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paddletoe
29 Oct 14 16:01
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Got a new laptop yesterday and I cant get used to the new touchpad on it. I would not be seeking a full refund. I would like to exchange it for a different model, probably more expensive. It was bought from pc world/curry's and I paid £130 extra for virus software and other extras which the store installed for me.
Is a laptop something you can not return unless there is a fault etc?

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By:
mememe
When: 29 Oct 14 16:37
plug a mouse in it
By:
Dotchinite
When: 29 Oct 14 16:37
An unwanted product can be returned within 21 days of delivery as long as it's still in original, unopened packaging.

Returns and exchanges can only be processed with proof of purchase. This can be the sales receipt, a bank statement or an online sales invoice.

We cannot return unwanted items after 21 days of purchase, nor can we return items that have been used.

In accordance with your rights when you purchase goods online, unwanted products can be returned open so long as you let us know you want to return them within 14 calendar days from the day after delivery. They must include all original packaging, be in ‘as new’ condition and must not have been used, installed or had any data input on them.

Items delivered direct from the Manufacturer cannot be returned to one of our stores.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 29 Oct 14 17:21
tell them after a while being on a blue screen message appears and you lose all your work. you can't trust the machine and would like your cash back.
By:
Stow_judge
When: 29 Oct 14 17:33
£130 wasted surely? Free anti virus software readily available. This plus free Microsoft securities essential and some free spyware software would have been sufficient.
By:
Stow_judge
When: 29 Oct 14 17:34
security
By:
ebulGery
When: 29 Oct 14 17:36
If you cannot get a refund, I would persevere with it

You may find you just need time to adjust

I do have a touch screen laptop

But I had to adjust to using an Ipad as well.

I would zoom in and out a lot to make sure my fingers hit the spotLaugh

unless you have exceptionally fat fingers

just an opinion
By:
ebulGery
When: 29 Oct 14 17:40
I do not have a touch careen laptop
By:
PatraTheCat
When: 29 Oct 14 18:05
Thanks for clearing that up!
By:
akabula
When: 29 Oct 14 18:19
No way have you any rights left, if there is nothing wrong with the laptop, after having software installed and using it.
It will now be viewed as second hand.
By:
naydam
When: 29 Oct 14 18:39
Paddletoe. Best thing would be to act quickly, rather than delaying. Personally, I think that you have every right to a complete refund...but that is just my opinion.
Do not use the laptop any more until you resolve this issue.

Tell them ASAP that you don't like it and find it difficult to use. You might need evidence of your complaint and their reply...with dates.
If you can't get satisfaction: Call somebody like the 'Rip-off Britain team' for some legal advice.

But NOTHING is going to happen unless you try to return the laptop and THEY refuse a refund. This is obviously your FIRST course of action...you can't sort out a problem that doesn't, as yet, exist.
By:
akabula
When: 29 Oct 14 18:47
You might need evidence of your complaint

His complaint is he doesn't like it, what evidence can he produce?
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 29 Oct 14 18:50
Hardly ever use a touchpad, plug a mouse in instead.

These laptops always come with Windows installed.
If you manage to find one without Windows installed, you'd think they'd be the difference cheaper like PC's but they're not.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 29 Oct 14 18:53
Most retailers bend over backwards for you these days.
I returned a telly to John Lewis simply because I didn't like it.

Brilliant company John Lewis.
By:
naydam
When: 29 Oct 14 19:04
Aka. Evidence as the case of 'recorded evidence'. Something he can produce later, if required.
By:
akabula
When: 29 Oct 14 19:08
But he doesn't have any. All he can do is hope they let him change it and they probably will although he will be out of pocket for the £130 I would think. As to consumer rights he has none given that the laptop isn't faulty.
By:
paddletoe
When: 29 Oct 14 19:39
Thanks for the replies. I appreciate this is not like most items which you can easily exchange. Obviously I cant return it in its unopened packaging.
To be fair the £130 I paid did not really cost me anything. It included anti virus stuff and some other things most of which I probably wont use but included in the price was setting up the laptop in store ready for immediate use and the couple of hours it would have taken me to do this myself yesterday would have cost me more than the amount I paid.

The laptop works fine, so I will probably end up keeping it and let my wife use it when she needs it. Its fine for my own needs when I am just browsing online.
But the touchpad mouse and especially the right and left click functions on the touchpad are a real hassle. I cant seem to have as much control over moving the mouse quickly and accurately. The right and left click functions also need a lot of pressure applied to use them. Some days I can be using my laptop to do sports bets 10 hours a day and I use the r/l click functions hundreds if not thousands of times. On my old laptop I just needed to lightly press both button. On this one I think I would get repetitive strain injury within a few days.
By:
paddletoe
When: 29 Oct 14 19:43
Anyone recommend another laptop with a really good touchpad mouse feature and light on the touch r/l functions. Would a touch screen laptop be better for my particular uses. I mean are touch screens reliable and do the pages open up quickly when touched. Would it be faster to go to and from several minimised webpages with a touch screen.
By:
pixie
When: 29 Oct 14 20:03
Have you read Mememe's post? Why don't you just plug in a mouse?
By:
paddletoe
When: 29 Oct 14 20:10
Yes, I will try a mouse. That would be suitable sometimes if I was sitting at a desk but most of the time I use my laptop I have the laptop on the arm of a chair so I don't have any room to use a mouse.
By:
Roger The Butler
When: 29 Oct 14 21:54
Take it back. I had exactly the same thing a couple of months ago.

Bought a Sony and hated the touchpad - way too sensitive so took it back. Told them it didn't have some of the functions it was supposed to have and they just exchanged it without querying for a different laptop (went for a Toshiba).

The day after taking that one home the Toshiba froze about 20 seconds after being turned on each time, requiring shutdown each time. Took that back and told them, they didn't try it to check, and as I liked the laptop they just gave me a straight swap.

They were really good with me on both occasions and as long as you are wanting to get a replacement model from them rather than scarper with your cash they should do it. Definitely don't put up with a product you don't like.

Tell them the machine keeps intermittently freezing and the battery only lasts about half of the stated time. On reflection, you'd rather swap it for a ***, whatever you want instead. Virtually guarantee you they will do it.
By:
Roger The Butler
When: 29 Oct 14 21:55
Sorry, should have said that mine was with Curry's/PC World too.
By:
doantwin2easy
When: 29 Oct 14 22:00
did this 3 years ago with Curry's. Said I couldn't get on with it (was sht in reality and they probably knew it).

No quibbles exchange for another machine.
By:
paddletoe
When: 29 Oct 14 22:05
Thanks Roger. The new laptop I got is a Toshiba. Not sure of the model. The issues I have are not issues most people would have but for the specific use I require a laptop the precision and ease of movement of the mouse is very important. And you really need to put a lot of pressure on the right/left function. I literally use these features thousands of times each day.
Think about it overnight. My wife thinks the new laptop is fine but she just uses computers for browsing.
By:
Roger The Butler
When: 29 Oct 14 22:13
Each to their own - has to be right for you. There is so much difference between all of them in terms of how the keypad and buttons feel and operate that there will be others much better for you. Don't keep one you don't like just for your wife. After all, she's only browsing pics of hung men to make up for your inadequacies.
By:
paddletoe
When: 29 Oct 14 22:28
No, she sneaks off with her iPhone to watch them kind of things.
My fault for not checking enough on the new laptop. My old one stopped suddenly so immediately went and got a new one. Decided to go for a mid price one with the same features on paper as my old one. Never even thought about checking the mouse movements. The main thing is you need to apply a lot of finger pressure to keep the right/left functions down until it clicks and keep it pressed down with pressure. With my old one I just need to tap it down with virtually no pressure.
Looking at some other ones now on their website. Happy to spend a fair bit more money if they will let me exchange it for a new better model so hopefully they will. Only problem is that it has my username on the present one and also other software which I paid extra for.
By:
Roger The Butler
When: 29 Oct 14 23:03
The username thing shouldn't be a problem - will be a fairly simple way of restoring the laptop to its factory settings (I did this myself after searching it online) to get rid of my username and automatic email sign-in when I logged on. As long as you still have the receipt they should be able to put the software on the new one for you.
By:
naydam
When: 30 Oct 14 00:55
Akabula. By 'recorded evidence that he can produce later" I mean an email showing the time, date and nature if his dissatisfaction with the laptop, plus his request for refund/exchange/whatever AND THEIR REPLY to his email. Alternatively, a signed refusal by the store representative.
But, if you note, I DID point out that, as he has not yet even informed them of his dissatisfaction, OR his desire for a refund/whatever, there is not actually any problem. He should give them the opportunity first. IF they refuse, THEN he should obtain recorded evidence...otherwise he can't prove that it wasn't six or seven weeks before he decided 'not to like it'. By that time his rights to refund would be few/none.

I would say he's shouting 'Ow!' before he's been hit!  LaughLaugh
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