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HH Sultan Vinegar
11 Dec 14 10:48
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Pre-match song trivialises violence against women, claims former Plaid Cymru president

Delilah, a Tom Jones classic, and Welsh rugby anthem, is according to one senior politician a murder ballad and is no longer an appropriate song of choice for the masses at the Millennium Stadium.

Delilah acts as a secondary national anthem for Wales, one shared by supporters of Stoke City, with the Welsh Rugby Union displaying the lyrics on the big screen before matches. Yet the song itself, recorded in 1968, centres around the revenge killing of a woman by a scorned lover.
Should this matter? La Marseillaise and Flower of Scotland also feature exhortations to violence but Dafyyd Iwan, a former Plaid Cymru president and an accomplished folk singer himself, says the iconic ballad should be abandoned for promoting domestic violence.
“It is a song about murder and it does tend to trivialise the idea of murdering a woman and it's a pity these words now have been elevated to the status of a secondary national anthem,” Iwan said. “I think we should rummage around for another song instead of Delilah.”

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/international/wales/11286232/Welsh-rugby-chiefs-urged-to-ban-Tom-Jones-Delilah-before-matches-at-Millennium-Stadium.html

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By:
MisterBadger
When: 11 Dec 14 10:58
ffs  Laugh
By:
Ramruma
When: 11 Dec 14 11:09
They are right, of course, but you have to wonder about the timing of this. Is there an election coming up and is Plaid Cymru lagging in the polls? (Yes and yes.)

The FA Cup Final includes singing Abide With Me -- does this exclude non-Christians? Does the FA realise the hymn is about someone dying?
By:
alun2005
When: 11 Dec 14 11:11
I am a Wales fan, and I can't bear the 'Delilah' nonsense at the match either. And it has nothing to do with the "murder ballad" thing either.
By:
HH Sultan Vinegar
When: 11 Dec 14 11:19
you don't seem to hear Sosban Fach these days. Was it phased out to health & safety issues with the boiling saucepan?
By:
Crisp77
When: 11 Dec 14 11:24
Tom Jones was not shocked by the request for him to sing another song. He said "It's not unusual" Plain
By:
flushgordon1
When: 11 Dec 14 11:27
green green grass of homos
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 11 Dec 14 11:30
1.01 landed
By:
Early Morning Riser
When: 11 Dec 14 12:59
this is going to be the new song to replace delilah.   
https://soundcloud.com/hawthorn-entertainment/sets/dennis-lang-1
By:
Ken Masters
When: 11 Dec 14 13:02
"Smack My B1tch Up" will be used temporarily until a permanent replacement can be found.
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 11 Dec 14 13:29
I nominate No Sheep Till Buxton - Macc Lads
By:
stickyvicky
When: 11 Dec 14 13:44
Bread of Heaven, Bread of Heaven, feed me til I want no more.
Promotes obesity, should be banned.
By:
casemoney
When: 11 Dec 14 13:46
Perhaps The Green Green grass would be more suitable ,featuring a man who is about to be hung ,this would certainly get any feminists on board ..
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 11 Dec 14 14:07
alun2005     11 Dec 14 11:11 
I am a Wales fan, and I can't bear the 'Delilah' nonsense at the match either. And it has nothing to do with the "murder ballad" thing either.


Don't be so sure. I present The Curse of Milford Haven...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS5QlPMYeBU
By:
Ivor
When: 11 Dec 14 14:25
The Sultan knows his music.. not only the dangers of boily water but that of infection when the cat scratches little Johnnie!
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 11 Dec 14 14:35
Should ban the Samson & Delilah story from the Bible too. Any suggestion that a woman might betray a man for money is clearly misogynistic nonsense.
By:
donny osmond
When: 11 Dec 14 15:18
why , why, why ?
By:
call me a taxi
When: 11 Dec 14 17:20
screaming from beneaththewaves    11 Dec 14 14:35 
Should ban the Samson & Delilah story from the Bible too. Any suggestion that a woman might betray a man for money is clearly misogynistic nonsense.


They should ban people for misquoting the bible.

Delilah never cut Samson's hair, she got a servant girl to do it.
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