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Velasquez
10 Nov 14 22:21
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Seems to be a forgotten figure. Anybody read any books about him? My uncle served in Aden - he only had good things to say about him. They talked about disbanding the Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders and some high-up dude called them "A bunch of Glasgow thugs."

There was a good documentary on a few years back..."Mad Mitch" involved in mine clearance too, btw...

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By:
akabula
When: 10 Nov 14 22:25
I vividly remember the picture that appeared in the press at the time of him marching into Aden with the pipers just behind him.
By:
Velasquez
When: 10 Nov 14 22:28
Think he went in with 12 pipers and then locked the place down...in another era, could probably have been a Napoleon type figure.
By:
Velasquez
When: 10 Nov 14 22:29
The bank became the centre of command...had snipers on the roof...
By:
Velasquez
When: 10 Nov 14 22:39
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orde_Wingate#mediaviewer/File:Orde_Wingate_Ethiopia.jpg

Orde Wingate...Crazy?? OR Cool?? OR Crazy AND Cool
By:
call me a taxi
When: 10 Nov 14 23:19
Wasn't he in Angola on the early 70s?
By:
call me a taxi
When: 10 Nov 14 23:20
in, not on... ffs
By:
Velasquez
When: 10 Nov 14 23:37
Well, he worked as a "military advisor" after he left the army so it's very possible. Think he also helped train the Mujaheddin when the Soviet Union invaded...?
By:
Velasquez
When: 10 Nov 14 23:41
Quite funny that, when Carlos the Jackal gives interviews, he raves about the British army and British diplomats, saying how much he admires them...Laugh
By:
sofiakenny
When: 10 Nov 14 23:48
the guy was a nutjob.
By:
Velasquez
When: 10 Nov 14 23:55
Mine clearance, Sofia...he eventually regretted the "mad" image, etc...he walked over 100 miles through Afghanistan and Pakistan, studying the landscape and how best to clear mines. He was a pioneer re. mine clearance.


What about Lawrence of Arabia - you could say he was a nutjob too...or Orde Wingate and plenty of others...General Gordon...US General Patton...in war, you need guys like that.
By:
sofiakenny
When: 11 Nov 14 00:16
detached from reality/normality=nutter
By:
sofiakenny
When: 11 Nov 14 00:17
plenty blood on his hands .
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 11 Nov 14 09:10
Ever read Men At Arms by Evelyn Waugh? One of the characters, Ben Richie-Hook, is one of those ferocious military mavericks.

It's well done, because there's an undertone of loneliness and sadness behind the image.
By:
Velasquez
When: 11 Nov 14 12:14
No, haven't read it - that is GOLD...sounds good. Ta, Screaming.

Sofia - how do you define reality / normality? For a start, you could say that soldiers at war is not a "normal" business - that sea of poppies at the Tower of London ; is that "normal" ?
By:
HH Sultan Vinegar
When: 11 Nov 14 12:30
speaking of Aden, as a youngster on a summer job I worked with an ex marine who'd fought in the Radfan. A real hard case geordie he would happily tell me stories about his days as a "cheese-wire man" in 45 Commando.
One of his tales concerned bringing back the head of an SAS man who'd been captured & decapitated by the tribesmen. Something he said, iirc that was mentioned in Parliament at the time.
By:
Ken Masters
When: 11 Nov 14 14:39
Was that Michael, the porter at the Linton Travel Tavern?
By:
HH Sultan Vinegar
When: 11 Nov 14 14:40
haha no Wink
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 11 Nov 14 14:57
If you read Men At Arms, Velasquez, you may find yourself wanting to complete the Sword Of Honour trilogy (Officers And Gentlemen and Unconditional Surrender). Richie Hook turns up again, in Yugoslavia among the quarrelling partisans, in the last book.

Without giving away what happens, it's made clear that the motivation for these ferocious, fearless and unprincipled warriors is fighting as an end in itself rather than for any particular cause. Richie-Hook doesn't have really much else in his life on which to fall back.
By:
curious-cat
When: 11 Nov 14 15:18
Mad Mitch ~ born and raised in London
By:
akabula
When: 11 Nov 14 15:50
Both his parents were Scottish, a fact which gave him great pride in all things Scottish.
As an aside I always bet Ypres, no matter it's odds, because of the connection.
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