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Len Port

Portugese Journalist

McCanns vs Amaral verdict nearing

The verdict in Kate and Gerry McCann’s civil action against the former lead detective Gonçalo Amaral may come sooner than expected because of a recent behind-the-scenes development in the long-drawn-out case.

The question of whether or not Kate and Gerry McCann are legally entitled to represent their daughter Madeleine in their claim for damages has taken a significant step closer to being resolved, according to a source close to the process.

Madeleine was made a ward of court in the UK in April 2008. In January last year, Amaral argued in Lisbon’s Palace of Justice that because Madeleine was still a ward of court the McCanns did not have the legal right to represent her in their Lisbon lawsuit against him and three other parties.

The Lisbon judge, Emília Melo e Castro, gave Madeleine’s parents the opportunity to obtain appropriate documentation about the ward of court matter from the British High Court.

The McCanns had a 30-day set period in which to present this. They did so without delay and much earlier than expected. The documentation was presented to the Lisbon court through the couple’s lawyers on 23 January. None of the defence lawyers has or is expected to raise any objections.

So it is now up to the Lisbon judge to decide the relatively straightforward matter of whether the documentation attests to the McCanns’ right to represent Madeleine. When this is settled, the trial is expected to move towards its last formal exchanges and then, finally, sooner than most people had anticipated, perhaps next month, a verdict.

The McCanns are seeking €1.2 million in damages for the severe distress they say has been caused to them by Amaral’s book, A Verdade da Mentira (‘The Truth of the Lie’), and a subsequent documentary.



The judge’s recent summary of the main points in the case that had been proved or not proved left Amaral and his supporters optimistic about the eventual outcome.

Amaral said this week that he was hoping for an acquittal and the lifting of financial difficulties that have burdened him since the McCanns decided to sue five years ago.

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By:
Ivor
When: 08 Feb 15 17:00
Even that may well not be the end.. could run and run iffen either side chooses to fight on.
By:
naydam
When: 08 Feb 15 17:35
My bet is that Amaral loses.
By:
guinness2dear
When: 08 Feb 15 21:06
There's a shock..
By:
breadnbutter
When: 08 Feb 15 22:05
Laugh
By:
naydam
When: 08 Feb 15 22:20
Anybody else got an opinion?
By:
akabula
When: 08 Feb 15 22:21
Yes.
By:
naydam
When: 08 Feb 15 22:23
Good.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 08 Feb 15 22:24
i dont the world could cope if the mccanns lost, well not the british media.
By:
bix
When: 22 Mar 15 13:45
Still waiting. Also no news of new suspects being interviewed by British police.
By:
GoBallistic
When: 22 Mar 15 15:08
The trial is just about one party getting richer and one getting poorer so not that important.  If the McCanns lose, doesn't prove they had anything to do with the girl's disappearance, if they win doesn't prove they didn't
By:
naydam
When: 22 Mar 15 15:49
It's about stopping Amaral from getting rich from the proceeds of a book which accuses these people of killing their child WITHOUT A SHRED OF EVIDENCE to support his claims.
The damage is already done to the McCanns and to the search for a little girl because of his foul accusations.
All they can do now is to try to make sure that he doesn't profit from them. He is a sinister man.
By:
guinness2dear
When: 22 Mar 15 16:11
Indeed: Gerry is..
By:
akabula
When: 22 Mar 15 16:13
naydam it was because of their poor parenting that Madeleine is missing, never forget that.
I agree that it's not right for anyone to profit from this btw.
By:
spellingandgrammarchecker
When: 22 Mar 15 16:31
naydam   
22 Mar 15 14:49 
The damage is already done to the McCanns and to the search for a little girl because of his foul accusations.


What damage has been done?

Was the search postponed until AFTER he made his accusations?

Did it affect Gerry McCanns serve in the tennis match he played, the day after the child went missing?

Has it affected their bank balance?

Has Kate been damaged by slowly bringing out 'Cuddle Cat' in EVERY interview, or is so  upset that the sniffer dog found 'Madeleine's favourite toy' after it had been washed, and discarded, in the bottom of a cupboard'?

Why take away her 'favourite toy?'

Why wash it?

Are they both upset that they 'Didn't want a child minder, as Madeleine is a light sleeper and doesn't get on with strangers.'

Are they damaged because the child was 'kidnapped by a stranger' yet despite being a 'light sleeper', not a sound was heard from Madeleine.

Are they damaged because 'she doesn't get on with strangers', yet the staff at the creche where she was put during the day, are the exact same staff who do the child minding at night.

This case is like a toilet pan full of crap - it stinks.
By:
GRANTCKING
When: 22 Mar 15 16:53
^agree
By:
GRANTCKING
When: 22 Mar 15 16:55
did gerry mccan ever explain why he played tennis when his daughter was missing? very strange thing to do
By:
1st time poster
When: 22 Mar 15 17:24
because the bar was shut, Wink
By:
1st time poster
When: 22 Mar 15 17:27
hasnt some top policemen said this week,enoughs ,enough and the 32 detectives on the case should be returned to concentrate on serious crime in this country,not topping their tan up in portugal
By:
GRANTCKING
When: 22 Mar 15 18:09

Mar 22, 2015 -- 11:27AM, 1st time poster wrote:


hasnt some top policemen said this week,enoughs ,enough and the 32 detectives on the case should be returned to concentrate on serious crime in this country,not topping their tan up in portugal


he KNOWS

By:
GoBallistic
When: 22 Mar 15 18:09
naydam    22 Mar 15 14:49 
It's about stopping Amaral from getting rich from the proceeds of a book which accuses these people of killing their child WITHOUT A SHRED OF EVIDENCE to support his claims.

No, it doesn't
By:
Ozymandius
When: 22 Mar 15 18:20
Lets hope they take every penny he has and then some.
By:
GRANTCKING
When: 22 Mar 15 18:35

Mar 22, 2015 -- 12:20PM, Ozymandius wrote:


Lets hope they take every penny he has and then some.


id rather they take every pnny the mccans have to make up for the wasted taxpayers money

By:
akabula
When: 22 Mar 15 20:12
The McCanns have received fortunes in donations to look for Madeleine.
How much of their own cash have they chipped in with? My guess would be nothing.
By:
bix
When: 23 Mar 15 14:59
All very strange. It seems a total lack of hard evidence to suggest what happened that night.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 23 Mar 15 16:48
Len Port

Portugal journalist

Is the Madeleine case to be shelved?


The chairman of the Metropolitan Police Federation, John Tully, is concerned about the Operation Grange investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann but, contrary to press reports, he has not called for the investigation to be closed.

What is in question is the scale of the operation in the light of severe budget cuts and other demands on the Met. But there is no indication that the investigation is to be terminated.

The Daily Star sparked confusion and a flurry of speculation with an “exclusive” under the headline: “Police urged to shelve Maddie hunt as cops needed in UK to battle terrorism.”

The headline inferred it, but the story did not quote Tully or anyone else as saying the investigation should be shelved.

Following up on the Star story the next day, the Daily Mail Online reported that Tully had called for the probe to be axed. 

The Leicester Mercury, the regional paper where Kate and Gerry McCann live, did not mince its words either: “A police union boss has called for London officers to give up the search for Madeleine McCann.”

Other papers, both in the UK and Portugal, churned out the latest fabrication in a mystery that has become a deep-rooted international obsession.

Asked by Portugal Newswatch about what he actually said to  the press, the federation chairman was adamant:

“At no time did I suggest that operation Grange should be closed.”

What Tully was getting at when speaking with the Daily Star was the wisdom of devoting a team of detectives exclusively to the investigation of a crime that had nothing to do with London.

He said he made his comments “in the light of the force having to save £1.4 billion from the budget.”

He added: “The pressure of work and expectation placed on officers, including the unacceptable situation where other officers are carrying in excess of 30 live investigations, is also an important consideration in these circumstances.”

The Metropolitan Police press bureau confirmed there are currently 31 officers working on Operation Grange and that “their sole investigation is the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.”

For now at least, the search for any scrap of solid evidence goes on. DCI Nicola Wall, who took over as head of Operation Grange at the end of last year, was reported in the UK and Portugal media as visiting Lisbon last week to “strengthen links” and for “detailed discussions” with Portuguese prosecutors.

The Week magazine described the talks as “crucial” and said they were designed to “work out next steps” in the investigation. The magazine went on to quote a statement from Kate and Jerry McCann: “It’s very apparent that the determination of the Metropolitan Police remains steadfast.”

Originally requested by Home Secretary Theresa May with the backing of Prime Minister David Cameron, the Met investigation has been ongoing for almost four years at the reported cost to British taxpayers of £10 million. 

There are no indications that the Met are any nearer to solving the mystery. It is not at all clear where the operation is at, or where it is going. All the Met’s press office will say is that “we are not prepared to give a running commentary on this investigation.”

Frustration over the lack of progress is palpable.

The Daily Star accurately quoted Tully as saying it was time to re-focus on what was needed to keep London safe. The Met no longer have the resources to conduct specialist inquiries all over the world, which have nothing to do with London.

“The Met has long been seen as the last resort for investigations others have struggled with elsewhere. But we have made £600m of cuts. We have closed 63 police stations across London. Another £800m of cutbacks are anticipated over the next four years.”

Tully went on to say: “It is surprising to see an inquiry like the McCann investigation ring-fenced. I have heard a few rumblings of discontent about it from lots of sources. When the force is facing a spike in murder investigations it is not surprising there is resentment of significant resources diverted to a case that has no apparent connection with London.”

Officers in London are said to be “bemused” about why they are working round-the-clock solving murders and fighting the threat from Islamic State-inspired jihadists while the Operation Grange detectives are barred from helping.

Meanwhile, almost eight years after Madeleine went missing, a great many people in Portugal as well as the UK and elsewhere are bemused about why the mystery remains unresolved.
By:
GRANTCKING
When: 23 Mar 15 17:04
id like to know what these 31 officers do everyday, think how many times theyve been over everything in this case, must be mind numbing work
By:
bix
When: 23 Mar 15 17:09
Leaving 31 officers on the case smacks of friends in high places.
By:
guinness2dear
When: 23 Mar 15 17:12
There wouldn't have been 10 mill spent (and counting) if there wasn't..
By:
fleetingglimpse
When: 23 Mar 15 19:18
akabula 22 Mar 15 15:13 Joined: 13 Mar 08 | Topic/replies: 10,889 | Blogger: akabula's blog
naydam it was because of their poor parenting that Madeleine is missing, never forget that.
I agree that it's not right for anyone to profit from this btw.



Agree, Both of them should have been dragged to court and charged with neglect, Shocking case
By:
spellingandgrammarchecker
When: 23 Mar 15 20:06
They would have been if they worked at Tesco.
By:
mange
When: 23 Mar 15 20:38
How much do people normally get if a child goes missing ?
By:
bix
When: 24 Mar 15 09:39
Obviously someone knows why so much money and resources are still being thrown at the supposed disappearance of a child and where bad parenting is involved. Someone must have to authorise the expenditure. In these days of public accountability you would think it would be possible to find out who is responsible but don’t hold your breath.
Just another one of the mysteries and anomalies in this strange case.
By:
Facts
When: 24 Mar 15 09:59
One day, the truth will be known.
By:
naydam
When: 24 Mar 15 14:13
Charging them with neglect has absolutely nothing to do with that little girl's rights.
Neglect may have been a relevant factor in  in enabling an offence to take place but that does not diminish the efforts that should be made on Madeleine's behalf!

Stop this stupid 'serves them right' attitude and think of the victim here.
By:
spellingandgrammarchecker
When: 24 Mar 15 14:16
naydam   
22 Mar 15 14:49 
The damage is already done to the McCanns and to the search for a little girl because of his foul accusations.


You didn't respond to the points in my 15:31 post on the 22nd.
By:
spellingandgrammarchecker
When: 24 Mar 15 14:18
naydam   
24 Mar 15 13:13 
Stop this stupid 'serves them right' attitude and think of the victim here.


Sadly, the victim, is long odds on in my book, to be dead.
By:
akabula
When: 24 Mar 15 14:26
It's amazing how many McCann apologists forget Madeleine when they refer to the victim.
The simple truth is that had the McCann's not been so selfish and irresponsible then Madeleine could not have been taken if that is what happened.
By:
naydam
When: 24 Mar 15 18:24
There is no doubt who is the victim here. It is the child. We are well aware that IF...............et cetera.

Spelling I didn't respond to your post as it would have been pointless. This was made obvious by your questions.
By:
Wesdag
When: 24 Mar 15 18:35
Still no evidence that an abduction took place.
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