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The Leopard
21 Dec 14 00:27
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He was organising it

340 kids 17 yo and 16 yo

start 7.45pm to 11.45 scheduled

ended at 9.30pm due to broken window caused in fight and some kid cracked his head on loo.

So they got 1 hr 45m when they should have had 4 hours.

Should we threaten to sue for money back?

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By:
The Leopard
When: 21 Dec 14 00:27
Helping organise, that is.
By:
AFTERTHOUGHT
When: 21 Dec 14 00:31
Organised the punch up !
By:
The Leopard
When: 21 Dec 14 00:32
No, he was not involved in fight.
By:
The Leopard
When: 21 Dec 14 00:33
Cost near £4,500 with DJ and damage deposit (£1000)
By:
AFTERTHOUGHT
When: 21 Dec 14 00:44
Surprised
By:
Joel
When: 21 Dec 14 00:45
Sounds like he needs to be disowned.
By:
The Leopard
When: 21 Dec 14 00:47
Start near 7.30pm - update

He had nothing to do with trouble, Joel.
By:
AFTERTHOUGHT
When: 21 Dec 14 00:47
Lump of coal this year
Cry
By:
Paddy Hair
When: 21 Dec 14 00:52
Bet it was someone who works for the Boat company that started the fight, 5K for under 2 hours. Take the boat down river for another party later.
By:
The Leopard
When: 21 Dec 14 00:55
Had a thought : threaten to get all the kids to go on twitter, reviews, facebook and rubbish the company
By:
Joel
When: 21 Dec 14 01:02
Is there a contract somewhere?
By:
AFTERTHOUGHT
When: 21 Dec 14 01:06
I presume there was no alcohol onboard ?
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 21 Dec 14 01:07
Must be clause stating no fighting and no damage or trip immediately cancelled.

Bad things happen at sea, they can`t afford to take chances regarding insurance purposes. Once aware of any trouble, perhaps they are in breach of any insurance.
By:
charwell.
When: 21 Dec 14 01:09
Rubbish the company for stopping somebody possibly getting seriously injured or worse?!!!

A boat is not the place for a ruck so if your boys pals caused a fight then tough, the contract will have the caveat about discretion to end it early in such circumstances.

Going on twitter etc, you 1diot. IF it was my company I would stop it!
By:
Paddy Hair
When: 21 Dec 14 01:10
A kid cracked his head on the toilet, 16 and 17 he got to close whilst throwing up after 4 Stella's. They should have carried on for the 4 hours and took the 1K for damage cost. 1 window how much really, if it gets out of hand you call the Law.
Something is not right here.
By:
The Leopard
When: 21 Dec 14 01:22
No alcohol served but kids were probably pre-loading

Can't find t&c s
By:
naydam
When: 21 Dec 14 01:37
It sounds like it's been aborted on health and safety grounds and quite rightly so. It doesn't take much to turn a scuffle into a disaster on water, especially at night. Captain of the boat would have no choice whatsoever.
The kids may be disgruntled now, but they are all safe. Some may have gained a little wisdom from this. Some won't have.
By:
dambuster
When: 21 Dec 14 10:03
I was on a boat disco many years ago from Tower gateway (thames), from 9-1am, it was so cold on the boat, that some maniac  made a small bonfire on the dance floor,this was extinguished after a few minutes , but we continued on our merry way
By:
geoff m
When: 21 Dec 14 10:55
probably Pyromaniac DambusterLaugh
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 21 Dec 14 10:57
bad idea to let kids do anything interesting.
By:
call me a taxi
When: 21 Dec 14 10:58
I'd have got them on Woolwich Ferry for a tenner each.
By:
ThommosBucket
When: 21 Dec 14 11:01
The Leopard 21 Dec 14 01:22 Joined: 05 Apr 06 | Topic/replies: 22,645 | Blogger: The Leopard's blog
No alcohol served but kids were probably pre-loading

Can't find t&c s

Hundreds of kids, plenty of them drinking and not being able to cope,smashed window, fights breaking out on a boat.

Yep, I reckon you trash the company on social media - they sound like the problem....

Kids go through this as they grow up - not judging at all, we've all been there - lesson learnt, money gone, move on.
By:
Akak
When: 21 Dec 14 11:05
340 teenagers aged between 16 and 17 and you don't expect any trouble? Love
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 21 Dec 14 11:10
did you have any security/bouncers ?
By:
The Leopard
When: 21 Dec 14 11:10
They must have security, could have dropped trouble-makers off at nearest pier and carried on.

You don't close down a night club because something gets broken.
By:
ThommosBucket
When: 21 Dec 14 11:14
You do close a nightclub down if its full of underage kids worse for wear.

Sure if one of the kids had fallen in p***ed up and drowned you would have come on praising the company for their live and let live attitude.
By:
The Leopard
When: 21 Dec 14 11:18
Maybe they shouldn't be booking parties for kids under 21 then.
By:
ThommosBucket
When: 21 Dec 14 11:24
I agree - it is their responsibility to ensure the kids don't turn up p***ed up....

Sue them, go for it. In todays climate of H&S paranoia I reckon you are onto a winner.
By:
naydam
When: 21 Dec 14 11:41
It's not really a matter of age. ANY kind of trouble, horseplay or tomfoolery is very dangerous on water. Especially if it involves drink or drugs. It is dangerous enough when everybody is well-behaved.
By:
The Leopard
When: 21 Dec 14 11:47
Have to see how much they want to keep of the £1000 damage deposit, dependant on what size window was broken, probably not worth the hassle to try to get any kind of refund on main fee. They may get a few bad social media reviews though.
By:
Dotchinite
When: 21 Dec 14 11:57
The contract must be with someone over 18 surely?
By:
Honest Al
When: 21 Dec 14 12:38
The Leopard,

Was the trip with City Cruises?

If it was I maybe able to help you.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 21 Dec 14 12:38
340 kids on a boat

what can go wrong
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 21 Dec 14 13:02
i would had thought 20 would had been the max of that age in a group
By:
The Leopard
When: 21 Dec 14 13:40
No, not City Cruises

Just had a report from son....slept round friends.... woke up at 12.30pm

Window was 1m x 1.5m. ( how much will they charge?)

Son thinks it was possible someone could have fallen in the water.

Many kids tipsey.

Maybe best to end it early.
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 21 Dec 14 13:49
suprised they still do these wasn't there a terrible tragedy some years ago?
By:
Clungehungry
When: 21 Dec 14 13:52
I doubt you have a leg to stand on with the company, legally.

I would write them a letter apologising, and say that next time you will make sure they are better prepared. (e.g. hint they may get future trade).

Then in a subsequent communication. Ask them if they would consider deferring the damage costs against savings made ending the trip early. Problem is there won't really have been many savings - pilot, and other stuff will still have been paid the full amount, there would have been no opportunity to rehire it out, I guess you're just talking about fuel really.
By:
Ramruma
When: 21 Dec 14 13:57
It might even have cost more to end the cruise early if the boat had to pay for an unbooked slot at the pier.
By:
The Leopard
When: 21 Dec 14 14:12
Have to see how much they want to keep from the deposit.
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