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A US space capsule that could help get humans to Mars is about to make its maiden flight.

Orion will be launched on a Delta rocket out of Cape Canaveral in Florida on a short journey above the Earth to test key technologies.

The conical vessel is reminiscent of the Apollo command ships that took men to the Moon in the 1960s and 1970s, but bigger and with cutting-edge systems.

Given that this is a first outing, there will be no people aboard.

Nonetheless, the US space agency describes the demonstration as a major event.

Nasa has a window in which to launch Orion of about two-and-a-half hours, which began at 07:05 local time (12:05 GMT).

The launch preparations had to be stopped shortly before the opening of the window because a boat strayed into the eastern part of the launch range. After that, the countdown had to be held because of strong winds and a technical issue.

"This is huge; Thursday is a giant day for us," said Nasa administrator Charlie Bolden.

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By:
Degs
When: 04 Dec 14 14:40
Launch is scrubbed for today
By:
The Leopard
When: 04 Dec 14 14:40
Scrubbed ....tomorrow perhaps. Plain
By:
guinness2dear
When: 04 Dec 14 14:40
Too sunny?

Low sun?
By:
boxingthefox
When: 04 Dec 14 14:50
I thought mars was in Slough, you can go there anytime.
By:
naydam
When: 04 Dec 14 14:54
Not with a rocket.  ShockedShockedCool
By:
naydam
When: 04 Dec 14 14:59
It'll be a good shot from America. Just look at the Moon shots. The first couple of them missed, but they got their rockets back...and the Moon's a lot bigger than Slough! Although it IS further, I suppose.  DevilDevilGrin
By:
boxingthefox
When: 04 Dec 14 15:11
Wrong, I believe Ronnie has been there.
By:
boxingthefox
When: 04 Dec 14 15:11
Not with a rocket.  ^^^^^^^
By:
tictacman1
When: 04 Dec 14 15:49
The US space agency (Nasa) has aborted the launch of its Orion Mars capsule test mission, amid technical issues.

The spacecraft had been due to launch on a short journey above the Earth to test key technologies - Nasa will try again in 24 hours.

The maiden flight had been due to take place from Cape Canaveral in Florida between 12:05GMT and 14:44 GMT.

But the countdown was held several times, due to a boat getting too close, winds and technical issues.

Finally, space agency officials were forced to scrub Thursday's launch.
By:
boxingthefox
When: 04 Dec 14 15:54
naydam, it's a very tenuous connection, apparently Ronnie (the rocket)O Sullivan paid a visit to the Mars factory some years ago. some promo I think?
By:
The Leopard
When: 05 Dec 14 12:06
Launched !
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 05 Dec 14 12:15
Russia are trying to get to mars too, I ask, is it really worth it, don't want to p on anyone's parade but is there an actual point in a human being on mars other than an egotistical thing to say you got there first, it's like the moon, nobody has been back since, and for good reason, there was no point going in the first place, there are many many people in america (richest country on earth) who are destitute and living off of food tokens, government should spend people's money on people's lives not on fantasiesScared
By:
The Leopard
When: 05 Dec 14 12:34
Why should we go to Mars?

Why did Columbus travel west? Why did Marco Polo head east? Because it is that pull, that unknown, that prospect of adventure that compels humans to seek new frontiers to explore.

There are a number of reasons to travel to Mars.

The first is the realization of an amazing dream! Sending a manned mission to Mars is a fantastic adventure. Imagine living on another planet, millions of miles from the Earth; looking up into the sky with the knowledge that one of the 'stars' is actually the planet you were born on. Who can even envision the incredible feeling of being the first human in history to step out of the capsule and leave your footprint on the surface of Mars? By this we implore you to not just think of that feeling for the astronaut, but the experience for all those watching back home. Those who observed Neil Armstrong land on the Moon all those years ago still remember every detail – where they were, who they were with and how they felt. This will be our moment, in 2025.

A second reason is good, old-fashioned curiosity. Where did Mars come from? Can it teach us about Earth's history? Is there life on Mars? These are just three of the hundreds of burning questions for scientists all over the world.

Thirdly: progress. You could say that sending people to Mars is 'the next giant leap for mankind'. This mission will jumpstart massive developments in all kinds of areas, a few examples being in recycling, solar energy, food production and the advancement of medical technology.

- See more at: http://www.mars-one.com/faq/mission-to-mars/why-should-we-go-to-mars#sthash.VnqlQV7m.dpuf
By:
The Leopard
When: 05 Dec 14 12:37
More reasons :

To give our kids new Hope, careers and Dreams -- beyond merely surviving in a world of growing terrorism, more “police state” responses, with increasing resource and energy scarcity ultimately leading to endless global wars



To finally shift Mankind’s perspectives from “us against them,” to “we’re all one human Family,” with a resultant dramatic lessening of Conflict -- by finding actual evidence of extraterrestrial life to compare ourselves against … be it “merely” microbes, or even something more …



By finally opening up unlimited solar system resources -- be it exotic fuels, new planetary minerals or endless solar energy – dramatically alter the “have not” competition between the First and Third Worlds here on Earth … the ultimate source of increasing global terrorism



By setting sufficiently high goals – permanent human occupation of the Moon, then on to Mars – maintain the leadership role of the United States, by revolutionizing our current lagging technological and economic infrastructure … similar to Project Apollo jump-starting a sleepy 1950’s America into the 21st Century



By greatly accelerating these radical technologies -- from “black” energy systems and propulsion to autonomous robotics, from desktop “super computers” to their ultra-broad band communications (essential to conducting “routine operations” on the Moon and Beyond) – dramatically accelerate overall national and global productivity, with startling increases in GNP and GWP



By federally subsidizing the creation of a whole new generation of consumer industries -- through pioneering a literal “Second age of Space” -- dramatically increase the historical “return on investment” from past NASA spending … from 23 to one to more than 100-to-one; thus, for every billion dollars invested in this New Space Program, over a hundred billion will return to the national and world economy



By creating a global generation of “rich” humans, without adverse environmental consequences, peacefully reduce the growing pressures of global population – as historical data from the United States and Europe overwhelmingly has demonstrated that increasing personal wealth is the best “voluntary birth control”



By finally providing accessible new sources of raw materials and energy “off planet,” processed in lunar and orbital industrial facilities, naturally reverse over a century of planetary degradation and pollution … including global warming



By accelerating fundamental solar system exploration with human beings, return equally fundamental, radical scientific information – ranging from comparative planetary data which will assist preservation of the Earth’s environment through new space installations, to answers to the origin of the human race itself



By physically exploring our own solar system from a position of unimagined wealth and capability, someday answer the most haunting question of them all: are we the only intelligent species ever to have lived under this Sun … or, did someone come Before?
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 05 Dec 14 12:46
leopard, do you know what the climate is like on mars, a mars mission is nothing but a space enthusiasts wet dream, it's a gigantic, barren, featureless, red dust ball with an atmosphere 100 times thinner that Earth, no prospect for humans to live there at all, all that is needed there at most are space robots
By:
Degs
When: 05 Dec 14 12:52
None of that stuff comes from NASA. NASA does not have funding for a manned mission to Mars at present.

The Mars One project is a privately funded one-way mission which looks awfully like a disaster waiting to happen.
By:
Crisp77
When: 05 Dec 14 13:09
The Mars landings should be better viewing than the Moon landings. What with CGI technology these days. Mischief
By:
The Leopard
When: 05 Dec 14 16:00
Splash-down expected near 16:30.
By:
naydam
When: 05 Dec 14 16:48
It is like any other development since time began. Why did Mankind invent the wheel...why not go straight to inventing diesel trucks for transport? Why invent the abacus or slide-rule...why not go straight to the calculator?
The reason is that ALL inventions and progress are achieved in  series of steps. The problem with a lot of people is that they can't seem to accept that the present time is merely a part of this continuous development of achievements and knowledge.
I generations to come you will be viewed as part of a history lesson which covers one of the more boring periods of time when very little changed. Everything is relative.

Personally, I think that just about the biggest leap forward in Man's history came with the realisation that boiling water created immense power.
Just my opinion.
By:
The Leopard
When: 05 Dec 14 17:34
^ Train spotter ?
By:
themightymac
When: 05 Dec 14 18:26
scandanavian - the long term plan is for the colonists to recreate an atmosphere with the introduction of plant life.
By:
The Leopard
When: 05 Dec 14 19:51
Personally, I think that just about the biggest leap forward in Man's history came with the realisation that boiling water created immense power.

...Steam Train....I was thinking....oc.
By:
Ovalman.
When: 05 Dec 14 21:43
Billing this as the Mars rocket is nonsense, the rockets that put men on the Moon could have done that.

I'd rather we went back to the Moon and made an outpost there. It's a lot less expensive, conditions are no worse and it's a lot easier to get to.

The longest anyone has been in space is just over a year, Mars is a 3 year project and there are many more hazards to deal with.

Mars won't happen in our lifetime but I think China will land on the Moon by 2025. Living there is another thing.
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