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Could any member of the kangaroo lynching court also list exactly which jobs he is allowed to do that would be ok with them, and list the crimes that they don't feel are egregious enough to have to change vocation, since they are writing the laws now.
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Could any member of the kangaroo lynching court also list exactly which jobs he is allowed to do that would be ok with them, and list the crimes that they don't feel are egregious enough to have to change vocation, since they are writing the laws now.
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Apparently he doesn't have one.
Country is full of hypocrites. Ed Milliband for one. |
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There are many occupations to which you wouldn't be permitted to return having committed a serious crime.
On the other hand, I don't recall such an outcry when Leslie Grantham (a convicted murderer) was in 'EastEnfers'. |
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That rich fare dodger was barred from working in the City recently.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-30475232 |
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It's not a point of law. Accountants, lawyers and doctors wouldn't be able to return to their jobs after committing a criminal offence.
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Is football one of them?
Also, I seem to hear much made of the fact that its all down to the fact he doesn't show remorse. Does an individual have to? Once convicted does that also mean they don't have right to appeal? What if a person is innocent, do they have to believe they are guilty as part of the sentence? Then what of miscarriages of justice, do these no longer exist? The baying hand wringers suggest that the conviction should be trusted as judgement on him, but decide that after the sentencing of that adjudication the court hasn't completed the job, their opinions being more important seemingly. |
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...it's a case of the employer and/or professional body saying you're not a fit and proper person
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Could he be a Therapist...he'd be perfect !
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....which hasn't been made by the FA, so the rules are being made by the crowds instead
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Dusty,
imho, the point is that whether or not he has the right to return to football, clubs have a right not to employ him |
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Couldn't he be a Therapist? (correction)
He'd be perfect ! |
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Wisdom of Crowds...they know best !
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But the clubs want to employ him it seems, its the peer pressure of the baying mob that doesn't what him employed and the FA hasn't deemed him unworthy.
So where are we? |
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Agree with you entirely dustbin.
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You have a point there dusty. It also seems that the sponsors have threatened to pull out.
But if that's the fans and sponsors are leaning, the club has to listen. |
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*the way
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The 20000 fans at Oldham's last home game don't want him...
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I suspect that the majority of people would be willing now to let him get on with his life especially since the circumstances of the rape were a bit dubious,but the anti evans groups are more vociferous & politicised giving the opposite impression
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It's not a point of law. Accountants, lawyers and doctors wouldn't be able to return to their jobs after committing a criminal offence.
I think plenty of drink-driving offenders, for example, are not prevented from carrying on in the professions for which they qualified. Their professional bodies would neither have the power nor the wish to bar them from their means of earning a living. |
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Any club would be mad to go near him. Sponsors will run a mile. Oppo crowds will persecute him and have loads of songs all lined up.
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I thought the FA stated they would support him if he showed remorse for his crime. However, he wont accept he is guilty.
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Mob hysteria being whipped up. He did the time set by the court.
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Not that simple EO. Football is unlike most occupations. He would surely be a distraction to the whole team with rival fans abusing the whole club and what about sponsors.
Also he was found guilty but refuses to accept he did anything wrong. |
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rob_dylan 05 Jan 15 17:33
Any club would be mad to go near him. Sponsors will run a mile. Oppo crowds will persecute him and have loads of songs all lined up. The same could have been said for Lee Hughes or Luke McCormick. |
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Sponsors should be told to f*ck off. Everybody knows football has been ruined by money anyway!
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paddletoe 05 Jan 15 17:36
Also he was found guilty but refuses to accept he did anything wrong. Just because you've been found guilty doesn't mean you should accept the verdict, does it? Guildford Four, Birmingham Six, Bridgewater Four, Stefan Kiszko etc. |
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He is guilty until he appeals
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These are supposedly "Key and Undisputed Facts" relating to the whole incident. I guess they might have to be taken with a pinch of salt given that they appear on a website devoted to supporting Evans' case.
http://www.chedevans.com/key-and-undisputed-facts If the facts are even broadly correct, they put neither Ched Evans, Clayton Donaldson nor "the complainant" in a very good light. They also suggest that thousands of young men should be locked up for rape as a result of their sordid activities on every Friday and Saturday. |
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Exactly, Arley. Little sympathy for Evans but the lynch mob need stringing up!
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What happens when he wins his appeal against the conviction?
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He will marry your daughter.
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He doesn't need to. Some stupid millionaire's even more stupid daughter has already snagged him.
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Nothing to do with a "right to work". Evans' conviction bars him from certain jobs but playing for a football club is not one of them. Problem is noone wants to give him a job.
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Well if he was not guilty, I have no problem with that.
My daughter is free to make her own life choices. From my understanding of the case, it was a very unsafe verdict. The complainent had no recollection of events whatsoever. Yet one footballer is found guilty and the other not guilty! |
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They DO want to give him a job, AT. They're being prevented by ****s on Twitter, and C&G Plumbing Services threaten to withdraw sponsorship.
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The footballer that was found guilty was with her when she was less inebriated than the one that walked free
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imho, the point is that whether or not he has the right to return to football, clubs have a right not to employ him
That's it exactly, no one is denying his right to earn his living as a footballer. They just don't want to employ him. |
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They both had sex with her.
They say it was consensual and she says she doesn't remember. So how is one not guilty and one guilty? |
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Not possible to trust people or the courts now. There will come a time when it will be necessary to record everything that you say and do daily and to keep this record. This will be the only assurance, you can say this is what happened on any given day.
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If no team wanted to employ him, this wouldn't be an issue. No surprise that Dr Crippen doesn't realise this.
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