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Despicable dregs of society committing shameful acts against defenceless animals. Animal Aid to be praised for exposing these practices.
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Should go to prison imo.
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They're little more than animals themselves.
I'd definitely send them to jail and ban them from ever working with animals again. |
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Absolutely sickening scenes - couldn't watch it all I was so disgusted.
What kind of scum could treat poor animals like this? There are a couple of petitions related to these vile practices which should be signed. http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/ |
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This is awful and absolutely indefensible, and prosecutions under the relevant animal cruelty legislation should be bought BUT this kind of abuse probably goes on whether the process is Halal or not. To muddle this up with that legal process actually underplays the seriousness of it by suggesting that that is the cause.
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From what I saw the cutters were getting frustrated because the sheep did not want to go quietly.
If they had to stun them first then this would not happen. Non-stunning is at the root of this evil. |
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I agree. There will be sick nutters in any abattoir. The issue which isn't being addressed is overall animal welfare in relation to kosher and halal and the fact that we don't have a uniform law on animal welfare in what is now claimed is a secular country.
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My father was in the meat trade for 50yrs and he always said takes a certain type of person to be a slaughterman.Lets face it they are hardly likely to be animal lovers halal or not.
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There won't be any serious response by the authorities anytime soon that's for sure. Look how long it's taken for the UK to mount it's FIRST ever prosecution against the Genital Mutilation of young women and girls.
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Leopard - most Halal slaughtering uses some form of stunning (80%+ according to the FSA). The Halal process doesnt allow stunning by cardiac arrest used in non slaughterhouses because it it considered cruel. Without wishing to sound pompous (oh all right then
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Some of the horror stories I heard from old guys who worked in slaughterhouses in the 50s, 60s and 70s about animals being mistreated would shock the lot of you. Been going on since these horror establishments were first opened. I suppose conditions must be better now with the monitoring that goes on, but don`t kid yourselves it will forever continue. After a day or two in the job, killing these animals becomes pretty routine even for a normal person, let alone the hundreds of sadists who work in these establishments.
As for Halal killings, it shouldn`t be allowed in this country or anywhere else. |
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This abuse has nothing to do with Halal. If you actually learn about halal processes, you will see that genuine halal practitioners take better care of the animals than many of our normal abbatoirs do.
These are just sick individuals who deserve to be punished. Don't even bring religion into it. It's time for mandatory monitored CCTV cameras in all abbatoirs to ensure best practice takes place 100% of the time. |
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You have to question as to what kind of workers these are.
Vicious, sadistic b@stards comes to mind! You also have to question their background and suitability for the job. We've talked on this subject before and I was "shot down" as usual, by stating that a vet has to be on hand. This I verified by a family member who has experience of the industry. That being the case, you have to ask why one wasn't present here, or did this only happen when a vet wasn't there, for some reason. |
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Loss of job and licences is not enough. This contemptible behaviour will only improve when the culprits are severely punished.
And as for the manager being unaware of events...bollocks! It is HIS job to know. He should be charged with aiding and abetting these offences. They are ALL fuc king scum! This is totally unnecessary suffering being inflicted for the gratuitous pleasure of a o0ut-and-out tw4t. |
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If you lot didn`t eat meat, there would be no such thing as slaughterhouses.
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naydam...we've talked on this subject before and I was "shot down", as usual, by stating that a vet is supposed to be present at all times.
That I had verified with someone in the business, so I'm going to assume that no vet was present at this time. Either way the manager, who for all we know could also be a vicious psychopath, should be first in the firing line for disciplinary and legal actions. |
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I'm so upset and angry that I seem to have repeated myself!
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More than 4,000 sheep were filmed being killed at Bowood over a three-day period in December.
Can you even begin to imagine that scene? |
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People have the right to eat meat if that is their choice mightymac but the law should be clear and unequivocal on animal welfare and should be applied to all. I can't think of anything more revolting than eating dead animals myself but each to their own.
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What do you think about eating fish EO?
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I also feel people have that right Stewarty and have myself wrestled with it on and off for many years.
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What's happening in this country?
First it was children in Rotherham (and elsewhere) being abused and the authorities turning a blind eye. There's FGM and the authorities take an age to bring just 1 case. There's always been the cruel practice of halal slaughter but the authorities allow it to happen - but vets prof body says it shouldn't be allowed. And now cruelty to animals in halal slaughterhouse. If we're not careful, we'll allow the Mus pigdogs to run the country - oops, I forgot, we do. Well, it's got to stop - but how?? |
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The reason I asked EO was not to take a pop but to genuinely find out your view. I presume you are a Vegan and although I'm not, my diet has changed as I've got older. It has nothing to do with animal rights, (which I fully support) but Ms stew and my self's main source of protein is fish and chicken.
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If you actually learn about halal processes, you will see that genuine halal practitioners take better care of the animals than many of our normal abbatoirs do.
what a crock of shyte |
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upsetting
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I've been out all day and was going to start a thread on this.
Absolutely fukin disgraceful. How these **** can treat animals like this is beyond me. That's why I won't eat meat, because of poor creatures suffering like this. If I knew every animal had a good life and suffered the minimum pain on extinction I might have the odd bacon sarnie but as that will never happen I won't be. If everyone acted the same there'd be no more animal suffering but most people don't care. |
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Although I don't put a label on it as such I'd say pretty much Stewarty as I don't eat dairy products. The residual desires I have from when I did eat meat many years ago is perfectly adequately satisfied by non meat products like Quorn etc which have improved immeasurably over the years. I don't disapprove of people eating meat and will cook meat for family members if they visit but it has to have been reared and dispatched humanely. I think that's the least we owe them.
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The Quorn pasties are delicious. I can't get enough of them. 2 for £2 at Iceland I pay.
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That's all well and good but totally overlooks the misery caused by the short lifespan and dreadful mistreatment of the fungus you are now consuming!
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ffs young man!
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..and anyway, there's sheep abuse - amd there's sheep abuse :two wooly different activities.
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'wholly'
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So why are Jewish and Muslim communities exempt from UK legal requirements to stun animals before slaughter?
The law of the country should surely apply to all residents whether they agree with it or not. According to a recent Tv programme we also have about 80 sharia courts operating in the UK applying sharia law to UK citizens. |
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Ivor I thought your post was a clever play on words - you went and spoilt it by correcting yourself
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We can only bow to a man from Wales on all things sheep related Ivor.
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bix - for right or wrong, and whatever you think about them, there are lots of exemptions from British Law for religious and cultural reasons. The Scottish Sgean or Dirk is the example often trotted out but their are dozens.
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oh, and Crash Helmets for Sikhs, or rather not in this case.
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Yer wouldn't want to bow in front of ivor.
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The first port of call should be to the owners and management.
Start jailing them for allowing the cruelty in the first place. Management should know what's going on and if they don't then they aren't doing there jobs properly. The owners should make sure that their business is law abiding like every other business. The real problem is that we don't treat animal cruelty serious enough in the courts and very few people are jailed for it. |