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paddletoe
14 Dec 14 23:46
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My question relates to someone else but I have an interest in the outcome. Rounding up the figures a person owns a second house with a current market value of 170k and his current mortgage debt is 250k. Can he go to the bank and ask them to consider options of dealing with the 80k negative equity which would include writing off some of the debt. In other words would the bank consider selling the house to a third party for market value if the owner would split the short fall in debt - roughly 40k each which the owner of the house could finance by taking out a second mortgage on their other house?

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By:
boxingthefox
When: 14 Dec 14 23:51
What country paddletoe, Ireland, Spain?
By:
paddletoe
When: 14 Dec 14 23:54
britain
By:
Dotchinite
When: 14 Dec 14 23:57
If he has other assets why would a bank agree a write off. How much equity is in the other house.
By:
akabula
When: 14 Dec 14 23:58
If as you say he has equity in his other house then the bank will cop for that. Can't see them doing a deal.
By:
paddletoe
When: 15 Dec 14 00:01
No idea how much equity is in the other house. Obviously I don't think he can just hand in the keys to the second house otherwise he could just go bankrupt and write off the 80 odd k himself.
By:
boxingthefox
When: 15 Dec 14 00:01
How did he manage negative equity here!. I think the answer is a categorical no, It would set a precedent that the banks would not want to set. Banks are notorious in their treatment of borrowers.  My ex worked all her life in banking, when I asked her a similar sort of question some years ago she said it's against bank rules. I did not ask her to explain that, just accepted the answer.

Unless someone on here knows better?
By:
paddletoe
When: 15 Dec 14 00:03
Have not got the full details but he mentioned something along the lines I stated in my original post as a possibility. Just wanted to know if he was right and how it might work out.
By:
paddletoe
When: 15 Dec 14 00:09
He took out another mortgage on this house at around the peak time to finance a bigger house in the country and since then prices have fallen about 50% in the area I live.
By:
lfc1971
When: 15 Dec 14 00:14
Must be N. Ireland, the same thing will happen in England.
By:
boxingthefox
When: 15 Dec 14 00:16
I think he is facked. They might suggest he remortgages the house with the equity if there is enough to cover the shortfall.
By:
naydam
When: 15 Dec 14 00:20
Unfortunately, this is the darker side of 'free money'. Somebody has to pay...always.
By:
boxingthefox
When: 15 Dec 14 00:22
Loyal borrowers are being turned down for the best mortgage deals because banks are scared of breaking new rules, it has been claimed.

Homeowners who have never missed a repayment are among thousands being turned away in a crackdown on lending.

Banks and building societies admit that although they could give better deals to customers who have had mortgages for years, many may miss out because lenders fear breaching the new regulations.
Homeowners who have never missed a repayment are among thousands being turned away in a crackdown on lending, experts warn (file pic)
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Homeowners who have never missed a repayment are among thousands being turned away in a crackdown on lending, experts warn (file pic)

Even customers with excellent credit records and big deposits may be unable to lock up a cheap fixed deal. And thousands of homeowners who want to take bigger loans for a kitchen extension or loft conversion are also being denied.

It means many families face being turned into ‘mortgage prisoners’, unable to get another loan and trapped on their bank’s high rates of interest, the Council of Mortgage Lenders has warned.

They may be made to struggle further if the Bank of England hikes base rate above its current low of 0.5 per cent as expected.

The CML has demanded talks with City regulator the Financial Conduct Authority.

Read more: http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/mortgageshome/article-2738194/New-mortgage-rules-hurt-ALL-borrowers-Best-deals-denied-loyal-customers-never-miss-payment.html#ixzz3LvBN9hwo
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By:
lfc1971
When: 15 Dec 14 00:27
There is only one reason the banks don't want to lend to loyal customers and that is because they know there is a massive crash coming.
By:
Torquemada
When: 15 Dec 14 00:33
There won't be a massive crash, they'll just kick the can a bit further down the road and print some more money.
By:
boxingthefox
When: 15 Dec 14 00:41
lfc1971, that's bollix banks are sharks they will sell"products" to loyal customers regardless. My ex had 16 years branch management experience before becoming a financial advisor. as she was in the top 3 in the country for her bank year on year, we got to travel the world on Jollies called conventions, sounds better doesn't it 350 employees at a time, Best hotels (table bay at the waterfront in SA Ritz Carlton in Singapore, etc etc) + spending money helicopter trips the works.

The mantra from the top guys, from Bob diamond down on the gala night speech was how they were going to wring even more money from existing customers.
By:
lfc1971
When: 15 Dec 14 00:46
boxingthefox the banks are afraid of being left with properties that have halved in value.
By:
boxingthefox
When: 15 Dec 14 01:01
It would be more accurate to say they are wary of people going bankrupt but not afraid. they can sell their loans to other greedier banks al la the great sub prime fiasco. Banks in this country make billions on house loans they can handle the defaulters with ease.
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