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Wesdag
23 Jan 15 16:38
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But we don't mind cos they're good mates of ours.

No calls for democracy or free and fair elections but yet we lecture the likes of North Korea, Syria & Zimbabwe.

Oh the irony.
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Report Wesdag January 23, 2015 4:42 PM GMT
Flags being flown at half mast on government in the UK to mark the recent passing of the latest despot.

You couldn't make it up.
Report Wesdag January 23, 2015 4:42 PM GMT
* government buildings
Report moisok January 23, 2015 4:44 PM GMT
Yes that is all very fine and good of you, but where would our arms shares be if we didn't have such upstanding people such as these.
Report HH Sultan Vinegar January 23, 2015 4:49 PM GMT
not only govt. buildings but Westminster Abbey ffs, a place of christian prayer, yet Christian prayer is considered a serious crime in the sh1thole kingdom of Saudi
Report rob_dylan January 23, 2015 4:51 PM GMT
I'm gonna be there this Christmas. Not looking forward to it.
Report HH Sultan Vinegar January 23, 2015 4:53 PM GMT
spent a month there once rob, like being on a different planet and not in a good way.
Report moisok January 23, 2015 4:53 PM GMT
and those nice people also give us lots of cheap oil!!!!
Report scandanavian_haven January 23, 2015 5:10 PM GMT
“For us not to fly at half-mast would be to make a noticeably aggressive comment on the death of the king of a country to which the UK is allied in the fight against Islamic terrorism.

“Nor would it have done anything to support the desperately oppressed Christian communities of the Middle East for whom we pray constantly and publicly.”



walofs
Report Mr Eboue January 23, 2015 5:19 PM GMT
To mark the death of King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia I'm going to go out and get lashed.
Report moisok January 23, 2015 5:24 PM GMT
Now he has died does that mean we run the risk of being run down by loads of hysterical, drunken women drivers, celebrating their freedom under the new king.  Well they will at least be 'under' him !!???
Report Wesdag January 23, 2015 5:28 PM GMT
The prime minister said the king would be remembered for his "commitment to peace and for strengthening understanding between faiths".

Crazy
Report moisok January 23, 2015 5:38 PM GMT
Well, there you go then.  It must be right.

Right wing!!!!!
Report TheBaron January 23, 2015 5:39 PM GMT
What a joke this is. If they didn't have any oil they wouldn't even get into the Queens garden party.
Report Wesdag January 23, 2015 5:42 PM GMT
Now the PM and Charlie are running over to kiss the next despot's arse.
Report HH Sultan Vinegar January 23, 2015 5:56 PM GMT
be a nice touch if they have a woman driving the hearse.
Report TheBaron January 23, 2015 6:03 PM GMT
Our behaviour just highlights where the real power in the world lies and our place in the pecking order.
Report HH Sultan Vinegar January 23, 2015 6:04 PM GMT
one irony is that King Abdullah spent billions on his country's air force, but the only time he got to see Saudi pilots in action was on 9/11
Report Injera January 23, 2015 6:33 PM GMT
Brilliant from HH.

What is the Saudis position on IS etc...? Any chance of doing something?

We await the BBC's grilling of their ambassador...
Report Hank Hill January 23, 2015 6:46 PM GMT
They are the biggest obstacle to peace in the ME. It really is shameful how we ignore what they get up to so we can keep trading arms with them. You couldn't pay me enough to step foot in that place. You have my sympathies Rob. I'm sure the usual anti Israel lot think Saudi being a despotic regime is ok as democracy just doesn't fit in with their culture Laugh
Report Hank Hill January 23, 2015 6:47 PM GMT
Injera - in case you missed the article. The Saudi position on IS is to build a big fkin wall to keep them out lol
Report MR. 69 January 23, 2015 6:55 PM GMT
Currently enjoying a nice beer celebrating the death of that evil a-hole.
Report Alias January 23, 2015 7:03 PM GMT
Oh the irony.

It's not irony, it's the worst example of duplicity you could imagine. A blogger sentenced to 10 years and 1,000 lashes - Saudi Arabia, world capital of barbarism yet so called leaders of the "free" world kowtow to it's "royals".

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/16/saudi-arabia-postpones-flogging-blogger-raif-badawi
Report Alias January 23, 2015 7:06 PM GMT
Currently enjoying a nice beer celebrating the death of that evil a-hole.

No point, there are plenty more to follow him. His old man fathered 30 odd sprogs by 16 wives or thereabouts. Despots living with medieval laws in the 21st century.
Report MR. 69 January 23, 2015 7:14 PM GMT
No point, there are plenty more to follow him. His old man fathered 30 odd sprogs by 16 wives or thereabouts. Despots living with medieval laws in the 21st century.

True, but there is no denying that the world got a tiny bit better when he died Happy
Report Injera January 23, 2015 7:31 PM GMT
Still we wait for a BBC journalist to ask the Muslim Council if they want Sharia Law in the UK, to replicate Saudi Arabia..

Better still, ask Cameron, Milliband and the Queen..
Report padlock January 23, 2015 7:31 PM GMT
Fu(ing ragheads
Report moisok January 23, 2015 7:36 PM GMT
Expect a knock on your door for not supporting the religion of pieces.  You are not taking this seriously.

But you may do in a few decades!!!
Report Burton-Brewers January 23, 2015 8:21 PM GMT
my thoughts exactly padlock
Report Clouseau January 23, 2015 9:00 PM GMT
Have you lot actually thought this through or just getting off on the, oh, so predictable, "It's all about the oil" mantra.

You may have noticed a few things about the region. Would you prefer a completely unstable region?

Sometimes, in the real world, countries have to be pragmatic. Saudi produces about 14% of the world's oil. If you want to keep the lights on and your central heating working and your buses and trains and air-planes and your little run-around, in fact pretty much everything that gets produced in the world, including your computer and your mobile phone, running then best keep them onside.
Report brendanuk1 January 23, 2015 9:03 PM GMT
rather do with 14% less than show any respect for man who locked his daughters in their house for years.

rancid country
Report A_T January 23, 2015 9:04 PM GMT
The Saudis are trying to destroy the US oil industry- they even produced the 9/11 terrorists. Quite why the Americans put up with it is a mystery especially as they are now self-sufficient in oil.
Report Alias January 23, 2015 9:14 PM GMT
Would you prefer a completely unstable region?

Unstable?

You do understand that Saudi Arabia is in the middle east, don't you?
Report Wesdag January 23, 2015 9:16 PM GMT
That's fine Clouseau so long as we don't get disingenuous Western politicians banging on about democracy and human rights when it suits them.

I think if we could turn back the clock, they'd have Saddam back in an instant.
Report Alias January 23, 2015 9:17 PM GMT
^Yup.
Report Hank Hill January 23, 2015 9:30 PM GMT
Clouseau - that means they also don't supply 86% of it...
Report brendanuk1 January 23, 2015 10:08 PM GMT
Saudi Arabia's religious police stopped schoolgirls from leaving a blazing building because they were not wearing correct Islamic dress
According to the al-Eqtisadiah daily, firemen confronted police after they tried to keep the girls inside because they were not wearing the headscarves and abayas (black robes) required by the kingdom's strict interpretation of Islam.

One witness said he saw three policemen "beating young girls to prevent them from leaving the school because they were not wearing the abaya"


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1874471.stm

Jeddah consulate officials described an underground Halloween party, thrown last year by a member of the royal family, which broke all the country's Islamic taboos. Liquor and prostitutes were present in abundance, according to leaked dispatches, behind the heavily-guarded villa gates

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1874471.stm
Report boxingthefox January 23, 2015 10:11 PM GMT
They could eat their young, and we could find a way to justify it.Crazy
Report Clouseau January 23, 2015 10:18 PM GMT
So Hank Hill... Russia produces the same, so that's over a quarter, then there's the other countries in the region, China... pretty soon you're over half the world's oil. That leaves less than 50% but you are then getting to the likes of Algeria and Nigeria. Do I have to go on?

Wesdag... Get real. Countries have vital interests that are necessary to try to protect in order to provide a degree of security, jobs and a standard of living. Politicians have to cosy up to some unpleasant people as a matter of national interest. It is pretty easy poking them with a stick from afar on here for being disingenuous but consider their alternatives.
Report brendanuk1 January 23, 2015 10:21 PM GMT
ISIS have oil to, i hear
Report boxingthefox January 23, 2015 10:27 PM GMT
Clouseau, you have encapsulated everything " about cover your own arse" politics, but have failed to mention self promotion and aggrandisement of the politicians "of the day" involved. Very convienient, OR NOT. How naive are you.
Report moisok January 23, 2015 10:30 PM GMT
Now there is an opportunity.  Could we get that oil under current market prices?  You see there is always good in someone!!!

People like Clouseau are right.  If we could have cornered the slave market in WW11. Lots of poles, jews, etc only too glad to have some work -  think of the profits we could have got with a deal with Mr Hilter from minehead.  You know it makes sense.
Report boxingthefox January 23, 2015 10:33 PM GMT
moisk, I'm not saying that Closeau is wrong, just trying to expand the conversation.
Report moisok January 23, 2015 10:35 PM GMT
That were not directed at you my plumb it were directed at that wassock or whatever his 'andle iz.
Report boxingthefox January 23, 2015 10:36 PM GMT
WinkLaugh
Report moisok January 23, 2015 10:36 PM GMT
clueless  iz wot it woz directed at
learn to bend the knee to the religion of pieces or you will also be in pieces starting with the head  chippity chop - did the french learn it from them??
Report boxingthefox January 23, 2015 10:38 PM GMT
Happy
Report Barry Conway January 23, 2015 10:43 PM GMT
Where does Khalid Abdullah fit into all this. I just love the pink hats he makes his jockeys wear.
Report Velasquez January 23, 2015 10:56 PM GMT
Also Fahd Salman and Ahmed Salman - they were terrific owners.
Report Clouseau January 23, 2015 11:39 PM GMT
To borrow your analogy moisok, during WW2 we could have told the Yanks we didn't need their food and resources and troops because we didn't agree with their brutal segregation of coloured people and Stalin could poke it too. However, sometimes needs must.
Report A_T January 24, 2015 12:18 PM GMT
Farage described Saudi as an ally in the war on terror. Stick to immigrants Nigel Laugh
Report Wesdag January 24, 2015 1:14 PM GMT
If only western politicians would stop putting the likes of North Korea, Syria & Zimbabwe on the naughty step then their sucking up to the new mafia don in Saudi wouldn't be so nauseating.
Report moisok January 24, 2015 2:20 PM GMT
wesdag - you miss my point entirely
It is coming here soon
I mean, it is already here, planted in the nation's bosom, but get used to it because you will have to follow.
Report brendanuk1 January 24, 2015 2:43 PM GMT
Earlier, he had been taken out for a trial in a building on "Chop-Chop Square", the notorious location of Riyadh's public beheadings. The trial lasted 10 minutes. The chief prosecutor was Ibrahim, the man who had been his chief torturer. The judges asked Mr Mitchell if he had confessed to the bombing. He tried to explain that he had been tortured - they dismissed that, and announced his punishment: crucifixion, then partial beheading, after which his body would be left out to rot in public.

Mitchell was anaesthetic technician from Glasgow

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/4196147/They-will-burn-in-hell-for-what-they-have-done-to-me.html
Report Clouseau January 24, 2015 6:41 PM GMT
Wesdag 24 Jan 15 13:14
If only western politicians would stop putting the likes of North Korea, Syria & Zimbabwe on the naughty step then their sucking up to the new mafia don in Saudi wouldn't be so nauseating.


Yeah, let's put the whole world, including ourselves, on the naughty step, shall we... get real!
Report john92 January 24, 2015 7:59 PM GMT
The people that need to 'get real' are the hypocrites who have one rule for one and one rule for another in the name of short term national interest. The blowback from these actions is getting worse and worse and will one day spiral out of control. The current Western strategy will not end well for us.

The alternative as far as the Saudis is concerned is to invest in energy storage but too many people at the top make too much money from oil - yet more short-termism.
Report Wesdag January 25, 2015 12:59 PM GMT
Agreed.

Our so-called well held "principles" have been bought off by the mafia dons in Saudi.
Report macarony January 25, 2015 3:23 PM GMT
Clouseau
23 Jan 15 21:00
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Have you lot actually thought this through or just getting off on the, oh, so predictable, "It's all about the oil" mantra.

You may have noticed a few things about the region. Would you prefer a completely unstable region?

Sometimes, in the real world, countries have to be pragmatic. Saudi produces about 14% of the world's oil. If you want to keep the lights on and your central heating working and your buses and trains and air-planes and your little run-around, in fact pretty much everything that gets produced in the world, including your computer and your mobile phone, running then best keep them onside.


So ehat can you produce from oil that you can't make from coal?
Report HH Sultan Vinegar January 25, 2015 4:37 PM GMT
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