Blair/Cameron left Iraq/Libya basketcases

I agree moneyx

But if one removes strong leadership, strong government in effect law and order,
then one can hardly be surprised at the result.

I think the West has done great wrong in the Middle East over the last 25 years, particularly
as I see the reason why.

Democracy means nothing to these people, they do not need it.
The whole place seems to be under the control of the mad and the bad now.