not only govt. buildings but Westminster Abbey ffs, a place of christian prayer, yet Christian prayer is considered a serious crime in the sh1thole kingdom of Saudi
not only govt. buildings but Westminster Abbey ffs, a place of christian prayer, yet Christian prayer is considered a serious crime in the sh1thole kingdom of Saudi
“For us not to fly at half-mast would be to make a noticeably aggressive comment on the death of the king of a country to which the UK is allied in the fight against Islamic terrorism.
“Nor would it have done anything to support the desperately oppressed Christian communities of the Middle East for whom we pray constantly and publicly.”
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“For us not to fly at half-mast would be to make a noticeably aggressive comment on the death of the king of a country to which the UK is allied in the fight against Islamic terrorism.“Nor would it have done anything to support the desperately op
Now he has died does that mean we run the risk of being run down by loads of hysterical, drunken women drivers, celebrating their freedom under the new king. Well they will at least be 'under' him !!???
Now he has died does that mean we run the risk of being run down by loads of hysterical, drunken women drivers, celebrating their freedom under the new king. Well they will at least be 'under' him !!???
They are the biggest obstacle to peace in the ME. It really is shameful how we ignore what they get up to so we can keep trading arms with them. You couldn't pay me enough to step foot in that place. You have my sympathies Rob. I'm sure the usual anti Israel lot think Saudi being a despotic regime is ok as democracy just doesn't fit in with their culture
They are the biggest obstacle to peace in the ME. It really is shameful how we ignore what they get up to so we can keep trading arms with them. You couldn't pay me enough to step foot in that place. You have my sympathies Rob. I'm sure the usual ant
It's not irony, it's the worst example of duplicity you could imagine. A blogger sentenced to 10 years and 1,000 lashes - Saudi Arabia, world capital of barbarism yet so called leaders of the "free" world kowtow to it's "royals".
Oh the irony. It's not irony, it's the worst example of duplicity you could imagine. A blogger sentenced to 10 years and 1,000 lashes - Saudi Arabia, world capital of barbarism yet so called leaders of the "free" world kowtow to it's "royals".http://
Currently enjoying a nice beer celebrating the death of that evil a-hole.
No point, there are plenty more to follow him. His old man fathered 30 odd sprogs by 16 wives or thereabouts. Despots living with medieval laws in the 21st century.
Currently enjoying a nice beer celebrating the death of that evil a-hole. No point, there are plenty more to follow him. His old man fathered 30 odd sprogs by 16 wives or thereabouts. Despots living with medieval laws in the 21st century.
No point, there are plenty more to follow him. His old man fathered 30 odd sprogs by 16 wives or thereabouts. Despots living with medieval laws in the 21st century.
True, but there is no denying that the world got a tiny bit better when he died
No point, there are plenty more to follow him. His old man fathered 30 odd sprogs by 16 wives or thereabouts. Despots living with medieval laws in the 21st century.True, but there is no denying that the world got a tiny bit better when he died
Still we wait for a BBC journalist to ask the Muslim Council if they want Sharia Law in the UK, to replicate Saudi Arabia..
Better still, ask Cameron, Milliband and the Queen..
Still we wait for a BBC journalist to ask the Muslim Council if they want Sharia Law in the UK, to replicate Saudi Arabia..Better still, ask Cameron, Milliband and the Queen..
Have you lot actually thought this through or just getting off on the, oh, so predictable, "It's all about the oil" mantra.
You may have noticed a few things about the region. Would you prefer a completely unstable region?
Sometimes, in the real world, countries have to be pragmatic. Saudi produces about 14% of the world's oil. If you want to keep the lights on and your central heating working and your buses and trains and air-planes and your little run-around, in fact pretty much everything that gets produced in the world, including your computer and your mobile phone, running then best keep them onside.
Have you lot actually thought this through or just getting off on the, oh, so predictable, "It's all about the oil" mantra.You may have noticed a few things about the region. Would you prefer a completely unstable region? Sometimes, in the real world
The Saudis are trying to destroy the US oil industry- they even produced the 9/11 terrorists. Quite why the Americans put up with it is a mystery especially as they are now self-sufficient in oil.
The Saudis are trying to destroy the US oil industry- they even produced the 9/11 terrorists. Quite why the Americans put up with it is a mystery especially as they are now self-sufficient in oil.
That's fine Clouseau so long as we don't get disingenuous Western politicians banging on about democracy and human rights when it suits them.
I think if we could turn back the clock, they'd have Saddam back in an instant.
That's fine Clouseau so long as we don't get disingenuous Western politicians banging on about democracy and human rights when it suits them. I think if we could turn back the clock, they'd have Saddam back in an instant.
Saudi Arabia's religious police stopped schoolgirls from leaving a blazing building because they were not wearing correct Islamic dress According to the al-Eqtisadiah daily, firemen confronted police after they tried to keep the girls inside because they were not wearing the headscarves and abayas (black robes) required by the kingdom's strict interpretation of Islam.
One witness said he saw three policemen "beating young girls to prevent them from leaving the school because they were not wearing the abaya"
Jeddah consulate officials described an underground Halloween party, thrown last year by a member of the royal family, which broke all the country's Islamic taboos. Liquor and prostitutes were present in abundance, according to leaked dispatches, behind the heavily-guarded villa gates
Saudi Arabia's religious police stopped schoolgirls from leaving a blazing building because they were not wearing correct Islamic dressAccording to the al-Eqtisadiah daily, firemen confronted police after they tried to keep the girls inside because t
So Hank Hill... Russia produces the same, so that's over a quarter, then there's the other countries in the region, China... pretty soon you're over half the world's oil. That leaves less than 50% but you are then getting to the likes of Algeria and Nigeria. Do I have to go on?
Wesdag... Get real. Countries have vital interests that are necessary to try to protect in order to provide a degree of security, jobs and a standard of living. Politicians have to cosy up to some unpleasant people as a matter of national interest. It is pretty easy poking them with a stick from afar on here for being disingenuous but consider their alternatives.
So Hank Hill... Russia produces the same, so that's over a quarter, then there's the other countries in the region, China... pretty soon you're over half the world's oil. That leaves less than 50% but you are then getting to the likes of Algeria and
Clouseau, you have encapsulated everything " about cover your own arse" politics, but have failed to mention self promotion and aggrandisement of the politicians "of the day" involved. Very convienient, OR NOT. How naive are you.
Clouseau, you have encapsulated everything " about cover your own arse" politics, but have failed to mention self promotion and aggrandisement of the politicians "of the day" involved. Very convienient, OR NOT. How naive are you.
Now there is an opportunity. Could we get that oil under current market prices? You see there is always good in someone!!!
People like Clouseau are right. If we could have cornered the slave market in WW11. Lots of poles, jews, etc only too glad to have some work - think of the profits we could have got with a deal with Mr Hilter from minehead. You know it makes sense.
Now there is an opportunity. Could we get that oil under current market prices? You see there is always good in someone!!!People like Clouseau are right. If we could have cornered the slave market in WW11. Lots of poles, jews, etc only too glad to
clueless iz wot it woz directed at learn to bend the knee to the religion of pieces or you will also be in pieces starting with the head chippity chop - did the french learn it from them??
clueless iz wot it woz directed atlearn to bend the knee to the religion of pieces or you will also be in pieces starting with the head chippity chop - did the french learn it from them??
To borrow your analogy moisok, during WW2 we could have told the Yanks we didn't need their food and resources and troops because we didn't agree with their brutal segregation of coloured people and Stalin could poke it too. However, sometimes needs must.
To borrow your analogy moisok, during WW2 we could have told the Yanks we didn't need their food and resources and troops because we didn't agree with their brutal segregation of coloured people and Stalin could poke it too. However, sometimes needs
If only western politicians would stop putting the likes of North Korea, Syria & Zimbabwe on the naughty step then their sucking up to the new mafia don in Saudi wouldn't be so nauseating.
If only western politicians would stop putting the likes of North Korea, Syria & Zimbabwe on the naughty step then their sucking up to the new mafia don in Saudi wouldn't be so nauseating.
wesdag - you miss my point entirely It is coming here soon I mean, it is already here, planted in the nation's bosom, but get used to it because you will have to follow.
wesdag - you miss my point entirelyIt is coming here soonI mean, it is already here, planted in the nation's bosom, but get used to it because you will have to follow.
Earlier, he had been taken out for a trial in a building on "Chop-Chop Square", the notorious location of Riyadh's public beheadings. The trial lasted 10 minutes. The chief prosecutor was Ibrahim, the man who had been his chief torturer. The judges asked Mr Mitchell if he had confessed to the bombing. He tried to explain that he had been tortured - they dismissed that, and announced his punishment: crucifixion, then partial beheading, after which his body would be left out to rot in public.
Earlier, he had been taken out for a trial in a building on "Chop-Chop Square", the notorious location of Riyadh's public beheadings. The trial lasted 10 minutes. The chief prosecutor was Ibrahim, the man who had been his chief torturer. The judges a
Wesdag 24 Jan 15 13:14 If only western politicians would stop putting the likes of North Korea, Syria & Zimbabwe on the naughty step then their sucking up to the new mafia don in Saudi wouldn't be so nauseating.
Yeah, let's put the whole world, including ourselves, on the naughty step, shall we... get real!
Wesdag 24 Jan 15 13:14 If only western politicians would stop putting the likes of North Korea, Syria & Zimbabwe on the naughty step then their sucking up to the new mafia don in Saudi wouldn't be so nauseating.Yeah, let's put the whole world, includ
The people that need to 'get real' are the hypocrites who have one rule for one and one rule for another in the name of short term national interest. The blowback from these actions is getting worse and worse and will one day spiral out of control. The current Western strategy will not end well for us.
The alternative as far as the Saudis is concerned is to invest in energy storage but too many people at the top make too much money from oil - yet more short-termism.
The people that need to 'get real' are the hypocrites who have one rule for one and one rule for another in the name of short term national interest. The blowback from these actions is getting worse and worse and will one day spiral out of control. T
Clouseau 23 Jan 15 21:00 Joined: 03 Jan 11 | Topic/replies: 1,236 | Blogger: Clouseau's blog Have you lot actually thought this through or just getting off on the, oh, so predictable, "It's all about the oil" mantra.
You may have noticed a few things about the region. Would you prefer a completely unstable region?
Sometimes, in the real world, countries have to be pragmatic. Saudi produces about 14% of the world's oil. If you want to keep the lights on and your central heating working and your buses and trains and air-planes and your little run-around, in fact pretty much everything that gets produced in the world, including your computer and your mobile phone, running then best keep them onside.
So ehat can you produce from oil that you can't make from coal?
Clouseau23 Jan 15 21:00Joined:03 Jan 11| Topic/replies: 1,236 | Blogger: Clouseau's blogHave you lot actually thought this through or just getting off on the, oh, so predictable, "It's all about the oil" mantra.You may have noticed a few things about