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I have forked out £260 for a one day course or whatever you call it on 2 Jan. If it doesnt work you get your money back, no questions asked. A bare minimum of online research suggests they are true to their word. Personally I hate smoking, it is clearly nicotine addiction. In the early days it was just when I was drinking, but now i have one soon after I wake up. 2 smoke breaks before lunch. 2 smoke breaks after lunch. And quite a lot in the evening. Probably 10-15 per day. There are plenty who smoke more than that no doubt, but I hate it. Hate the fact I am enslaved by this awful addiction which costs money and makes you stink and diminishes your sporting ability and has so many detrimental health problems it aint funny. Anyone tried Alan Carr?
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Go on the vapes, Rob.
There's nothing wrong with nicotine. In fact, it's been shown to be a great anti-Alzheimer's drug (as even mentioned by that doctor who is so up in the world with IVF, on The Wright Show, a few months ago). It's the rest of the 4000 odd chemicals in tobacco that does the harm. |
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No smell, health complications, etc etc on the e-cigs (vapes).
Just imbibing pure nicotine. Excellent stuff. Saves a fortune too. |
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I'm amazed that you did all that marathon training Rob whilst being a smoker. Can't have been easy.
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Nicotine is addictive. I dont want it. I read, but didnt finish, his book. He has two big all encompassing reasons as to why people smoke.
1. Nicotine addiction 2. Brainwashing His theory is also that no one actually wants to smoke.(i know I dont), but some people pretend they do for various reasons. Would any of the smokers on here recommend it to their children! I doubt it. Apparently there is some sort of hypnotherapy involved, fk it, worse that can happen is I get my money back. |
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I gave up using Zyban a drug that over a few weeks, simply removes the desire to smoke. First time I used it I managed a year and then smoked just the one because I thought I had beaten it. Next time was five years ago and no **** since.
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Rob, the man has books/a method to sell.
He'll say whatever he likes to make himself more money. |
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He's dead. Died of lung cancer
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Caffeine is addictive.
You don't see anyone making a big deal about how many people frequent Starbucks and the rest of the cr@ppy coffee shops do you? That's because they have nothing to sell. |
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Doantwineasy... Anyone can run 20 miles with a bit of training. I was doing 9 minute miles, i did a 5k park run in 20:55. My hope is that I will do 8 minute miles for 20 miles and a park run in well under 20 minutes if I pack up the smokes.
By the way I didnt do the marathon in the end as I had a cold come the big day. I spend at least a month every winter with a cold, and this is blatantly due to smoking. I hate smoking. |
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Fair enough, Dobbo.
His estate will say whatever they like to make themselves more money. |
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I dont drink coffee. And very seldom tea. Caffeine doesnt give you lung cancer either. Come on Tommy. Smoking is sh1t. It only makes you feel better because it releases the stress that it put there in the first place. Self fulfilling prophecy.
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I'm just trying to say that 'smoking' e-cigs is giving you the 'hit' you like with tobacco without any of the nasty stuff involved with tobacco.
Nicotine isn't the problem, as such, it's the rest of the cr@p in tobacco which is the problem. Read up on it. I know I did when I changed to the vapes. Three years ago last August now - and I was a 'professional smoker' and had no intention of giving tobacco up. |
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Ok mate. I did try some sort of e cig a few years back and smoked it in the pub but used to go outside for a proper smoke on top. So it didnt work for me. I just want rid of the whole disgusting habit. I hate it.
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fair play to you for putting the hours in Rob.
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Fair enough Rob.
But if you change your mind, this is the best vaping company out there: http://www.vapeescape.co.uk/ Type in ECR69 to get 10% off any order you make. |
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Dontwin2easy...
I am still doing the brighton marathon in april and aiming for sub 4 hours. I have a good base due to my previous training. Would really love to beat my workmates' time of 3:49 tbh. |
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I've managed not to smoke since mid-October - except for one cigarette, which tasted ghastly. I was previously on 20 a day.
The money I'm saving - thus far around £360 - is a motivation for me. |
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Was that through blind will power Muntz? If so good luck to you.
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I was sitting at home one morning, and was down to my last cigarette. I realised that I'd need to go to the cashpoint to get the money to buy another packet.
This struck me as absurd, so I decided to do without - though in all honesty I only expected to manage a day or two. I suppose I've taken it one day at a time. |
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its all physiological Im afraid....
If someone offer a million pound cheque for giving up the cigs for a year....I reckon 99% of people on here would give up no problem. |
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yep. read his books and eventually it worked.
at some point the penny will drop. it's one thing reading the words, another accepting them, and that's what the course is supposed to help hugely with. you should end up reframing the feeling of nicotine withdrawal as something positive. |
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(and it's Allen Carr, rather than Alan Carr who is the gapped toothed tw@t on channel 4)
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£260 for a days course ! You must be desperate . Just buy the books !
Why don't you get some self discipline and resolve and just quit. Go cold turkey. It only takes a few days for the real craving to subside. Then about a fortnight to really break away from the addiction.There's all sorts of distraction / avoiding methods to keep mind occupied. I smoked 30 a day for 25 years, and quit. Made the decision I didn't want to die of cancer. Quite simple. |
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£260 is an absolute bargain if it works. I'd pay ten times that if someone could guarantee I will never smoke again and will never want to.
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No amount of anyone ' telling you' what you should do will work. At the end of the day it comes down to you. And you alone versus the ' worm in your head ' whispering in your ear.
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But, with the greatest of respect Facts, you're a clown. You're stances on various matters is so inconsistent. Of course getting help can, well, help.
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well Facts, it seems extremely odd to be giving someone "advice" not to try something, when it will cost him nothing if it doesn't work.
this is all about getting an idea ingrained in your mind. what works or worked for you may not work for others. given that the course has worked for thousands of people, what possible reasons do you have for dissuading rob from attending. What's more "There's all sorts of distraction / avoiding methods to keep mind occupied." would suggest you didn't use the Allen Carr method. |
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Facts 08 Dec 14 10:16
I smoked 30 a day for 25 years, and quit. Made the decision I didn't want to die of cancer. Quite simple. There are no bounds to my admiration of your self expressed resolve and self-discipline, Facts, however, whilst, to a current smoker, there is nothing worse than an evangelical ex-smoker expressing their disgust at the habit, there is also nothing worse to the current smoker who is exploring ways to give up than having an ex-smoker bragging about their own resolve and self-discipline in packing them in. p.s. good luck rd. |
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it's easy just switch to cigars
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If you're going down the Alan Carr road, you'll need plenty of drive.
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Clouseau 08 Dec 14 10:54
Facts 08 Dec 14 10:16 I smoked 30 a day for 25 years, and quit. Made the decision I didn't want to die of cancer. Quite simple. There are no bounds to my admiration of your self expressed resolve and self-discipline, Facts, however, whilst, to a current smoker, there is nothing worse than an evangelical ex-smoker expressing their disgust at the habit, there is also nothing worse to the current smoker who is exploring ways to give up than having an ex-smoker bragging about their own resolve and self-discipline in packing them in. p.s. good luck rd. I don't recall stating i was disgusted with the habit. I wasn't then or even now. I enjoyed smoking, and even now 20 odd years after giving up there are times when I'd love one. I had tried many times to give up, using various methods. But in the end , it's yourself that has to beat the habit. And you will only do that if your resolve is stronger than the desire to smoke. |
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I enjoyed smoking, and even now 20 odd years after giving up there are times when I'd love one
This method means you won't miss it. In theory. Wanting a smoke but not having one sounds sh1te to me. Can your "oh it is just self-discipline" mantra be extrapolated to all people and all circumstances? |
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Don't believe you'll ' never ' miss it.
Not as drastic, but it's like an alcoholic and drink. If they stop drinking , they know they're only one drink away from going down the bad road again. But do you think they think about alcohol a lot ? Do you think they miss drinking ? You bet they do. Anyway good luck rob. I know we don't see eye to eye on things. But I hope you succeed in this. |
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Facts, I did not intend to include you in the "ex-smoker / disgust" part of that. I was trying to compare the evangelical ex-smoker to the folk who generally come on threads like this, where someone is trying alternative methods, adding little more than a self satisfied story of how they, themselves, gave up using nothing more than will power.
Some people, and I include myself, find themselves needing a bit more than that, and I fully accept that as being somewhat of an admittance of a certain weakness. I still get that from people I am walking past in the street who see me with the vape machine and feel it necessary to stop me to let me know how they managed the struggle unaided and just decided to quit smoking one day and stuck to it. Whilst I nod approval at their powers of self denial, it doesn't actually help me; if anything it makes me feel a bit sh1ttier for not being capable to give up that way myself and having to rely on outside help. Hope you get my drift. |
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Ok. Hope you break the habit too. It's a cliche I know , but it really is one of the best decisions you can ever make.
Good luck |
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i gave up on october 10th,cold turkey,don't feel any better but at least i dont stink ,got rid of lots of nasty black speckled phlem also,was 15 a day for 20 years+
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I'm not a smoker but it seems to me that whilst the vast majority of smokers are addicted to nicotine, some are more addicted than others.
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think i put this on here before
but i was on 20-30 a day around 8 years ago made the decision to give up and did as follows !)set a date roughly two months ahead 2)went away on that date(take you out of normal environment) 3)always keep a few **** in the packet to give/throw away at that time 4)last **** will taste like sh1t 5)does require a limited amount of will power. personally think 2 and 3 were most important when i gave up |
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There are loads of people out there who only have as little as 10 smokes a week - normally when out on the lash. I know a few like this, mainly younger than me. Don't know if they will progress from this to being like me.. I started out in the same way, normally just cadging off others. And, like I say, it is 15 a day here. plenty of people are on 20, 40 60+ a day.
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