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Wesdag
20 Feb 15 18:15
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is this the main item on BBC News?

And why the hell is it my business?

If you decide you want to travel to a war zone - then good riddance.
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Report guinness2dear February 24, 2015 5:11 PM GMT
BBC are catching up..
Report guinness2dear February 24, 2015 5:20 PM GMT
Sky now catching up.
Report starkeycars February 24, 2015 5:29 PM GMT
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Report starkeycars February 24, 2015 5:31 PM GMT
What's ever happened to boko haram ? They have a hit in the 60 s with whiter shade of pale now all this s h I t  Sad
Report xmoneyx February 24, 2015 6:34 PM GMT
they want isis kok,prob get more thouCool
Report Burton-Brewers February 24, 2015 6:41 PM GMT
it's very regrettable but I'm sure lessons can be learned
Report Emden February 24, 2015 6:44 PM GMT
they've gone out to 'further their studies'.
Report 11kv February 24, 2015 6:45 PM GMT
Brilliant, glad to hear they arrived safely...........
Report moisok February 24, 2015 6:46 PM GMT
has anyone condemned these girls who support the killer daesh cult
most seem to view them as victims  (the media etc that is)
Report knot in wood February 24, 2015 7:26 PM GMT
i wonder if "our" police will follow them into syria.
Report mobo February 24, 2015 7:50 PM GMT
Think of all those daesh boys with their tongues hanging out waiting for them!!!
Report guinness2dear February 24, 2015 7:59 PM GMT
A dangerous place for plod to be walking around. Now can you imagine if they were taken hostage?
Report Injera February 24, 2015 8:38 PM GMT
They were smuggled across the border. So they must have arranged to meet someone.

All very odd.

Agreed that the blame seems directed in the wrong places.

A question you won't hear asked by the media: 'What the hell is wrong with Islam that makes 15 year old girls want to be sex slaves?'
Report Wesdag February 24, 2015 9:54 PM GMT
Seems that GCSE's weren't enough to keep them happy.

Now they'll be doing O & A levels.
Report bizman February 24, 2015 10:02 PM GMT
I reckon if they could have boyfriend here in UK without 100% chance of being honourable killed they would stay here and enjoy teenage life. The things is is not allowed, and they know that, do that, and family will see it is in their interest to protect honour of the family and kill the bastard.
Report doantwin2easy February 24, 2015 10:21 PM GMT
It's a fair point bizman. You have to ask what is so deficient in their London lives that they feel compelled to take such a radical step.

These young girls probably seek adventure and freedom, as opposed to the accepted dialogue of fulfilling a religious obligation, as a reason to travel.

What they will find could be somewhat different, and it would be interesting to see whether the liberties they are used to in a western democracy, become somewhat enlarged over the passage of time.
Report guinness2dear February 24, 2015 10:25 PM GMT
It won't be the only passage getting enlarged for these young ladies..
Report Wesdag February 24, 2015 10:27 PM GMT
Laugh
Report Hank Hill February 24, 2015 10:52 PM GMT
Yet another mug writing for the guardian

.http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/feb/24/syria-bound-schoolgirls-arent-jihadi-devil-women-theyre-vulnerable-children#comments
Report guinness2dear February 24, 2015 11:09 PM GMT
Aye well let's just make one thing clear to that prik in the Guardian. They are savvy girls who have seen what happened to Lee Rigby, Alan Henning and many more. They have also seen what these bastards have done to fellow mussys, schoolgirls in Nigeria, and innocents of every creed they have butchered. They then decided to leave their families-home to get on a plane with the sole intention of becoming jihadi brides and giving their lives to the 'cause' They are not stupid, as we keep hearing, they know exactly what, and who they are marrying into, they weren't kidnapped. they were not forced. Their choice, and it'sabout time the media and the government got some balls and said just that..
Report naydam February 25, 2015 2:19 AM GMT
I'd say that's just about spot on, G2D.
Report Thin and Crispy February 25, 2015 1:56 PM GMT
Good article in the I about this

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/if-teenage-girls-want-to-join-isis-in-the-face-of-all-its-atrocities-then-they-should-leave-and-never-return-10065516.html
Report cardifffc February 25, 2015 2:26 PM GMT
g2d......excellent post....totally agree
Report Wesdag February 25, 2015 2:36 PM GMT
Even the liberal intelligentsia are finding it difficult to justify and excuse these scumbags.

When they achieve A grades, it's all down to them.

When they decide to join ISIS, it's everybody else's fault.
Report cardifffc February 25, 2015 2:37 PM GMT
thin and crispy......just read your link.......good piece...........agree with everything she wrote
Report guinness2dear February 25, 2015 3:05 PM GMT
That's what gets me about the media, and they are all complicit in this on tv. The nauseous fawning over these 3. Just this morning i tuned into Susanna Reid (cricket break) straining her arse asking some apologist bint "Well what can we do to help the girls now" and "Can the police still help them" Here's a clue Susanna, your help won't be appreciated (unless you send them a live hostage to practice on) nor will any authoritarians. In fact anyone trying to 'help' them now will end up dead or become another pawn. And don't be surprised if the next time you see or hear of one of these 3 it will be when they blow themselves up alongside more innocents who are far more deserving of your 'concern'  When will they wake up?
Report Wesdag February 25, 2015 3:20 PM GMT
Deluded mugs.

They still can not understand that there are evil people out there who will kill for their beliefs.

You'd think they had never heard of the holocaust for example.
Report lovegod February 25, 2015 4:19 PM GMT
Who paid for their air tickets?
Report terry mccann February 25, 2015 4:28 PM GMT
g2d is of course spot on but I do fear for the two ugly ones,some of the camels are better looking!
Report cardifffc February 25, 2015 4:34 PM GMT
terryLaughLaugh
Report Hank Hill February 25, 2015 4:36 PM GMT
terry Laugh
Report moisok February 25, 2015 5:17 PM GMT
you only have to look at the name of the author

as I have pointed out - the gruniad is stuffed full of muslims writing for them

they will try to deflect any criticism of their so called religion
Report akabula February 25, 2015 5:25 PM GMT
Spot on guiness, great posts. I think most sane people would struggle to disagree with any of what you've written.
Report moisok February 25, 2015 5:42 PM GMT
The islamic propaganda spewing out of the guardian is unbelievable.

They should be condemning well educated girls who support a death cult.

Instead it is excuses all round.
Report guinness2dear February 25, 2015 6:07 PM GMT
Something else that was said this morning was this littly ditty offered up by the apologist bint. When asked by Susanna Reid what will the girls be doing (no mention of being brides of course) now they have arrived in Syria, she said... "Well they could be receiving some weapon training" Oh how i smiled...

I'm sure Ben Shephard s****ed btw..
Report vodka and redbull February 25, 2015 8:48 PM GMT
I think the security forces have known some time of there activity on the net etc  and decided to let the whole thing run.not getiing enough out of the muslem community,blame the turkish airlines,for letting underage girls on a flight,muslem community now all sitting up and listening,winner winner as far as security sevices goes.
Report Emden February 25, 2015 9:06 PM GMT
I thought these muslims families kept their girls on a very tight leash (almost chaperoned) - so surprised the families didn't know where these girls were for what must have been many hours before they flew out and reported it.

I mean it takes a bit of organising to pack bags, get money and passports, meet up with friends, travel to the airport, get checked in, go into departures, fly out etc. 

Haven't really read much of the background to this story, so maybe the family have already explained this
Report vodka and redbull February 25, 2015 9:14 PM GMT
I think the police have taken their computers,gathered all the history from it,then deleted it telling everybody,nothing on there at all,this really does smell of spooks type stuff.
Report Wesdag February 25, 2015 9:29 PM GMT
A shame they never attached some kind of tracking device to these scum in order that they could be greeted by a drone on their arrival in Syria.
Report guinness2dear February 25, 2015 9:36 PM GMT
Which reminds me...
Report fool proof February 27, 2015 8:46 PM GMT
Jihadi John has kept these 3 poor mites off our minds for 48 hours,Irony
Report Wesdag February 27, 2015 9:46 PM GMT
A most welcome diversion but hopefully not before encouraging a few more to make the trip.

Good riddance.
Report guinness2dear February 28, 2015 12:04 AM GMT
I've just watched a debate about border controla and some bint saying we should do more to "stop these people from leaving" As there is an open door poilcy of entering the UK, i see no reason why there shouldn't be the same policy to those who want to leave..
Report terry mccann February 28, 2015 8:43 AM GMT
I agree as long as they are never allowed to come back,
surely there silly children will see sights that belong in hell and say to themselves what the heck are we doing here,
there must be some good somewhere hidden in these people!?
Report naydam February 28, 2015 9:19 AM GMT
I suppose you COULD say that they're good Muslims. You know, 'slaying the Infidel' and all that! Crazy
Report guinness2dear February 28, 2015 12:55 PM GMT
Yes, naydam, bizman posted a great piece saying just that (and more) on page2. Probably the best piece i've seen written by anyone regarding this 'faith'.
Report mememe February 28, 2015 1:02 PM GMT
Are they still straight A students - they're probably now at B+ level and in terminal decline.

I should think as they have taken unauthorised absence from school, their parents will be fined - or are there different rules for them as opposed to families who take their children for a week to Spain?
Report naydam February 28, 2015 5:01 PM GMT
Well, I reckon that, by now, the excitement of the adventure will have worn off. They will realise that they have made a teensy mistake.
They will also have discovered that they are totally useless to their new society. They are too old. They can't cook. They can't clean. They won't stop bloody crying and they want to go home. They don't know the Koran properly or how devout Muslim woman should behave. The only purpose that they are good for is to be passed about between the troops.

My opinion could be very wrong, of course. They may be thriving and enjoying life but I doubt it very much.
Report Wesdag February 28, 2015 5:29 PM GMT
They could be dead for all I care.
Report Foinavon February 28, 2015 7:14 PM GMT
It's quite nice weather out there in Syria at the moment, dry and sunny, not too hot, a bit like late Spring here. Apart from the flies, dust, poor sanitation and cadaverous odours, occasional explosions and small arms fire, there's not much to worry about really.
Report fool proof February 28, 2015 7:17 PM GMT
Perhaps Lenny Henry can divert some Comic relief cash from Africa to make their stay in Syria a little more comfortable.
Report guinness2dear February 28, 2015 8:31 PM GMT
They are too old

There's a first, you made me smile then, naydam..
Report cardifffc February 28, 2015 9:24 PM GMT
how long before their regretted their decision to go out there on ........about 20 mins
Report mobo March 1, 2015 3:09 PM GMT
why on earth would they regret it?

They are only doing what their good book says.
Report doantwin2easy March 1, 2015 10:48 PM GMT
But their parents generation didn't feel the need to take the Quran to such extremes. And infinitely fewer first generation immigrants to the UK became "radicalised". Did they just lack opportunity, secretly holding an idealism that was just bubbling under the surface? You have to ask yourself what has changed.

And that question is in no way condoning the subsequent actions of these British born jihadists, who the UK has done it's best to accommodate.
Report doantwin2easy March 1, 2015 10:49 PM GMT
*its
Report Foinavon March 1, 2015 10:56 PM GMT
What has changed is comms. The ease and cheapness of international communications today was undreamt of a generation ago.
Report doantwin2easy March 1, 2015 11:17 PM GMT
I'm not so sure. I think the previous generation came to the UK trying to make something of themselves. Not assimilating necessarily, but wanting to fit in and buy into at least some of the commercial and ideological values of their adopted nation.

What we see now is a somewhat disaffected generation, that have their religious and political beliefs aligned with those thousands of miles away and at hugely conflicting odds with those of the country in which they were born.
Report maleuk01. March 1, 2015 11:29 PM GMT
I'm not so sure. I think the previous generation came to the UK trying to make something of themselves. Not assimilating necessarily, but wanting to fit in and buy into at least some of the commercial and ideological values of their adopted nation.


totally disagree, a very high percentage of the older generation cannot still speak English. A lot never even bothered with work. They did not try and fit in, they formed their own social groups and areas where they lived.
Report doantwin2easy March 1, 2015 11:35 PM GMT
maleuk, that is why I was careful not to say assimilate. In more simple language, 20 years ago they wanted to make a few quid and speak English, which is the generation we're talking about.
Report doantwin2easy March 1, 2015 11:39 PM GMT
or at least 30 years ago.
Report artie March 2, 2015 3:28 PM GMT
Why do these "problems" only involve Muslims.Other religious groups i.e.Jews,Hindus,Sikhs etc. live constructive peaceful lives in this country.
Report Injera March 2, 2015 3:43 PM GMT
Apparently 22 females are known to have gone to Syria from the UK.
Report guinness2dear March 2, 2015 3:50 PM GMT
There should be flights arranged for bints who want to go. The government should put an advert in all national newspapers and all media outlets, saying such.. Just tell them it's a one-way ticket..
Report alun2005 March 2, 2015 4:03 PM GMT
Why will NO-ONE in politics or the media say that it's a GOOD thing for this country for our enemies to leave it ?   How much more bleeding' obvious can this case be?  Wannabe Jihadists/Brides/Apologists of Jihadists are, when I last looked, the ENEMY of the West, committed to destroying us.

I'd like to ask Vince Cable (for example) would he like one living next door to him?
Report mobo March 2, 2015 4:27 PM GMT
Read the good book and subsequent hadiths and you will understand the plan.
Report Wesdag March 2, 2015 4:32 PM GMT
'Tis indeed very odd g2d.

Seems like a good opportunity to rid our shores of some scum.

Why are the govt so desperate to hold on to such types?
Report mememe March 2, 2015 4:38 PM GMT
It's their GCSE geography project, and foreign languages, and Religious Ed. ... kills 3 birds with 1 stone, so to speak.

Mind you, could have got much the same experience by going to Rhyl on a Saturday night ... and be feted by being straight A students and virgins ... very unusual in Rhyl, I hear.
Report Wesdag March 6, 2015 7:01 PM GMT
All plod's fault now for not alerting the families.

The families claim they would've stopped them had they known.
Report mobo March 6, 2015 9:50 PM GMT
It sure ain't the fault of Islam or daesh  .  The influence of the forum is upon them!!!!
Read their good book and the hadiths - you will see where it all comes from and where it is going
It is drummed into them at an early age.
Report Wesdag March 10, 2015 3:21 PM GMT
Families now being questioned by MP's blaming plod.

I sense a claim for compensation brewing.

Will any compo protect these girls from drones?
Report fool proof March 10, 2015 7:46 PM GMT
An apology from PLOD is always a nice first move in compo claims.Bet the families are able to claim legal aid.
Report Barry Conway March 10, 2015 7:52 PM GMT
They have to be a shoo in for IACGMOOH, NRNB only of course.
Report Burton-Brewers March 10, 2015 8:38 PM GMT
why can't a nice stretch limo be sent out to pick them up? it's not as if they are going to face any charges.
Report GLASGOWCALLING March 10, 2015 8:39 PM GMT
political correctness gone MAD, scotland yard having to apologise to the familys....in all honesty the familys should surely

be questioned about neglect ( if they try the old compo trick ).
Report Emden March 10, 2015 9:27 PM GMT
6 figure payout and and unreserved apology from the Met is brewing.

Followed by 6 public enquiries and the call for peoples heads (as in resign not cut off)

Many lessons will have been learned.
Report guinness2dear March 10, 2015 11:02 PM GMT
Apparently they won't face any terrorism charges if they return? If ever there was a green light to go and spend a few weeks or months being jihadied (mussy for boned) learn a 'trade' and come back and spread the word, that was the LED blessing..
Report guinness2dear March 13, 2015 12:18 AM GMT
Any chance of Anna Soubry being radicalised? Fred the weatherman doesn't count..
Report guinness2dear March 13, 2015 11:31 PM GMT
No misconduct proceedings, no sackings, no charges, just another cover up..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-31857066
Report guinness2dear March 14, 2015 12:37 PM GMT
4 days of Chelts explains why the above post from me was put on ere instead of the Rotherham fred.

My apologies.
Report guinness2dear March 15, 2015 1:44 PM GMT
3 more teenagers (18 or 19) arrested on Friday trying to cross into Syria from Turkey. They are now about to be deported. Where to?
Report guinness2dear March 15, 2015 1:53 PM GMT
All male and all wanting to join ISIL.
Report Wesdag March 15, 2015 2:26 PM GMT
No doubt they are also "straight A students" who have been brainwashed.

Or does that only apply when you are a girl?
Report guinness2dear March 15, 2015 3:08 PM GMT
Sky catching up and now say the 3 are already back in London after being deported, and are facing terrorism charges.
Report fool proof March 15, 2015 5:06 PM GMT
Should have let them enter Syria,Never allowed to return if they lived.
Report fool proof March 15, 2015 5:06 PM GMT
Should have let them enter Syria,Never allowed to return if they lived.
Report guinness2dear March 15, 2015 5:26 PM GMT
A good time to send a message out. 30 years in a Syrian jail should cover it..
Report Injera March 15, 2015 5:37 PM GMT
Apparently they're teenagers not Muslim teenagers.

The 'Muslim' bit is key to the story. Not many Jews, Christians or atheists venturing east.

They leave the Muslim bit out to protect the great success of multi culturalism...
Report naydam March 15, 2015 5:45 PM GMT
Well, there are other teenagers who are joining groups to fight AGAINST ISIS. Perhaps it's best not to assume their destination or religion.
Report guinness2dear March 15, 2015 7:14 PM GMT
If they were not Muslim ye can guarantee their names - faces and the colour of their farts would have been released on the Beeb by now...
Report Do wah Diddy March 15, 2015 7:31 PM GMT
THREE MUSLIM GIRLS GOING TO SYRIA ,ONE SAID I LIKE ONE DIRECTION ,THE SECOND ONE SAID I LIKE COLD PLAY AND THE THIRD ONE SAID WHOS BEEN EATING MY PORRIDGE
Report Do wah Diddy March 15, 2015 7:33 PM GMT
THE FIRST TWO SAID THATS NOT A JOKE ,AND THE THIRD  ONE SAID WELL DO WAH DIDDY THINKS ITS FUNNY
Report guinness2dear March 16, 2015 1:14 PM GMT
18 yr old in Brum now arrested.

Tis about time the planes were organised for those who want to go...
Report Wesdag March 16, 2015 2:00 PM GMT
guinness2dear    15 Mar 15 19:14 
If they were not Muslim ye can guarantee their names - faces and the colour of their farts would have been released on the Beeb by now...


Don't mind naydam, he's about as naive as they come.
Report fool proof March 17, 2015 8:03 PM GMT
Brighton and hove council have made a 16 year old boy a ward of court so they can stop him leaving the country after learning his family had planned a trip to Dubia,Fearing he would travel to Syria.

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31930193

Why not just fly the whole lot to Syria and take their passport's from win win.
Report Wesdag March 17, 2015 9:08 PM GMT
Unbelievably, he is currently on bail for GBH.

Best keep him over here to cause more damage.

Crazy
Report Baphornet February 20, 2019 6:05 PM GMT
some interesting comments on this
Report DenzilPenberthy February 20, 2019 6:28 PM GMT
At least they got the sh@g they were after
Report Baphornet February 21, 2019 5:45 PM GMT
i heard today that some 'White Helmets' plus families, have been resettled in the UK. I thought there was some doubts about their validity? Or was this Russian fake news?
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