a place. And wagtails.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-31904842

The "official list"

Mute Swan
Red kite
Hen Harrier
Puffin
Barn Owl
Kingfisher
Wren
Robin
Blackbird
Blue Tit

I would consider a national bird one that most people have some opportunity to see in the wild.
Puffin? Barn Owl? Lovely but hard to see in daily life.
Kingfishers are sublime, but I saw my first one in the flesh (fleetingly) last summer.
I am a great fan of our local red kites, who are astonishing.
Never seen a hen harrier in the wild.
Most people will see the others - swan, robin, wren, blackbird and blue tit.

Robin is apparently favourite....

I'm in a flap about this. I'm spitting feathers. Where is the market?
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Report Mr Eboue March 16, 2015 11:01 PM GMT
Robin is a full bank job. Associated with Christmas cards etc.
Report spellingandgrammarchecker March 16, 2015 11:03 PM GMT
Carol from Essex a shocking omission.
Report naydam March 16, 2015 11:05 PM GMT
Dodo might be the most similar in character.
Report parachute March 16, 2015 11:06 PM GMT
I see your point Mr E but if it is greeting card PR why not the stork or easter chick?
Report akabula March 16, 2015 11:06 PM GMT
Kingfisher for me with the Blue Tit first reserve.
Report Big_Issue March 16, 2015 11:11 PM GMT
Surely the thieving Magpie would be the most representative of a Nation that seems to encourage the 'entitlement' culture so prevalently these days?
Report parachute March 16, 2015 11:21 PM GMT
I'm not aware that magpies steal.
Report Big_Issue March 16, 2015 11:24 PM GMT
Para, they are a bit like your average Chav as they like to decorate their home with shiny things.

Apparently a myth though according to this article:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-28797519
Report parachute March 16, 2015 11:58 PM GMT
Did a magpie ruin your life Big Issue?
Report Pokermonster March 17, 2015 12:18 AM GMT
Birdwatchers are spoiled around my neck of the woods, we have a huge variety.  There are loads of buzzards, kestrels and owls; puffins, waxwings, and even the odd peregrine or swan.  The local mafia of the feathered kind around here, however, are the jackdaws, none of the other birds dare mess with them.
Report themightymac March 17, 2015 1:25 AM GMT
LaughLaughLaughLaugh

Sorry aka Wink
Report breadnbutter March 17, 2015 1:28 AM GMT
Magpies are vermin ,due to a few reasons they are well out of control and were never so prevalent than they are now .

between them and cats there is hardly a song bird left in the country

cull long overdue ...cats first Happy
Report themightymac March 17, 2015 1:32 AM GMT
We had a Robin visit 3 times a day. Brave wee thing. Got nearer and nearer and eventually started to eat out of my hand. Didn`t appear one morning and neighbour told me her cat had brought a dead Robin into the house Devil
Report themightymac March 17, 2015 1:36 AM GMT
I vote for the Starling. Beautiful colour plumage but hardly anybody notices. Sticks with us all the year round and there is nothing more spectacular in the sky than a murmuration.
Report akabula March 17, 2015 1:38 AM GMT
Worst thing you can do mac even worse than people who put bread out everyday. Best that birds remain wary of humans same as every other wild creature.
With bread the same birds visit every day gorging themselves on the bread but don't get the vitamins their natural diet gives them.
That's part of the reason for the demise in our more popular birds. Sad
Report themightymac March 17, 2015 1:41 AM GMT
You`re probably right aka.
Report akabula March 17, 2015 1:57 AM GMT
I used to do it Blush but got put wise when I joined the RSPCB.
Now I have nesting boxes up but only supply food (bought from the pet shop) in severe weather.
Report themightymac March 17, 2015 2:28 AM GMT
Bula (Brilliant horse by the way), I`m long term member of RSPB too. Does that mean I can call you "brother" Shocked

I don`t feed birds bread either. I buy bird food in bulk from http://www.wigglywigglers.co.uk/birdfood.html

You are probably aware of it, with it being most popular site of it`s kind, but if not you may save yourself a few bob long term.
Report Jack Hacksaw March 17, 2015 8:56 AM GMT
I'd go for goldfinch or nuthatch - for colouring.

Robin must be strongly odds on.  Everyone knows what it looks like.  Garden friendly.  Red colour also in Union Jack/Flag.
Report blackbarn March 17, 2015 9:49 AM GMT
Robin is nailed on, I would have thought.  Glad to see no vermin on the listWink  My choice would be the feisty Wren - I like his property-developing, estate agency style, starts several nests, chooses a mate then shows her round the sites and she chooses one she likes.  If there is plenty of food around he repeats the process with another mate.
Report breadnbutter March 17, 2015 10:16 AM GMT
Cant remember the last time a seen one .

cats prob got them all
Report Thin and Crispy March 17, 2015 11:13 AM GMT
I would have thought a manky Pigeon shitting on your back would represent Britain rather well.
Report Crisp77 March 17, 2015 11:32 AM GMT
Surprised there is not a decent pair of t1ts in this
Report Badsworth March 17, 2015 1:25 PM GMT
Cuckoo would have been a good outside bet, where's the imagination of the people who did the list?
Report blackbarn March 17, 2015 2:00 PM GMT
Cuckoo = Opportunistic greedy immigrant squatter.  Excellent choiceCrazy
Report twizzle22 March 17, 2015 6:20 PM GMT
The way this country is going down the tubes i would have thought " a lame duck" would be most appropriate.
Report Emitdeb March 17, 2015 6:28 PM GMT
Jay.
Report blackbarn March 17, 2015 6:36 PM GMT
Jay = Pretty but vermin.
Report Crisp77 March 17, 2015 6:44 PM GMT
Surprised there are no fans of swallows on here
Report mange March 17, 2015 7:05 PM GMT
I fink she drinks in my pub...............
Report sixtwosix March 17, 2015 7:11 PM GMT
They come over here scaring native birds , raiding feed tables ........Ring Necked Parakeet for me.

Very few of us see a Puffin for goodness sake .

Where is the magnificent collared dove , the stomach on legs that is the Wood Pigeon and as for the halfwit who calls the wonderful Jay names......
Report spellingandgrammarchecker March 17, 2015 8:45 PM GMT
Oozlum Bird
Report Crisp77 March 17, 2015 9:14 PM GMT
Running around with you
Report blackbarn March 17, 2015 9:17 PM GMT
sixtwosix - this halfwit has been a bird-watcher for nearly 60 yearsTongue Out.  Jays are beautiful birds but they are among the ruthless thugs of the bird world
Report Just Checking March 17, 2015 9:27 PM GMT
It is strange I suppose that population wise for a lot of people the birds they are most likely to see day to day are pigeons, but they aren't not on that list. I suppose it's because unlike their pretty cousins like wood pigeons and doves, urban pigeons tend to be dirty scavenging mutant bird zombies with bits of their feet missing, filled with a lust for brains.
Report sixtwosix March 17, 2015 9:40 PM GMT
Nonsense , Jays are constantly harassed by magpies ........
Report sixtwosix March 17, 2015 9:41 PM GMT
Saw a documentary on pigeons .
The suggestion was they must be aware of what they are (akin to mankind) as they only mate with different versions of pigeon to themselves, so strengthening the gene pool.
Report sixtwosix March 17, 2015 9:44 PM GMT
Perhaps you just choose a poor word in vermin .
Report blackbarn March 17, 2015 9:59 PM GMT
Not my recent experience here in Sussex, Sixtwosix.  They increasingly seem to get along better than they used to. In any event, the Magpies are preoccupied with attacks by crows (and avoiding getting shot!).
Report sixtwosix March 17, 2015 10:02 PM GMT
I throw monkey nuts out in the garden for Jays .They sometimes swallow them whole ,then fly off to enjoy them.
Never seen one bother any other type of bird feeding in the garden.
Report blackbarn March 17, 2015 10:03 PM GMT
Sixtwosix.  Re vermin, fair point!- farmer's son and old habits die hard.  Still on the "General Licence" list though!
Report blackbarn March 17, 2015 10:05 PM GMT
sixtwosix - you might want to do a bit of research on their dietWinkWink
Report Just Checking March 17, 2015 10:21 PM GMT
I don't know about their bird chasing habits but magpies are nice looking birds.
Magpie feathers can have a blue/green irredescence you don't really see from a distance.
Report Crisp77 March 17, 2015 10:22 PM GMT
I can't see thrush making the list anytime soon
Report spellingandgrammarchecker March 17, 2015 11:22 PM GMT
.
http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/Thrush/Pages/Introduction.aspx

strange song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WROdwlk9_h8

Shocked
Report spellingandgrammarchecker March 17, 2015 11:23 PM GMT
just read the top comment on the youtube page. Laugh
Report Sica Dan March 18, 2015 1:33 AM GMT
I remember seeing a travel programme about Mongolian people living
on the fringes of the Gobi Desert, in the background I noticed there
were pigeons even there. Of course any sensible pigeon would live in
St Mark's square.
Report Big_Issue March 18, 2015 9:06 AM GMT
Are there any Eastern European Migrant birds that have come here over, stealing our back gardens and hedgerows?
Report themightymac March 18, 2015 11:44 PM GMT
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Report bodil March 18, 2015 11:53 PM GMT
It should be the ****hawk.  But failing that, the robin.  When you have one perch on your hand to eat seed, you can't help admire the little buggers.
Report crags March 19, 2015 12:46 AM GMT
Thought that black birds would be higher on the list in this multicultural society of ours.
Report Pokermonster March 19, 2015 12:51 AM GMT
You can't call them black anymore... or birds come to that.
Report crags March 19, 2015 12:53 AM GMT
You can call them black, but not coloured Wink hth
Report Pokermonster March 19, 2015 1:01 AM GMT
Really?  That would most certainly make things a whole lot easier, I've been trying to chirp and whistle at them like Percy Edwards.
Report crags March 19, 2015 1:21 AM GMT
He had a way with birds did old Percy, almost on a par with our very own kenny mann.
Report iamajambo March 19, 2015 3:25 PM GMT
I've voted robin,but I think that the Mallard should have made the final list as it must be the first contact which many young children make with wild-life whilst feeding them with bread,which they shouldn't do,of course.
Report Big_Issue March 19, 2015 6:03 PM GMT
Is Babs Windsor on this list somewhere?
Report alun2005 March 19, 2015 6:09 PM GMT
Can the election overseers ensure that no-one can vote more than once?
Report themightymac March 19, 2015 7:44 PM GMT
I admit that one of the following doesn`t belong to these shores and one is a very rare visitor but what the heck, I like them Grin

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Report Big_Issue March 19, 2015 9:52 PM GMT
The Hoopoe! Mostly an occasional visitor and breeder in The Sciliy Isles and across the coast of Southern England. I believe I saw one in Yorskhire when a child but maybe I was mistaken.
Report Big_Issue March 19, 2015 9:52 PM GMT
The Hoopoe! Mostly an occasional visitor and breeder in The Sciliy Isles and across the coast of Southern England. I believe I saw one in Yorskhire when a child but maybe I was mistaken.
Report Velasquez March 19, 2015 10:09 PM GMT
Robin Love
Report themightymac March 19, 2015 11:53 PM GMT
The linnet is a lovely bird. Used to be common place up North in early 70s but never seen one in over 30 years. Is it because their local habitat has been decimated due to farming and development? Are they prominent down South?

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Report dukeofpuke March 20, 2015 12:15 AM GMT
a robin nested and raised 4 chicks in my post box (wooden) mental, as house on busy road buses every 10 mins
Report dukeofpuke March 20, 2015 12:17 AM GMT
mistle thrush in centre of leics last year made its nest and raised chicks in a traffic light, nest was made on top of the amber light so the fkin birds were staring at the red light above them all day
Report akabula March 20, 2015 12:35 AM GMT
Last one I saw mac was on a camping trip to somewhere just past Dumbarton nearly 50 years ago.
Report themightymac March 20, 2015 12:39 AM GMT
Any idea why they have disappeared in Scotland aka?
Report akabula March 20, 2015 12:47 AM GMT
I think they are still around but in limited numbers.
Not sure why but you can bet mankind has a hand in it somewhere.
Will give me something to research tomorrow. Happy
Report themightymac March 20, 2015 12:59 AM GMT
Cheers, I will look forward to your White Paper on the subject Excited It`s a mystery to me.

Would help you with your research but have a double on Cruizero and Atletico Nationale in Copa America and off to watch games. GL
Report akabula March 20, 2015 1:26 AM GMT
Cheers and GL with your bets.
Report themightymac March 21, 2015 7:21 PM GMT
Where art thou Aka? Been awaiting your research with great anticipation. Sad
Report Just Checking March 21, 2015 8:06 PM GMT
I had a magpie come to visit to thank me for the compliment, didn't know they were on betfair :)

Loud as hell right outside my window, this ch-ch-ch-ch-ch noise like a sort of ratchet toy, I had no idea at first what the hell it was!
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