WIKI have already got pages up on the dead cartoonists.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Wolinski
The above's daughter posted words before that cut me to the bone....
"Daddy's dead - not Wolinski"
WIKI have already got pages up on the dead cartoonists.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_WolinskiThe above's daughter posted words before that cut me to the bone...."Daddy's dead - not Wolinski"
Ovalman. 07 Jan 15 20:23 Kweev, we'll have to stop throwing bricks at each other at some stage and throw them at these bastards. I'm sure of it.
And it's Londonderry Michael
Not on the side of the water I was living!
(As an aside, people here seem to have forgotten that Christians used to blow each other to pieces in the UK not so very long ago. There are NO 'religions of peace' in my book, just religions of bullsh!t. Apologies to Buddhists!)
Ovalman. 07 Jan 15 20:23 Kweev, we'll have to stop throwing bricks at each other at some stage and throw them at these bastards. I'm sure of it.And it's Londonderry MichaelNot on the side of the water I was living!(As an aside, people here seem
Joke - read what Buddhists did to Sadhu Sundar Singh...and many Buddhist monks in Scotland charged with molestation...
"Thai monk SLAPS English-speaking man on a train 'three times' " Youtube.
Read Victor Trimondi about violence and Buddhism.
Joke - read what Buddhists did to Sadhu Sundar Singh...and many Buddhist monks in Scotland charged with molestation..."Thai monk SLAPS English-speaking man on a train 'three times' " Youtube.Read Victor Trimondi about violence and Buddhism.
“A Mohammedan preacher went to preach Islam in Scandinavia. There the people asked him what they would have to do in the event of their becoming Muslims. Amongst the five duties prescribed, he mentioned the month’s fast when they would have to fast from sunset but feast during the night. They laughed and told him that Mohammedanism was evidently not meant for that part of the world where at one time of the year there is no night.” SADHU SUNDAR SINGH.
“A Mohammedan preacher went to preach Islam in Scandinavia. There the people asked him what they would have to do in the event of their becoming Muslims. Amongst the five duties prescribed, he mentioned the month’s fast when they would have to fa
I was interested in Burton Brewers' post about the percentage of muslims in various countries and its effect on things.
I would dispute, howver, his figure of only 2.7% in the United Kingdom. My sources suggest that the 2011 census showed 4.8% of the British population were muslim and, more worrying still, a massive 9.1% of British children under five were muslim.
I was interested in Burton Brewers' post about the percentage of muslims in various countries and its effect on things.I would dispute, howver, his figure of only 2.7% in the United Kingdom. My sources suggest that the 2011 census showed 4.8% of the
I truly worry about these stats for my children's sake. I think we need to start putting measures in place to start reversing this trend very very soon.
I truly worry about these stats for my children's sake. I think we need to start putting measures in place to start reversing this trend very very soon.
Hamyd Mourad. Apparently he went to the police after seeing his name in the media. His classmates are saying he was in school with them during the attack so it looks like he was either misidentified or he shares a name with one of the attackers.
Hamyd Mourad. Apparently he went to the police after seeing his name in the media. His classmates are saying he was in school with them during the attack so it looks like he was either misidentified or he shares a name with one of the attackers.
There's 2 ways to deal with Muslim terrorists. 1. The Muslim community could go on the hunt and purge itself of these evil people. I can't see this happening any time soon, they are enjoying the best of both worlds, living in the comfort of the west while people acting in the name of Islam stick it to the infidels.
2. We really need to hit these people where it hurts. The best way to do this is through deportations, not just for them but also there families, they themselves might not care what happens them but its different when what you do impacts on your family.
There's 2 ways to deal with Muslim terrorists.1. The Muslim community could go on the hunt and purge itself of these evil people. I can't see this happening any time soon, they are enjoying the best of both worlds, living in the comfort of the west w
A policewoman and a city employee are in critical condition after a man fired on them with an automatic rifle outside Paris, police say.
No link has yet been established with Wednesday's deadly attack, AFP reports.
A policewoman and a city employee are in critical condition after a man fired on them with an automatic rifle outside Paris, police say. No link has yet been established with Wednesday's deadly attack, AFP reports.
I was jesting with you and Kweeven, my daughter goes to Uni in the city and calls it Derry. The troubles are mostly long gone us but there are still many from both sides that cling to the past. Events like this show the real folly of fighting each other when there are people prepared to kill and die over a 1300 year old mad man.
Not on the side of the water I was living!I was jesting with you and Kweeven, my daughter goes to Uni in the city and calls it Derry. The troubles are mostly long gone us but there are still many from both sides that cling to the past. Events like th
The story so far: 12 people, including two policemen, have been murdered at the offices of French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo by two hooded men wielding AK47s. In 2011 the magazine was firebombed after running a caricature of the Prophet Muhammad. Charlie Hebdo’s most recent tweet, before the latest attack, was a cartoon featuring the leader of Islamic State, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.
Here’s what will happen next.
1. French authorities will urge the public not to jump to any unhelpful conclusions about the identity and motivation of the killers.
2. Politicians, police chiefs and mainstream media reports will urge restraint over what is clearly an inexplicable rogue incident which may have nothing whatsoever to do with the Religion of Peace.
3. Extensive – and largely fruitless – efforts will be made to find Muslim community leaders prepared to speak out against the incident, in the unlikely event that it proves that the killers may have had Islamist sympathies.
4. Liberal commentators will take pains to draw a distinction between Islamism and Islam, noting that the former is a malign perversion of the latter which (apparently) explicitly forbids the murder of innocents.
5. Warming to this theme – and once the bodies are sufficiently cold, so as not to offend anyone’s good taste – one or two braver liberal commentators will suggest that while, of course, they wholly condemn all such acts of violence, it’s nevertheless the case that one or two of Charlie Hebdo’s editorials and cartoons could be quite needlessly provocative and that their contribution to the current climate of Islamophobia may have been responsible for heightening religious tensions in the broader culture. There have to be limits to free speech, after all. You can’t shout fire in a crowded theatre.
6. The BBC, The Guardian and their fellow travellers will despatch reporters to Bradford, Luton, Rotherham, Birmingham, Tower Hamlets etc with a view to proving that Islamophobic incidents have increased as a result of unfortunate events in Paris. Campaign organisation Tell Mama will confirm that this has been the case, citing the fact that there have been lots of angry tweets on Twitter.
7. On a BBC youth debate programme the audience will be canvassed as to their views on the cause of the increased tensions. To a man – and regardless of whether or not they are themselves Muslim – they will blame only two factors: “foreign policy” and “Islamophobia.” A young, attractive, female Muslim on the panel will win massive applause from the audience by dissociating herself and her co-religionists from the actions of the killers, explaining that though they may have thought they were acting in the name of Islam they weren’t, actually, because they just weren’t. So that’s OK then.
8. Politicians will bravely call for more money, much more money, to be spent on outreach programmes to the Muslim community in order to prevent further radicalisation. Later, it will be discovered that the Community Leaders who have been selected to participate in these programmes are not moderates who have much sympathy with the idea of cultural cohesion and who have only identified themselves as “community leaders” by dint of their vociferousness.
9. The Prime Minister will make a rousing speech declaring that “The terrorists will never be allowed to win.” To prevent future incidents, new laws will be passed forbidding newspapers and magazines from running satirical articles or cartoons which may offend religious sensibilities. These laws, however, will be entirely unnecessary: from now on, no one will dare.
10. Within a month, the incident will largely be forgotten. Just like the Mumbai and Nairobi massacres were. Sophisticated commentators will recognise that though, of course what happened was pretty frightful and all that, it’s important to appreciate that your chances of being killed in a terrorist incident are way smaller than being, say, run over by a bus and that actually all we’re doing when we overreact to such incidents is placing undue emphasis on what are, after all, just rogue criminal acts and not the end of civilisation.
CHARLIE HEBDO MASSACRE: HOW THE WEST WILL RESPONDThe story so far: 12 people, including two policemen, have been murdered at the offices of French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo by two hooded men wielding AK47s. In 2011 the magazine was firebombed
I was interested in Burton Brewers' post about the percentage of muslims in various countries and its effect on things.
I would dispute, howver, his figure of only 2.7% in the United Kingdom. My sources suggest that the 2011 census showed 4.8% of the British population were muslim and, more worrying still, a massive 9.1% of British children under five were muslim.
I was interested in Burton Brewers' post about the percentage of muslims in various countries and its effect on things.I would dispute, howver, his figure of only 2.7% in the United Kingdom. My sources suggest that the 2011 census showed 4.8% of the
A gunman has killed a policewoman in Paris, a day after suspected Islamists killed 12 people at the office of a satirical magazine.
A second person was seriously injured in the attack in the southern suburb of Montrouge, after which the gunman fled.
It is unclear of the incident is related to the Charlie Hebdo massacre, which traumatised France.
Police have made seven arrests in the hunt for two brothers, the main suspects,. A third has surrendered.
Arrest warrants were issued for Cherif and Said Kouachi, said to be "armed and dangerous". France has declared national mourning for the victims of the Charlie Hebdo attack.
A gunman has killed a policewoman in Paris, a day after suspected Islamists killed 12 people at the office of a satirical magazine.A second person was seriously injured in the attack in the southern suburb of Montrouge, after which the gunman fled.It
Name and details released of the poor policeman shot on the side of the street yesterday that was caught on camera.. RIP
The 42-year-old Ahmed Merabet was shot at point-blank range despite apparently pleading for mercy, and his death was tragically caught on camera. Merabet, a Muslim by faith, was serving as a patrolman in the 11th arrondissement, which is the district where Charlie Hebdo’s office is located in Paris
Name and details released of the poor policeman shot on the side of the street yesterday that was caught on camera.. RIPThe 42-year-old Ahmed Merabet was shot at point-blank range despite apparently pleading for mercy, and his death was tragically ca
Latest rumour is they are on their way to Calais to claim asylum in UK on the back of a wagon. We couldnt deport them to a country they may be punished in !
Latest rumour is they are on their way to Calais to claim asylum in UK on the back of a wagon. We couldnt deport them to a country they may be punished in !
Daft Britain would assuredly welcome the absconding murderers with open arms. An army of public sector employees and taxpayer-funded chancer lawyers would soon ensure they wouldn't be deported anywhere fast.
Daft Britain would assuredly welcome the absconding murderers with open arms. An army of public sector employees and taxpayer-funded chancer lawyers would soon ensure they wouldn't be deported anywhere fast.
Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg has accused Nigel Farage of trying to "make political points" after the shootings in Paris which killed 12 people.
The UKIP leader said the attack by suspected Islamists on satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo on Wednesday was "truly horrific".
He added, on Channel 4 News, it raised questions about what he called a "gross policy of multiculturalism".
Mr Clegg said he was "firmly grabbing the wrong end of the stick."
Mr Farage said there was a "very strong argument" that the events were a result of "a fifth column" which he said lived in Paris and London.
'Encouraged division' He said: "We've got people living in these countries, holding our passports, who hate us.
"Luckily their numbers are very, very small but it does make one question the whole really gross attempt at encouraged division within society that we have had in the past few decades in the name of multiculturalism."
. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-30726491
good old NigeDeputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg has accused Nigel Farage of trying to "make political points" after the shootings in Paris which killed 12 people.The UKIP leader said the attack by suspected Islamists on satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo
Sort of hard to argue with Nigel's points when Labour openly admitted the mass immigration was to "rub the rights nose in it" Shame what certain parts of London has become
Sort of hard to argue with Nigel's points when Labour openly admitted the mass immigration was to "rub the rights nose in it" Shame what certain parts of London has become
I'll be voting for him, or at least his party, next time around. He's the only mainstream political leader who seems to be in touch with the wishes and concerns of people like me.
I'll be voting for him, or at least his party, next time around. He's the only mainstream political leader who seems to be in touch with the wishes and concerns of people like me.
Exactly Tallywagger. I have children and, living in a big city, this issue genuinely worries me. I want our politicians to stop prevaricating, forget about all the PC nonsense and actually do something about it. UKIP seems the best bet for me.
Exactly Tallywagger. I have children and, living in a big city, this issue genuinely worries me. I want our politicians to stop prevaricating, forget about all the PC nonsense and actually do something about it. UKIP seems the best bet for me.
Going back to the issue of racism MH mentioned. The most racist people are often the multiculturalist supporters, in my view they actively and vociferously discriminate against people on grounds of race all the time.
Going back to the issue of racism MH mentioned. The most racist people are often the multiculturalist supporters, in my view they actively and vociferously discriminate against people on grounds of race all the time.
They all walk on eggshells, absolutely terrified of a muslim backlash.
A case in point today when the UK press should have posted cartoons taking the mick out of Islam all over their papers (solidarity) What do they do? Shat themselves, that's what..
They all walk on eggshells, absolutely terrified of a muslim backlash.A case in point today when the UK press should have posted cartoons taking the mick out of Islam all over their papers (solidarity) What do they do? Shat themselves, that's what..
That's true Guinness. In their defence I suspect that they are genuinely scared, and who could blame them? A truly sorry state of affairs. I'm as angry and frustrated as the next man, but what can we do?
That's true Guinness. In their defence I suspect that they are genuinely scared, and who could blame them? A truly sorry state of affairs. I'm as angry and frustrated as the next man, but what can we do?
This is what happens when you offer a policy of Appeasement towards the extremists for the last 30 years. The Yorkshire Miners and even the Countryside Alliance protesters suffered a harder police response than the wannabe terrorists have experienced.
This is what happens when you offer a policy of Appeasement towards the extremists for the last 30 years. The Yorkshire Miners and even the Countryside Alliance protesters suffered a harder police response than the wannabe terrorists have experience
A newspaper editor must consider not just his own skin, but those of his staff and families as well. I wish all the tabloids would collectively organise a massive show of solidarity as Guinness suggested, but can hardly pass blame that they don't.
A newspaper editor must consider not just his own skin, but those of his staff and families as well. I wish all the tabloids would collectively organise a massive show of solidarity as Guinness suggested, but can hardly pass blame that they don't.
One thing I know for certain, I'm not as racist as most muslims. I live in Liverpool and in my experience most muslims are extremely and openly racist.
One thing I know for certain, I'm not as racist as most muslims. I live in Liverpool and in my experience most muslims are extremely and openly racist.
Torquemada: Sometimes it's best to ignite a flame to extinguish a fire..
Instead of the press and liberallists everywhere going on about Australia's "I'll ride with you" bandwagon, etc etc, how about a realistic wiew of Islam and the quietness of it's various leaders in the Middle East? Maybe if there is a backlash against them they will finally start telling it how it really is, or at least engage and or condemn these atrocities..
Torquemada: Sometimes it's best to ignite a flame to extinguish a fire..Instead of the press and liberallists everywhere going on about Australia's "I'll ride with you" bandwagon, etc etc, how about a realistic wiew of Islam and the quietness of it's
Come on if a small country like Denmark can stand up to them then so should we. What happened to the plucky little island that took on the world and won?
Come on if a small country like Denmark can stand up to them then so should we. What happened to the plucky little island that took on the world and won?
I agree with both of you Guinness and Macarony, just saying it must be hard when you and your families safety is at risk. We're largely anonymous on here so it's easy to be brave.
I agree with both of you Guinness and Macarony, just saying it must be hard when you and your families safety is at risk. We're largely anonymous on here so it's easy to be brave.
Government should declare that everyone should draw a picture of Mohammed and walk down the street with it, maybe everday for the next month.....they will seeth and implode....job done !
Government should declare that everyone should draw a picture of Mohammed and walk down the street with it, maybe everday for the next month.....they will seeth and implode....job done !
That's true, too, Guinness. But surely you agree with me. I don't know if you have a wife and kids, or live in a city like me, but if you did I would be very surprised if you were prepared to post up a cartoon of Muhammad in your window.
That's true, too, Guinness. But surely you agree with me. I don't know if you have a wife and kids, or live in a city like me, but if you did I would be very surprised if you were prepared to post up a cartoon of Muhammad in your window.
So, the 1 arrested last night was in school at the time of the murders, ( lee Harvey Oswald in the cinema ) and the other 2 are currently sightseeing around France in a Renault Clio?
So, the 1 arrested last night was in school at the time of the murders, ( lee Harvey Oswald in the cinema ) and the other 2 are currently sightseeing around France in a Renault Clio?
I'm very anti islam. I don't condone violence against mosques obviously, but I would like to see the banning of mosque building in the future and a process started by which the existing ones begin to be removed.
I'm very anti islam. I don't condone violence against mosques obviously, but I would like to see the banning of mosque building in the future and a process started by which the existing ones begin to be removed.
It needs to get to a wider audience than my front window, Torquemada..
That's where the press and Governments come in, and why Jihadists for some reason use it far more successfully than the majority of the Western press ever will..
It needs to get to a wider audience than my front window, Torquemada..That's where the press and Governments come in, and why Jihadists for some reason use it far more successfully than the majority of the Western press ever will..
guinness2dear 08 Jan 15 19:43 CAIR doesn't like the word Islamist, btw..
I wonder when Heysoos as a name, will be banned?
It is.
In England you can't name your child Adolf or Jesus.
You can call him it, but you can't have it on his birth certificate.
guinness2dear 08 Jan 15 19:43 CAIR doesn't like the word Islamist, btw..I wonder when Heysoos as a name, will be banned?It is.In England you can't name your child Adolf or Jesus. You can call him it, but you can't have it on his birth certificat
Said to be surrounded in a forest 50 miles outside Paris.
Let's hope the French special services marksmen are better shots than the British police marksmen who nabbed the Lee Rigby scumbag coonts, and they end up splattered all over the place.
Said to be surrounded in a forest 50 miles outside Paris. Let's hope the French special services marksmen are better shots than the British police marksmen who nabbed the Lee Rigby scumbag coonts, and they end up splattered all over the place.
Oh you horrible nazi taxi. Shirley they should have a fair trial before they execute them. What about their human rights. Just like the human rights of the dozen. Or should I say the human remains!!!!
Oh you horrible nazi taxi. Shirley they should have a fair trial before they execute them.What about their human rights. Just like the human rights of the dozen. Or should I say the human remains!!!!
ps all they can bleat on about is the anti muslim back lash, reasons for poor boys murdering 12 humans or railing against Islamaphobia. Penn and Barage seem to be the only people anywhere near the truth.
ps all they can bleat on about is the anti muslim back lash, reasons for poor boys murdering 12 humans or railing against Islamaphobia.Penn and Barage seem to be the only people anywhere near the truth.
My mate was suppose to be in the QT audience, but they said that he MUST NOT demonise or question the Muslim faith in any way, so he decided not to go.....How is that fair ????
My mate was suppose to be in the QT audience, but they said that he MUST NOT demonise or question the Muslim faith in any way, so he decided not to go.....How is that fair ????