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A female healthcare worker returning from West Africa is being treated in a Glasgow hospital for Ebola.
A female healthcare worker returning from West Africa is being treated in a Glasgow hospital for Ebola.
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The 'expert' at the BBC says it's pretty hard to contract it.
How did the health worker get it then?
In his xmas stocking?
And the victim landed in Glasgow?
But has been moved to a secure isolation unit.
Which is in the London Hospital, Whitechapel.
That's Scotland's nearest isolation unit?
How did the health worker get it then?
In his xmas stocking?
And the victim landed in Glasgow?
But has been moved to a secure isolation unit.
Which is in the London Hospital, Whitechapel.
That's Scotland's nearest isolation unit?
I would be a bit worried if I had travelled back on the plane with her.
I'd be that worried if I went out there in the first place, that I'd see a psychiatrist.
i thought the royal free was the place to go for this sht in London?
up the road from some decent watering holes. other end of town CMAT
What are they doing allowing this in to the country like this - apparently she was screened twice !!?? Oh yeah!!??
Snobby woman journo (on sky) intimating that the daily mail has a bit mor scarmongering /hysterical headline whereas the guardian is more sensible!!!!
I wonder who she writes for!!??
I would be fkn hysterical if I had been sat behind this person on the plane!!!
I wonder who she writes for!!??
I would be fkn hysterical if I had been sat behind this person on the plane!!!
Quick take her out back, and just get rid of her OLD SCHOOL
..Wort it in the long run !
..Wort it in the long run !
Shipping out Ebola patients to London? Better together right enough.
But has been moved to a secure isolation unit.
Which is in the London Hospital, Whitechapel.
That's Scotland's nearest isolation unit?
My error.
It seems she's in the Royal Free Hospital, which is in Hampstead, not the London Hospital in Whitechapel.
We wouldn't want her to leave the Whitechapel hospital and wander around contaminating people, would we?
"The 'expert' at the BBC says it's pretty hard to contract it.
How did the health worker get it then? "
Apparently you have to be in contact with someone who has got it and showing the symptoms. So travelling back on the same plane as her when she didn't have a temperature or any symptoms, the risk would have been pretty low, but obviously who wouldn't be worried !
The poor woman who has got it was only trying to do good and she was a volunteer healthcare worker. Hope she pulls through, apparently this isolation unit she has been taken to in London is the most top level place for her to be and to treat her. And now another suspected case in Cornwall on the morning news.
How did the health worker get it then? "
Apparently you have to be in contact with someone who has got it and showing the symptoms. So travelling back on the same plane as her when she didn't have a temperature or any symptoms, the risk would have been pretty low, but obviously who wouldn't be worried !
The poor woman who has got it was only trying to do good and she was a volunteer healthcare worker. Hope she pulls through, apparently this isolation unit she has been taken to in London is the most top level place for her to be and to treat her. And now another suspected case in Cornwall on the morning news.
"The Royal Cornwall Hospital said a patient had been admitted and is currently undergoing a series of tests, one of which is for Ebola.
A spokesman said the results were not expected for 24 hours and the patient was being looked after in isolation.
It is understood the patient recently returned from a country affected by an outbreak of the virus."
A spokesman said the results were not expected for 24 hours and the patient was being looked after in isolation.
It is understood the patient recently returned from a country affected by an outbreak of the virus."
Ive been visiting in Treliske Hospital over the last week.
Do Chit Chatters think it's too late to invest in a Ebola Suit
Do Chit Chatters think it's too late to invest in a Ebola Suit
good post hound dog, but i fear you may well have your work cut out trying to educate some of the simpletons that frequent the b/f forum.
i hope the nurse makes a full recovery, a brave and selfless person.
i hope the nurse makes a full recovery, a brave and selfless person.
The Muslim Terrorist group, Boko Harum will be thinking : "How can we get as many infected people we can into European countries"
The poor woman who has got it was only trying to do good and she was a volunteer healthcare worker. Hope she pulls through, apparently this isolation unit she has been taken to in London is the most top level place for her to be and to treat her. And now another suspected case in Cornwall on the morning news.
Absolute idiot of a woman. Going to try and help Ebola patients abroad but instead spreads it to another country risking a new outbreak.
Absolute idiot of a woman. Going to try and help Ebola patients abroad but instead spreads it to another country risking a new outbreak.
Did she use toilet on flight from Heathrow to Glasgow, if so, who used it after her.
Yes how brave and selfless. Spreading a contagious virus to a new country and putting hundreds of peoples of lives at risk.
The Muslim Terrorist group, Boko Harum will be thinking : "How can we get as many infected people we can into European countries"
maybe the CIA are already developing their own ebola bomb for those pesky muslims
maybe the CIA are already developing their own ebola bomb for those pesky muslims
Yes how brave and selfless. Spreading a contagious virus to a new country and putting hundreds of peoples of lives at risk.
..unshrewd dud, this caring soul has not spread any disease... ps, get youself some oven gloves, paper suit, and a pair of wellies
if you feel threatened.
..unshrewd dud, this caring soul has not spread any disease... ps, get youself some oven gloves, paper suit, and a pair of wellies
if you feel threatened.
maybe the CIA are already developing their own ebola bomb for those pesky muslims
Muslim Terrorists....not all Muslims
Muslim Terrorists....not all Muslims
this caring soul has not spread any disease
...we don't know yet.....as LFC says
...we don't know yet.....as LFC says
Doctor who sat next to Ebola victim (while talking about going outside health centre )
"Children come up to hug you and you can't avoid that"
Yes, you can, you shout : BACK OFF !
Probably how woman caught it.
"Children come up to hug you and you can't avoid that"
Yes, you can, you shout : BACK OFF !
Probably how woman caught it.
Doctor who sat next to Ebola victim on plane to Heathrow
Yes how brave and selfless. Spreading a contagious virus to a new country and putting hundreds of peoples of lives at risk.
..unshrewd dud, this caring soul has not spread any disease... ps, get youself some oven gloves, paper suit, and a pair of wellies
if you feel threatened.
She has carried it to an area where it never was and the only reason she may have not spread it will be down to the efforts of the real brave and selfless efforts of people whose job it is to treat and contain it.
Going abroad to help people with Ebola whilst working in the 'red zone' then jumping on several planes and carrying the disease in to areas where it hasn't previously been is just idiotic.
..unshrewd dud, this caring soul has not spread any disease... ps, get youself some oven gloves, paper suit, and a pair of wellies
if you feel threatened.
She has carried it to an area where it never was and the only reason she may have not spread it will be down to the efforts of the real brave and selfless efforts of people whose job it is to treat and contain it.
Going abroad to help people with Ebola whilst working in the 'red zone' then jumping on several planes and carrying the disease in to areas where it hasn't previously been is just idiotic.
She could have gone on tube, sneezed in the faces of numerous people and we'd be in big trouble
Shrewd_dude
Going abroad to help people with Ebola whilst working in the 'red zone' then jumping on several planes and carrying the disease in to areas where it hasn't previously been is just idiotic.
So you think it was a deliberate act?
What about the thousands of other health workers fighting this disease?
Must they remain forever in the affected areas?
Going abroad to help people with Ebola whilst working in the 'red zone' then jumping on several planes and carrying the disease in to areas where it hasn't previously been is just idiotic.
So you think it was a deliberate act?
What about the thousands of other health workers fighting this disease?
Must they remain forever in the affected areas?
No, they have to go into a quarantine area for 3 weeks to see if they are infected.
The Leopard
No, they have to go into a quarantine area for 3 weeks to see if they are infected.
TBH I haven't read the story so what happened in this case? Why wasn't this person quarantined?
No, they have to go into a quarantine area for 3 weeks to see if they are infected.
TBH I haven't read the story so what happened in this case? Why wasn't this person quarantined?
So you think it was a deliberate act?
What about the thousands of other health workers fighting this disease?
Must they remain forever in the affected areas?
Of course I don't think it was deliberate. It was idiotic.
It's common sense that a person looking to help with the outbreak of ebola takes precautions not to become a host themselves and not to be a a potential source for brining the disease in to areas it is not. It appears that she has just hopped on a plane without any thought or concern that she may have it when a few days previously she was working in the 'red zone'.
What about the thousands of other health workers fighting this disease?
Must they remain forever in the affected areas?
Of course I don't think it was deliberate. It was idiotic.
It's common sense that a person looking to help with the outbreak of ebola takes precautions not to become a host themselves and not to be a a potential source for brining the disease in to areas it is not. It appears that she has just hopped on a plane without any thought or concern that she may have it when a few days previously she was working in the 'red zone'.
I'm saying that they should be quarantined in Africa for 3 weeks to see if they are infected then allowed to come back without coming into contact with any of the locals.
Shrewd_dude
Of course I don't think it was deliberate. It was idiotic.
It's common sense that a person looking to help with the outbreak of ebola takes precautions not to become a host themselves and not to be a a potential source for brining the disease in to areas it is not. It appears that she has just hopped on a plane without any thought or concern that she may have it when a few days previously she was working in the 'red zone'.
This can't be the first health worker to return and I'm assuming they do get some kind of check before being allowed to fly.
Surely further up the line must take responsibility if these checks, as it appears here, aren't sufficient.
Of course I don't think it was deliberate. It was idiotic.
It's common sense that a person looking to help with the outbreak of ebola takes precautions not to become a host themselves and not to be a a potential source for brining the disease in to areas it is not. It appears that she has just hopped on a plane without any thought or concern that she may have it when a few days previously she was working in the 'red zone'.
This can't be the first health worker to return and I'm assuming they do get some kind of check before being allowed to fly.
Surely further up the line must take responsibility if these checks, as it appears here, aren't sufficient.
Are you mad?
It won't matter until an infected health worker returns to Oxfordshire, where Cameron lives.
It won't matter until an infected health worker returns to Oxfordshire, where Cameron lives.
Just think if this got into London among say 10 people...it would be unstoppable.
Plenty of doctors are critics I see. So it isn't just old jackbooted nazis like me muttering about it.
ps
the checks simply are not adequate. Doctors are now saying the same.
the checks simply are not adequate. Doctors are now saying the same.
This can't be the first health worker to return and I'm assuming they do get some kind of check before being allowed to fly.
Surely further up the line must take responsibility if these checks, as it appears here, aren't sufficient.
So it's someone else fault is it?
The checks at airports consist of taking temperatures of the passengers and assessing someones risk of coming in to contact with ebola. It's very hard to screen effectively for infectious diseases at an airport.
If people are going in to 'red zones' and working there they will know that symptoms don't show for on average 9 days so it's completely irresponsible to be jumping on planes a couple of days later and putting other people at risk of contracting the disease.
Surely further up the line must take responsibility if these checks, as it appears here, aren't sufficient.
So it's someone else fault is it?
The checks at airports consist of taking temperatures of the passengers and assessing someones risk of coming in to contact with ebola. It's very hard to screen effectively for infectious diseases at an airport.
If people are going in to 'red zones' and working there they will know that symptoms don't show for on average 9 days so it's completely irresponsible to be jumping on planes a couple of days later and putting other people at risk of contracting the disease.
In some of these countries rumours going round not to seek medical help and to stay away from white people because they killing people. This is the level of racism that is being faced by people trying to save lives. It is a political game and don't expect any gratitude.
The Leopard
"I'm saying that they should be quarantined in Africa for 3 weeks to see if they are infected then allowed to come back without coming into contact with any of the locals."
Will you stop posting simple, effective, common sense solutions, the endless flow of "experts" on the telly will be out of work.
"I'm saying that they should be quarantined in Africa for 3 weeks to see if they are infected then allowed to come back without coming into contact with any of the locals."
Will you stop posting simple, effective, common sense solutions, the endless flow of "experts" on the telly will be out of work.
Shrewd over a thousand people have returned, are they all irresponsible?
Of course others must take the blame if it's as simple as what is being said.
I feel that they've thought their checks were sufficient and been caught short.
These health workers wouldn't be allowed to leave these infected areas unless those in charge thought it was okay.
Of course others must take the blame if it's as simple as what is being said.
I feel that they've thought their checks were sufficient and been caught short.
These health workers wouldn't be allowed to leave these infected areas unless those in charge thought it was okay.
I would have thought that maximum controls inc 3 wks quarantine etc would be applied until more is learned about this horrible disease. We/they seem to have a reactive policy to something that is far from understood. surely a proactive policy should be in place at this time, with maximum precautions forming the basis of any policy.
Symptoms of Ebola virus disease
A person infected with Ebola virus will typically develop a fever, a headache, joint and muscle pain, a sore throat, and intense muscle weakness.
These symptoms start suddenly between 2 and 21 days after becoming infected.
That's the official word. Therefore, those admirable health workers who are selflessly putting themselves at risk by going out to West Africa to help should be happy to accept that they are to be quarantined and observed for 21 days before seeking to return to the UK.
If there are no suitable quarantine locations before they fly home, then they could be brought back by military aircraft and accommodated in suitable quarantine here in the UK.
If that's an over-reaction, then so be it. The human rights of the resident UK population are more significant than the human rights of the brave helpers who are prepared to risk their lives by their own choice.
A person infected with Ebola virus will typically develop a fever, a headache, joint and muscle pain, a sore throat, and intense muscle weakness.
These symptoms start suddenly between 2 and 21 days after becoming infected.
That's the official word. Therefore, those admirable health workers who are selflessly putting themselves at risk by going out to West Africa to help should be happy to accept that they are to be quarantined and observed for 21 days before seeking to return to the UK.
If there are no suitable quarantine locations before they fly home, then they could be brought back by military aircraft and accommodated in suitable quarantine here in the UK.
If that's an over-reaction, then so be it. The human rights of the resident UK population are more significant than the human rights of the brave helpers who are prepared to risk their lives by their own choice.
Yes they are just as irresponsible if they have done what she has.
This isn't a case of someone inadvertently contracting the disease from visiting a country which has the disease.
These health workers have went over there to help prevent Ebola. They have been working in the 'red zone' where risk of infection is high and they have knowledge about the disease from working with it. They have to know that there is a potential that they could be carrying the disease and they must know that symptoms may not show until they are back in the UK and they are not taking the necessary precautions when leaving these areas. They may as well not go at all if they are doing this.
What do you expect the airports to do? The only way to confirm whether someone definitely has Ebola is by testing them and by that stage she would be in the UK anyway.
This isn't a case of someone inadvertently contracting the disease from visiting a country which has the disease.
These health workers have went over there to help prevent Ebola. They have been working in the 'red zone' where risk of infection is high and they have knowledge about the disease from working with it. They have to know that there is a potential that they could be carrying the disease and they must know that symptoms may not show until they are back in the UK and they are not taking the necessary precautions when leaving these areas. They may as well not go at all if they are doing this.
What do you expect the airports to do? The only way to confirm whether someone definitely has Ebola is by testing them and by that stage she would be in the UK anyway.
Shrewd all I'm saying is that whoever is in charge of the health workers must be allowing them to return.
Amateur news conference now - no mic for questions
If the symptoms can appear up to 21 days after contamination, the quarantine should be considerably more than that. I would suggest 30 days. They cannot possibly decide that just because they have no record of symptoms after 21 days, that this is the latest possible date. Where is the safety margin?
Apparently soap and water stops this disease frpm spreading.
Latest death count = 7,905
Not slowing down at all then.
Wonder it hasn't spread through London yet.
Latest death count = 7,905
Not slowing down at all then.
Wonder it hasn't spread through London yet.
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