climate change is not man made - brainwashed masses

AGREED.... even if we done EVERYTHING that was needed plus tap dance whilst balancing spinning plates, it would only make a 2% difference to our predicament.

You might find that a 2% difference can be a very significant figure.

You might find that a 2% difference can be a very significant figure.

There's 4% already! 

thanks for your well thought out and scientific analysis zorro, but I think I'll stick with the expert view thanks 

Yeah, I think I'll go with the qualified global scientific opinion, rather than some plank with low self-esteem who's read a web-page and believed everything wihtout question because he wants to think himself above the masses - or other people, as they are known to those of us without such low self-esteem.

zorro another knock down ginger poster once he's done with the opening post he's done

Clungehungry
Clungehungry 17 Dec 14 10:14 Joined: 14 Feb 11 | Topic/replies: 9,508 | Blogger: Clungehungry's blog
Yeah, I think I'll go with the qualified global scientific opinion, rather than some plank with low self-esteem who's read a web-page and believed everything wihtout question because he wants to think himself above the masses - or other people, as they are known to those of us without such low self-esteem.

Brilliant.

Science moved on since the days of 3 tv channels

Besides, whether global warming does for us or not, the escalating drain on resources caused by spiralling population growth will ensure the planet is impotent before very long (happily prob not before we've popped us clogs  )

Clungehungry 17 Dec 14
Yeah, I think I'll go with the qualified global scientific opinion, rather than some plank with low self-esteem who's read a web-page and believed everything wihtout question because he wants to think himself above the masses - or other people, as they are known to those of us without such low self-esteem.

Brilliant.

Brilliant in that he's read different web-pages and prefers to believe everything without question - like a brainwashed sheep :)

There have been no scientific advances for at least 40 years.

A lot of "qualified scientists" receive a helluva lot of funding/payment to compile their global warming reports, shouldn't be so naive clunge

recently (last ten years )the sun has been relatively inactive with a maunder minimum argument introduced  but even then the co2 evidence would appear pretty strong.
Even though the sun has been at its most inactive last year was allegedly one of the hottest (warmest) for a wee while .
Sea temps also suggest a recent warming and world  weather patterns have changed ,of course weather and climate and temps have forever been changing but the recent topsy turvy   changes have happened quickly with rain patterns now unpredictable .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide_in_Earth%27s_atmosphere

There been much evidence  presented that co2 has markedly  increased in the last  century or and appears this is pretty much accepted to be the root  cause ,  would also appear this coincided with the industrial revolution .The sun is still to be fully understood and exactly what effect it does have on the short term  weather  ,if it is at a maunder min or even just at a lull or low it does not explain last years reasonably good weather imo .
Weather patterns have changed and not sure they are being understood fully never mind what the causes are but will have a pound Co2 is causing heating and this is the reason ,exactly why the co2 has increased is the debate but its all a cluster**** tbh .
Although ice is melting at one pole it is increasing at the other .The biggest effect on "ever changing climate and  weather" has been the internet imo .

Lol Ivor.  I really wanted to put some ironic reference to "sheeple" in my post but had neither the wit or intelligence to fit it in.

All them northerners with coal fires, and posh fackers with wood burning stoves.

All that heat has got to the Arctic Circle and made a hole in the Ozone Layer. 

Save the planet by putting on fur coats indoors and leave the heating off.

ITS ALL THESE HAIR DRYERS AND FIRES AND CENTRAL HEATING AND ELECTRIC FIRES ITS WARMING ALL THE AIR UP CHANGING THE CLOUDS WHERE THE RAIN COMES FROM AND THE AIR TEMPERATURES ,

I KNOW AN ESKIMO WHO CAN PROOVE IT,EVERYTIME HE LIGHTS A FIRE IN HIS IGLOO,PART OF HIS SNOW ROOF MELTS

HIS WIFE MAKES HIM SMOKE OUTSIDE HIS IGLOO ,BECAUSE THE HEAT OFF HIS LIGHTER KEEPS MELTING THE WALLS,THEIR ALLWAYS ARGUING HE SAID IF IVE GOT TO SMOKE OUT SIDE THE IGLOO IN THE COLD THEN YOU CAN COOK OUT SIDE THE IGLOO IN THE COLD

I fancy this next ten years of rising temperatures.

I'll have a bit of that.

What a load of toss.

Keep warm and enjoy yourselves. You're only here once.

you'll be warm where you're going and I don't mean bendidorm

Lord save us from the climate change fanatics.
There's got to be some upside to climate change.
Why do people only talk about the negatives and try to prevent the inevitable.

We've not had a Climate Change Fred for weaks..
this won could run and run like detergents down a river!

worry not  they know how to cool us down

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUaW3DQqPig

Brilliant in that he's read different web-pages and prefers to believe everything without question - like a brainwashed sheep :)

Not really sure what a brainwashed sheep is? Have they been told they are an ostrich. But no, although I do look at the internet, I prefer accredited news and science sites to ones where the font is large blue and often flashing, there is advert for life-crystals in the corner, and a link to something which you suspect is going to anti-semetic but really don't to risk seeing.

More importantly though, man's impact on the environment was the subject of my university degree. You can read it if you like, there's a copy in the library. Climate change was a big deal amongst geography academics back then, not least because even though it had already been widely observed and the consequences potentially catastrophic, politicians were reluctant to do anything about it, because telling people something they don't want to hear is rarely a vote winner.

20 years on and we've made some progress. We can't relax though, because there are always going to be morons willing to believe what they want to believe, as opposed to what these 'so-called experts' or, as a sane person would call them, experts, tell them.

Are these experts independent or do their opinions simply reflect the opinions of their bosses or the ones who are financing them?

It would vary. Plenty of research funded by vested interests, including the incredibly powerful lobbies for say the automotive industries, who would want to pretend man-made climate change is not happening. And yet even they have had to accept it.

What research have the motor companies commissioned?

I thought that all the opposing voices to the idea of man-made climate change had been stifled.

Well, no, just given little credence as there is such overwhelming evidence of it.

The Chinese don't seem impressed by it.

Overwhelming evidence of climate change or man-made climate change?

There's a big difference there.

Probably the most notorious.

http://sumofus.org/campaigns/gm-heartland

Well obviously there is!

And of course the Chinese government, like the American government, would want to suppress it!

What is the proof that the minor change to world temperatures over the last century is mad made?
Surely if the evidence was there it would be published for all to see and put an end to the scepticism over it?

I do enjoy reading works by 'experts'..
Economic 'experts', 'terrorism' experts - the world is full of them. unfortunately they don't all arrive at the same conclusion after reviewing the same 'evidence'.
There IS a god ; there is NO god..
both from all the same 'evidence'.

Why would the Chinese or the Americans want to suppress something that is claimed will be disastrous to the world?

Surely they're simply not convinced because of the lack of tangible evidence to back up the claims.

Because it won't be disastrous YET, and in the mean time uncapped industrial growth regardless of its impact on the environment helps businessmen line their pockets and politicians stay in power.

Surely they're simply not convinced because of the lack of tangible evidence to back up the claims.'

Where to start with that?! Yes, politicians, Shell, General Motors, the tobacco industry, surely they are just being reasonably sceptical about the claims of these scientists who probably just want loads of new test tubes.

Thankfully, we finally won.

.

Won?
You're a long way from that.

No tangible evidence then?

Shame about that.

Well, yeah vast amounts, that's how we won.

:-)

Better tell India and China that you've won.
They'll tell you that you've won as well and then do nothing about it.
Like they always do.

World war coming....will wipe out 100 million people.....no need to worry about resource shortage then.

NOW you're talking.. I'll not have to worry about which recycling bag on Friday now. TY :)

Yes....chill-out

Do we have a Nuclear Missile Shield....could someone google it....may come in handy when Putin finally loses it.