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naydam
29 Dec 14 16:38
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I'm sure that I read on here recently that the dog's name (n I g g e r) had been removed from the film score.
This is not true. The film (Dam Busters) is on now and nobody is embarrassed about addressing the dog by name!
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Report call me a taxi December 29, 2014 4:46 PM GMT
Is it on the BBC?
Report alun2005 December 29, 2014 5:09 PM GMT
The name of the dog was altered to 'Boy" for one telly screening I watched, and that was around 10 years or more ago.

The 'N-word' (copyright all dimwit media organisations) was also ridiculously edited out of that broadcast in the dam-raid scenes towards the end of the film (another daft re-write of history) because it was actually the code-word to be used by the pilots to denote a direct hit on a Dam.   

Do media organisations now wish to pretend that the N-word never existed, and deny that thousands of dogs had the name throughout the 20th century?

Curiously, all manner of ugly 'gangsta rap' artistes use the N-word to the exclusion of any other appropriate name in their revolting songs, many played on the BBC, but the sky hasn't fallen in as yet.
Report MisterBadger December 29, 2014 7:15 PM GMT
The dog has always been called N1gger on every screening I've ever seen; however, the remake which is due out in 2016, has the dog renamed as Digger, which is scandalous imo
Report Arleystation December 29, 2014 7:31 PM GMT
My black labrador is a digger. I often call him a bastard when he digs up my lawn. Am I racist and should I swap him for a golden labrador?
Report Ramruma December 29, 2014 7:34 PM GMT
The remake should simply take the dog out altogether imo. It's not like any other war films include the household pets of the main characters.
Report naydam December 29, 2014 10:14 PM GMT
There are no 'Golden' Labrador retrievers. Devil
Report FlowerMyth December 30, 2014 10:26 AM GMT
I’ve seen it on TV edited and unedited, depends who’s showing it.

You can’t leave the dog out as he really is part of the story, besides if you leave him out you still have to come up with an alternative to the codeword that was named after him. Though I dislike the idea of rewriting history, Digger seems a reasonable substitution. It’d be a pity that, if this film ever gets made, and they choose to go with the proper name, that that controversy would overshadow the story. I suspect it’s really only a few white luvvies getting offended on behalf of people who couldn’t give a monkeys about the dog and his name.

Here’s the real dog, when he and Gibson were still at No.106 squadron at Coningsby, in front of Lancaster ZN-E, May 1942 - one year before the dams raid.

Report naydam December 30, 2014 10:33 AM GMT
The problem will return when, a few years down the line, the Aussies complain about the word 'Digger'. SadSad
I suppose the Aussies might complain about 'Aussies', too. Shocked   So much PC...so little time! CrazyCrazy
Report Arleystation December 30, 2014 10:54 AM GMT
There are no 'Golden' Labrador retrievers. Devil

I know - I used the common term as I didn't want to be accused of being anti-ChineseGrin.
Report alun2005 December 30, 2014 11:20 AM GMT
Surely the sensible compromise name for the dog (which even the luvvies and liberal news media throw around like confetti) is "N-word".  Agonised white liberal cinemagoers the world over would surely beam with pride to hear the actor portraying Gibson say "Come here N-word, good boy" and the like. Another box ticked. 


What a state of lunacy we have reached in the modern world when history has to be rewritten to accommodate the (faked, obviously) concerns of the liberal elite.
Report Ramruma December 30, 2014 11:52 AM GMT
@FlowerMyth -- with respect, the dog is not part of the story, aside from the codeword. Barnes Wallis's children were more important than the dog, though I don't suppose there'd be anything like as much fuss if they were left out of the marbles scenes, and -- without going to imdb -- what were the children's names?

The more interesting questions about the remake concern the structure of the film. Will it be like the original, which is basically two documentaries bolted onto each other, but with far better special effects?
Report call me a taxi December 30, 2014 11:59 AM GMT
without going to imdb -- what were the children's names?

Winston and Leroy.
Report Ramruma December 30, 2014 12:09 PM GMT
Winston and Leroy.

Wasn't one of them a girl?
Report Ramruma December 30, 2014 12:12 PM GMT
But it illustrates the point. We can't remember the children and the only reason anyone gives a damn about the dog is because of its unfortunate name.

The dog didn't design the bomb, didn't fly the planes, and will not be missed if replaced by Guy Gibson's goldfish.
Report alun2005 December 30, 2014 12:18 PM GMT
The names Winston and Leroy will obviously have to go as well as they are standard issue "comedy" names given to the occasional black characters in "racist" 1970s British sitcoms.
Report alun2005 December 30, 2014 12:20 PM GMT
BTW, I can't wait to see the scene where Gibson takes his goldfish for a walk and they get run over by a car. Probably best if they are in the bowl at the time as they will struggle to find a small leash.
Report Arleystation December 30, 2014 12:21 PM GMT
The dog was the squadron mascot and was actually taken on training flights. He was very popular and morale-boosting for the squadron. Not sure a goldfish would have served the same purpose.
Report naydam December 30, 2014 12:28 PM GMT
Quite apart from that, you obviously don't know what he called that goldfish! I don't know why he did because it wasn't from Pakistan.
And it's parents WERE married (in the eyes of The Lord!).
Report The Leopard December 30, 2014 12:37 PM GMT
???
Report alun2005 December 30, 2014 12:42 PM GMT
There's an entire sitcom waiting to be written about this farce. And it would probably be better than The Dambusters film too, original or remake.

The working title could be "Would A Black Goldfish Be Racist?"
Report cricketjon December 30, 2014 5:47 PM GMT
..and would a goldfish remember what racism is?
Report call me a taxi December 30, 2014 5:58 PM GMT
It's a myth that they have short memories.
Report The Leopard December 30, 2014 6:03 PM GMT
Wiki :

Goldfish have a memory-span of at least three months and can distinguish between different shapes, colors and sounds. By using positive reinforcement, goldfish can be trained to recognize and to react to light signals of different colors or to perform tricks. Fish respond to certain colors most evidently in relation to feeding. Fish learn to anticipate feedings provided they occur at around the same time every day.
Report cricketjon December 30, 2014 6:39 PM GMT
worthy instructive responses thank you. I am left on the ropes with the ace up my sleeve that is "surely if it is black it would be a Blackfish not a Goldfish ? "
Report screaming from beneaththewaves December 30, 2014 7:39 PM GMT
FlowerMyth 30 Dec 14 10:26 Joined: 13 Aug 11 | Topic/replies: 765 | Blogger: FlowerMyth's blog
I’ve seen it on TV edited and unedited, depends who’s showing it.

You can’t leave the dog out as he really is part of the story, besides if you leave him out you still have to come up with an alternative to the codeword that was named after him. Though I dislike the idea of rewriting history, Digger seems a reasonable substitution. It’d be a pity that, if this film ever gets made, and they choose to go with the proper name, that that controversy would overshadow the story. I suspect it’s really only a few white luvvies getting offended on behalf of people who couldn’t give a monkeys about the dog and his name.


Well, it made me s(n-word).Grin
Report call me a taxi December 30, 2014 10:15 PM GMT
Call the dog 'riotingandlootingtealeaf' and we'll know what you mean.
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