Sydney Cafe Siege

where is he going to the toilet?

I hope they manage to squeeze one off into his head when he's at the window. Even better if it turns out to be a replica gun he's got.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheikh_Haron

On 15 November 2013, Haron was charged by NSW Police with being an accessory before and after the fact to the murder of Noleen Hayson Pal, allegedly stabbed and set alight in a Werrington apartment stairwell on 21 April 2013. His partner Amirah Droudis, was formally charged with Pal's murder.[10] Pal was Haron's ex-wife.

The most stooped Muslim in the world if he is thinking about martyrdom. You won't find ONE virgin in Australia let alone 72!!

I hope he reads this forum and saves everyone a lot of hassle!

5 more walk out. He must be praying

If they're as tight with the coffee as my local Starbucks he'll be fast asleep any time soon.

he'll get tired and make a mistake

Plods gone in

gunfire now

Take your Uzi, next time , Ken....I think he's getting brisk service !

pump some sleeping gas through the air conditioning system - or something like that.

Fingers crossed the Aussie police will take a very hard line indeed, and set a much-needed example to the rest of the world.

Yes, a didgeridoo up the anal passage

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOJWvZt7a5c#t=14390

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live

next time throw away the key when in custody

Emily Maitlis is saying the middle-eastern guy "took himself to the ground"

You can bet he was ordered to the ground by Police.

PC don't offend the foreigners twaddle.

Boo hoo hoo, the nasty police went in firing guns. Boo hoo hoo, his "Human Right to be a Gun-Toting Hostage Taker" wasn't protected. Boo hoo hoo, someone bring the Aussie Police to the Royal Courts of Justice in the Strand, where a British Human Rights Law firm can try to turn justice on its head.

Wa-hay, the horse Gdai Sydney wins the 3-25 at Plumpton !!

Dec 15, 2014 -- 6:58AM, HH Sultan Vinegar wrote:

he took the wrong flag  WAC

The quicker they ban this fanatical murderous religion from non Muslim countries the better .

Siege Over !

he took the wrong flag.....had he been working at Sedgefield ?

Gunman dead !

Doesn't sound like a religious thing, reports that Man Haron Monis is well known to the Australian police. The cleric is currently on bail for being an accessory to the murder of his ex-wife and is facing more than 40 sexual and indecent assault charges.

I would be shocked if wan't dead tbh. About 2000 rounds went off

"Allah is the one true god and Mohammed is his messenger" - his flag said

Hostages dead say CNN

Dec 15, 2014 -- 9:37AM, The Leopard wrote:

Gunman dead !

Ah...emmm

2 with heart attacks after being shot

leopard

Plod must have gone in after he started shooting them.

There was supposedly about 10 hostages left, we say 5 run out, it looks like he's shot the remaining 5 as CNN are reporting 2 dead and 3 injured..

Gunman plus one other hostage died reported

dear god one hostage confirmed dead, RIP

the police f..k up they had chances to take him out with snipers

Dozy muppet, what was his actual message after all that, nobody knows and this time next week nobody will care.

The Aussies won’t be happy about this.  Wouldn’t be surprised If there is a real anti Moslem backlash now.

The cronulla riots started after a few scuffles on a beach.

sky news international still reporting the siege as ongoing (do they pre-record their hourly bulletins?)

na mate - this is a knife

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any further news on the suspect package at the opera house?

Not yet...so far all the police officers have refused to look in Dame Edna's knickers

Rob Dylan , I FOOKING hope there is a backlash , we wouldn't be allowed to ,in this Hand wringing country ,in case we offended the murderers .

Comma + space

Yeah , don't know what happened there

...thing is....if there was a backlash, then a lot of innocent muslims may be affected

We need to target the extremist nutters.

The mans a wanted sex case and wanted in connection with the murder of his wife ,Gets a flag and then world coverage of death by police Isis delighted ,the ****  will be queuing up outside starbucks and Costa  as I type ,this kind of carry on is a regular occurance in States bar the flag ,we don't hear about it ...

RIP the poor people who died ,wrong place wrong time

Nothing to do with Islam Imo ,bar the world media hype ,nothing like a bit of free advertising

Extremist ,Islamist ,Terrorist words still being used ,for world news ,NONCE MAD BASTARD not suitable ..

SELF RADICALISED , LONE WOLF u cannot make it up ,he had forgotten his flag

Yes casemoney, and the sick fcuk was out on bail, also sent hate letters to wives of soldiers, seems the Aussies are as stupefied by the PC brigade as we are.

They had the shot, pull the trigger ffs. Innocent people have been murdered.

I will bet 10 on hes never owned an Isis flag

Fox, I lived and worked in Australia, it is without doubt the most compliant country I've ever been to.

The problem is this kind of absolute shyte being thrown out by the world media will only lead to more innocent people being killed

Your average true blue Aussie hates what has become of their country.

Slippy, was there a few years ago, your observations are spot on.

Slippy I was at Uluru - Ayers Rock and we were asked not to walk up it a dozen or so Chinese scrambled up as we were getting this request, One guy said to the tour guide those Chinese are a bit rude, the tour guide retorted yes mate, they're all facking retards!!

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http://collegetimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/chinese.jpg

Great episode David

Getting a bit tiresome people saying this muslim was a lone wolf or a nutter, seems to happen an awful lot for it to be nutter driven by a flawed backward religion.

Lone wolf with flag is world news ,Wanted Sex case is not ..

Trigger, pull, jobsagoodun.

The could photograph the **** but not shoot him and save lives

I presume they never sniped him because they didn't know whether his mate Abdul was sat in the cafe with him?

they could had sniped him or gassed them, you have to think australia have failed a bit like the uk would in this scenario.

There was also the chance that he had a bomb in there with a RC. I think they did all they could. They waited it out, it only went off because some more ecsaped and he saw his arse and started firing at the hostages.

Yes Ibrahima Sonko, I agree with you. The rest of us are begging the shooters to slot him to save the innocents. What a truly dreadful episode in our world that we now live in.

guinneess2dear, intelligence would have known what his intentions were and what were the possible consequences. They should have taken hum out at the first opportunity and you know that.

I'm sure that was a consideration guinness, but given his KNOWN profile and the fact that some had escaped, so must have given some intel, the "classic waiting game" seems a dubious option given the flag and headband (never ends well). Did it not occur to them that if he was alone would he could become more agitated and desperate with each passing hour without sleep.

They knew he was a criminal, and not the sharpest tool in the box.

As it was the special forces reacted, AFTER shots had been fired, Their whole Raison d'être, is to be proactive,  speed, surprise, and violence are their greatest weapons, unfortunately for the poor souls that died, speed and violence came too late.

^^^^In short snipe him and instantly go in, they had to go in anyway, it was inevitable.

You have to be careful with these Lone Wolf Types ,anyone demanding a flag is deemed extremely dangerous ,especially those who forget to bring their flags with them ,although they never owned a flag anyway,the best way of taking these extremely
dangerous individuals out, is the storm the place throwing stun grenades and tear gas with about 20 men with guns ,also wait
till its pitch black so as you can see **** all when entering the building firing guns randomnly .. This can cause the Lone Wolf to have a heart attack ,if you are lucky no hostages will be shot or die of shock ..

just when the c.i.a need to justify torture, up pops a terrorist. strange eh?

Surprised the chit chat tactical response team have a policy of less chit chat

Who lit your tampon.

^^^ didn't realise Wyatt Earp had an account here. Do you normally bet on the rodeos?

Not A Clueso, save your bleeding heart for Dwarfs, much more your make.

They may have had intelligence on him, and obviously the 'escapees' would have told of his disposition, but, he hadn't hurt anyone, and the longer it went on, the more they thought they could get them all out with no deaths (i presume) what changed everything was the escapes.

I personally, would have shot the phucker through the windows, But i also would never have slept again if he would then have detonated a bomb wiping all out. I'm glad it wasn't my choice.

I agree guinness, but this is chit chat, and we can look at all sorts of possibilities. A point lost on a few others on here.

What the Aussie authorities should be asking themselves is how the holy hell was this nobrot allowed to be walking about and on bail, considering the charges he faced.

Exactly, a point made earlier.

I was right at 10:27 then.

Just found out today that my Sydney based daughter uses that cafe regularly!

I'd have thought the best procedure was to chuck in a stun or two at once, wait until they finish, then ASAP run in when your bad guy was "stunned", before he has time to think and react. The footage seemed to show them throwing in a series of them over a fair period of time waiting until each finished, then eventually they go in. The entire time he could have been firing at last place he knew people were or worse.

Source: Armchair General Magazine (Christmas Edition)

theres no way 2 members of the public should be killed the police had so many chances to take him out with snipers

I think what put them off that course of action was the fact the nutter had a rucksack strapped to his back

Is it just me or did the Aussies fire a hell of a lot of bullets at ONE man....

All a bit American if you ask me.

Humane killing. You should never leave a wounded animal to suffer. Especially if he's in a hurry to get into 'Paradise'.

Haven't a clueso^^^ didn't realise Wyatt Earp had an account here. Do you normally bet on the rodeos?

A worthy contribution to this thread, NOT

^^^ ffs have you escaped out of your box again?

Is that the best you can do.

Seems you are just a sniper(pardon the pun) useful at sniping at other posts without actually stating an opinion of your own, how facking useless are you.

Well I'm off to bed now, but don't worry, this will run and run and run, you don't get off the hook this easy. BTW I bumped into an acquaintance of yours, he said everyone who knows you calls you "Thursh" when I asked why , he replied you're a facken irritant you are also a ****.

When those 5 escaped, but the manager didn't, got to think he was taking one for the team.  Probably sticking to that old thing about Captain being last to leave the ship. Fair play to him, hope they paid his overtime.

http://www.steynonline.com/6711/i-wish-that-bird-would-fly-away

"But what does he know? He's just the terrorist. "

looks like the gunman is going to have a problem being buried.

"Australian Muslim funeral directors have vowed not to accept the body of Sydney gunman Man Haron Monis, saying authorities should dump his corpse at sea or “chuck him in the bloody sh1thouse”.

The 50 year old's body will be released before Christmas as soon as autopsies are completed but no one has claimed it, the Australian Daily Telegraph reported.

Amin Sayed, a funeral director with the Lebanese Muslim Association, told the newspaper neither he nor any other establishments would perform the rites.

“We don’t care about him, we don’t know him, chuck him in the bloody sh1thouse,” he said. “Nobody’s going to do his funeral, no Muslim funeral home will accept him. They can throw him in the bloody sea.”

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/sydney-siege-muslim-funeral-directors-tell-authorities-to-dump-man-haron-monis-body-in-the-shouse-9935176.html

is this worse than someone stabbing 8 kids to death,at least he thought he was fighting for something
americans go into meltdown over terrorist attacks but take 2 or 3 school massacres a year by one of their own in their stride,put woh betide anyone suggesting a gun ban

but they went stabbed because someone told her to do it in an holy book