Happy New Year to the Inner Circle

Likewise, from The Squirrel who eats his nuts at midnight.

ditto

A Very Happy 2015 to you and yours CMAT

glad to see the back of 2014, after a very good 2013 i must
of done 25k this year, mainly p!ssed on casino self inflicted stupidity realy.

2015

Nice chatting with you over the past year taxi.

Ron don't know how to beat roulette, it has a negative expectancy IE, zero, and no amount of staking variation can turn a negative expectancy into a positive one. Norman Leigh's 13 against the bank "TRUE" escapade against the Bank using a team to cover all evens shots with reverse La Bouchere, is a good read.

this is on-line, im sure its fixed,

every new site i join most it seems i win a grand or 2, thats in reality the
worse thing that can happen as you will be back an they obviously know,
it'll more than likely be their site so its worth them lending the money,
i can go through a grand in minutes its sick to watch,
before i ruined this xmas i done 7 grand in a matter of 3 nights a couple
of months back.
im like black jack 100£ a spin,

RON,
thas bad, really bad.
you need to get out the game if you cant kick it.

i only bet when i drink which makes it uncontrollable
& cant get away from my pc, i've tried betfilter ect but just buy
a new pc in the end to get around it, hopefully in 2015 i change my
ways because i cant carry on how i have in 2014

ron,
our ahead in the game in 1 respect, you can see it has to change.
all the best mate, i hope it works out well.

the one thing about betfair is to learn from every mistake and keep improving as a punter.
if you keep improving you can start to turn a profit.
wining a penny is better than losing a pound!

our = your

im not allowed to bet on here, banned for life!

a misunderstanding a few years back,

so i end up on sites like 32 red, sport.

ive closed and re opened so many accounts you wouldnt believe,

you could say that Ron..a slight misunderstanding FFS

they were a bit unfair, it was the last resort to keep you off the forum

every time they banned you kept coming back from the dead!

I hope you are not on any of these sites NOW Ron

this isnt a bore fest about me,

but the golden rule of betting imo is never drink & gamble,

i've no need for a bet when not drinking & just havent got the chase
factor inside me, if i was drinking and lost a tenner id go to thousands
to get that tenner back, but the sick thing is even if i did id still carry
on expecting more around the next corner.....hand/spin ect

this is 2015 bg, i dont bet anymore!

Yes alcohol releases your inner demon Ron

But it is a good rule never drink and bet, especially you are gambling seriously

I always find I have  an have an extra bet or two when I am drunk

Ron don't know how to beat roulette, it has a negative expectancy IE, zero, and no amount of staking variation can turn a negative expectancy into a positive one. Norman Leigh's 13 against the bank "TRUE" escapade against the Bank using a team to cover all evens shots with reverse La Bouchere, is a good read.

a good read yes, but still a load of boloks mate.

its one of them rules you hear from when you basically start
betting but for some reason think, yeah that don't really apply to
me!

I Done ok for a lot of years, god knows how,

.....but the last 2 i've experienced winning 5 grand drunk in one night & tbh
i wern't even botherd the next day & also experienced losing 5 grand drunk in one night
& the pain of losing so much out weighs the winning.

Just imagine the levels of people doing their bo!!ocks on these on-line
casinos!........i think on lucky nugget i was doing a re spin like every 10 seconds

I think the temptation of these sites Ron
it so easy to win quite large amounts of money in an incredibly short time, and so easy

Sports betting by contrast is slow and difficult, especially if we put the work in
and we can win nothing like as much, even if we do start winning, the bookies stop us getting a bet on

The problem with these on line casino sites as you have found out Ron, you can also lose large amounts of money all too quickly and easy
as well

I was hardly ever out of casinos from 1976 - 2002 until I joined here in 2002. I dread to think what I lost but it must have been well in 6 figures. Haven't been in one apart from for a meal in 12 years.

ha ha, done and dusted. No point getting upset about it. I've made it all back on Betfair.

thats good you've not been back kenny.

....its getting harder an harder to stop now days your bombarded with emails,
adverts on tv ect. proper in your face its wrong their allowed to adverise
imo, its probably worse than smoking for ruining lifes but the government are obviously getting
their chunk, at our expense.....as you say bg you've always got the possibility of
a huge win in mind when thinking of playing.....i still think there bent,
i reckon they monitor & simply put you on a max win % so your like a lamb to
the slaghter.

as you say kenny no good crying over spilt milk.

was your money done with a clear head?

not really, I never went in for a bet without at least 4 pints inside me, Ron.

barst@d aint it,

I've know for a long while drink just leads to everything bad in my
life. evrything from diet keeping fit ect ect, drink = your not geared up
for the day ahead...just a waste of space basically

i remember hearing that never drink an gamble when i was like 17 and just
thought yeah alright, as if that applies to me just some older bloke giving
it i know more than you etc.....it's worse than ever now tho im talking like
the mid 80's now you've got a lap top in your face most of the day

Cold turkey Ron, that's what I did. I was however helped by the fact that I'd started making money on here so thought what's the point in giving it back. Tomorrow is a good day to start. Good night and good luck.

yeah good night kenny.

I know I am not part of the inner circle, but Happy New Year CMAT.

From

Terry, God be good to him.

kenny, "a good read yes, but still a load of boloks mate." I completely agree, but it's entertaining. I don't believe that the events took place as described.

I got "banned" from London casinos in the 70s because myself and a mate used a staking plan I had devised, we did not win a great deal, £216 per night was our target, We both had good jobs and the unsocial hours used would have earned us both much more than the poxy £108 each that we got when we won. and when we had losses the were very small and took over 4 hours before calling it a night.

My mate bumped into a croupier from Silks (The Sportsman Tottengham court rd)that he knew, he told him we weren't banned because we won a poxy few quid, once or twice a week, it was because the 2 seats we occupied (necessary for the "system")where worth X amount per hour to the casino, and we were denying them the expected revenue.

Looking back, a complete waste of time but we were young,and stupid, Incidentally The Playboy club in Park lane, was useless to us as you could not get near the tables unless you were there from early evening, because of Arabs and prostitutes. AAAAHHH the good old days.

happy new year CMAT and to all friends

I thought I had 30 friends for a minute, given the number of posts.

Thanks to those who posted before the great roulette chat, those in the middle of it, and those after it (that's Schubert)

see wot I dun there...

Okay, back to facking roulette then.

No!!!! facken finished with roulette. sorry CMAT didn't mean to hijack your fred.

a friend and myself also had a system BTF which we called the plodders system. We used to go to the Derby casinos in the 90's, and a more unhappy bunch of table staff would be hard to find anywhere. We used to study the croupiers and the wheel spins, and many of them used to get into such a monotonous routine they were banging the ball in pretty close to where it fell last time, what we used to do was cover the 6 numbers either side of where it last fell. Obviously you got the odd bad bounce off the wheel but on a good night we were hitting it 4 out of 5 spins, it took them ages to work it out then they started speeding up the tables so we couldn't get all the bets down or they changed croupiers on a more frequent basis. Made some good money though while it lasted.

HNY BB, In London the changed Croups in some clubs after 20 mins, and wheels as well to stop the "groove/dealer signature" occurring.

Was I ever in the inner circle elite? I honestly can't remember.

HNY BTF, first time I have ever heard anyone else talk about this I thought we were clever and unique

No mate, loads of clever feckers out there, not many winning though. As said earlier no amount of stakes altering will turn a negative expectancy (the zero/house edge)into a positive one. It's mathematically impossible.

Slippy PM sent Yesterday.

have you ever read the book The Newtonian casino?

No BB, read tons over the years, starting with "How to win at this and that" by Midas, he wrote for one of the Sunday papers. With games requiring no skill, such as Rouletts it's a losing battle against true probability.

Read a lot about "the man who broke the bank at Monte Carlo" he was an English engineer who realised that any spinning wheel has a bias. After much study in Monte Carlo he found the bias. As a result of his success, wheel changing became standard practice there.

Can't remember his name, but not Charles Well, who was simply lucky at MC using a high risk strategy with stolen money. Apparently

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kenny, "a good read yes, but still a load of boloks mate." I completely agree, but it's entertaining. I don't believe that the events took place as described.

Me neither, foxy. Basically the reverse system they used mathematically should have produced the same results as the origianl. Entertaining nevertheless.

I had some great nights in the casino and met and spoke with some very well known people, and most were very pleasant. I reccall probably in the Bradford Stakis mid 80s the ex great  footballer John Charles came in with dozens of others all in dress suits and dickys. They'd been to the boxing night at the Hilton next door. George Best had been booked as guest speaker. This was in the days when he was notorious for breaking engagements. John Charles came and stood next to be on the roulette table. I've got to speak to the great man I thought, so I said "Did George Best turn up". Did he boloks was the reply. A conversation with one of the greatest footballers that ever lived about another great player.Not to be sniffed at.

it's a good read BTF and a true story. They were all maths and physics wizzards who built a computer that was built into a shoe, and this sent a signal to another person who was doing the betting. They measured the velocity of the wheel against the velocity of the ball and they could predict in which 6 number segment the ball would land. They had to do a lot of work because this was in the days before micro batteries and all the chips had to be programmed from scratch. Most of them ended up working in Silicon Valley.

I am always going round in circled.  Does that count??

All the stars came to the Bradford Casino after appearing at the famous nearby Alhambra Theatre as they stayed at the Victoria Hotel just over the road.

Chatted to Gerry Marsden while we were watching a football match, very pleasant he was too, also Bill Maynard who was equally nice. The biggest star was Stewart Granger but he was surrounded by heavies.

I think I saw a TV programme about the shoe gang, Burton. Ingenious.

That story I'm familiar with, but not from the book, A similar thing is supposed to have been pulled off in "Card counting".
I goggled to find the engineering guy, but only found Charles Wells, It was the late 60s when I read it, He had a long surname like braithwaite, (I know that's a place not a person)Yorkshire sounding, It's all a haze now, sometimes can't remember what I did yesterday.

moisok

"I am always going round in circled.  Does that count??"

Are cowboys and covered wagons involved.

Peter Fairley (had to look the name up) Science Editor for Independent Television News and TV Times magazine in the late 1960s and early 1970s, was always in The Sportsman (Silks mentioned earlier.)in the early 70s running around the table like a demented Tasmanian devil betting on many different numbers each spin. Never once saw him win anything worthwhile.

Looks like I have hijacked the fred, hope the Inner circle, don't mind.

Ron started it.

Happy New Year to the Inner Roulette  Wheel Circle Club Thing.

Yeah where's Ron,  MMH,

Looks like I have hijacked the fred, hope the Inner circle, don't mind


you'd know as you would be hanging from under a bridge by now

Kinell BB is the penalty that severe, I'm gonna stop this "Little wheel" malarky. I have a rich mate who has a terrible stutter, gonna call to see if he wants to play snap for big stakes.








I'll get me smoking jacket.

Gods banker got stuffed but the Devils bankers all got clean away, how did that happen????

Foxy, them blooming Russians want to take over everything.

only CMAT knows

Gambling is like that MMH, a 5/1 chance you'll blow the lot. .........no references to the other type of blow please!!

As we're back on roulette...

I heard somewhere recently that a group of geeks are using miniature laser scanners to judge the speed of the ball and in roughly which area it will stop, and placing bets at the last possible second. 

I've only played roulette a few times in a casino.  That was in Calgary, Canada. I lost a few quid the first night, but had all the luck going on the 2nd night. The next two nights I ended up about level, but no big stakes at all, just playing for fun.

On the last night before we went to Vancouver there was a race meeting on the dirt track. Entry was free so we wandered in. I only had one bet, $50 on a 3-1 shot. The track is so small that even a 6 furlong race is over a lap.

I got lucky as the race was well dodgy.

My horse was last with half a lap to go, but every horse moved off the rails to let it glide through and win by an easy 2 lengths.

That was the first and last bet I had there.

All the best taxi.

HNY Kenny ! (and the inner circle )

U2 Leopard.

Funny handshakes all round.

HNY Foinavon.

I was a member of the Inner Circle, but it was "Colin Tinkler's" Inner Circle Horse Racing Syndicate sometime in the 70s.

Happy New Year, Kenny. We fooled the grim reaper for yet another one.

Think there may possibly be a fe w years in us looking Jool's show on BBC2.

71 year old Jeff Beck, witha very impressive head of hair is not the oldest.

Happy New Year, Kenny. We fooled the grim reaper for yet another one.

And another mate.

^ Still time

I see i was still having the same problems 2 years back Kenny!

call me a taxi    01 Jan 15 14:22 
I thought I had 30 friends for a minute, given the number of posts. Laugh

Thanks to those who posted before the great roulette chat,

Still time


That's what I thought just after I posted, crags. 

Still time


That's what I thought just after I posted, crags. 

indeed you were Ron.

Happy 2017 to all. It's going to be really really interesting.


A big wet sloppy one with lots of tongue from your favourite Dane.

big slutty naked group hug to all