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No - clearly not. Give me a few minutes and I'll explain.
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No, because one of these Gods does not stand for killing but love...Simple.
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some people think they do.........i agree i dont see how they can
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pauly.........not the mass murdering god of the old testament
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They are both figments of a fertile imagination so therefore the same.
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akabula........totally agree
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No, because one of these Gods does not stand for killing but love...Simple.
Ah the God of love. Is that the one that presides over the millions who die horrible deaths every year through starvation? Is that the one? |
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help me out valasquez
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The Christian God is the same God the Jews worship = YHWH or "Yahweh". Christians believe that Jesus (Yeshua) is Yahweh himself, coming into the Earth in flesh and blood, as a man. This is a blasphemous idea to Jews, Jehovah Witnesses, Muslims, Mormons, Gnostics, etc.
Christians believe in the TRIUNE GOD - Father, Son and Holy Spirit, memorably portrayed in a famous icon by Andrei Rublev...yet, as it says implicitly in the bible and explicitly in the New Testament,"These three are One," perhaps in the sense that ice, water and steam are three different states of the same substance. Jesus said, "The Father (Abba) and I are One..." etc. "Whoever has seen me has seen the Father." Blaise Pascal wrote extensively on the differences between Christianity and Islam. In Christian belief you are "saved" by faith alone - by belief in Jesus. In Islam, Allah is utterly impenetrable and unknowable - much of the best Islamic theology - Sufism IMO - is influenced by idealistic Greek philosophy. Muslims seem to believe in "fate" - in "Allah's will" etc, whereas in the bible, there are stories dedicated to the prophets arguing with God and perhaps even changing his mind. |
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Is that what they mean by tough love?
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Gods struth it's all fairy stories ffsk
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Ah the God of love. Is that the one that presides over the millions who die horrible deaths every year through starvation? Is that the one?
Yep, the same one who gave us all a choice of how we live our lives....There is enough food in the World to make sure nobody is hungry.. Do we need a God to sort us all out or allow us to make our own choices? |
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Brilliant! The Velasquez of old. Love it.
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Men dress in frocks and make a good living talking about this.
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You mean paul he sits back and lets us make mistakes?
And because of our mistakes millions pay the price and die a horrible death. What a wonderful god. A price worth paying is it? It's a load of codswallop.  |
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akabula
28 Sep 14 18:59 Joined: 13 Mar 08 | Topic/replies: 6,167 | Blogger: akabula's blog No, because one of these Gods does not stand for killing but love...Simple. Ah the God of love. Is that the one that presides over the millions who die horrible deaths every year through starvation? Is that the one? This happens because the government cut peoples dole monies not because god hates us , god gave us lotta monies but government wont share the monies |
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If God didn't exist man would invent it, maybe we have.
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Akubula i guarantee you have related to god in your life at some point for instance a friend or family members death.
Believe in god or not we all reach out for the god at one time |
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Bollocks
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This happens because the government cut peoples dole monies not because god hates us , god gave us lotta monies but government wont share the monies
Maybe he should appoint an assistant to the dole. Maybe a new saint needed. Arise Saint Francis of Adhssisi. |
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Jesus Christ lived and died for us. The God of Love is also the God of Justice - he can do no more. The cross reaches out in all directions and dimensions, into the past, present and future. There is no sin or condition of Sin that God cannot accept as long as the true remedy of Jesus' sacrifice is applied.
I would say that the world (and Islam) believe in religion but Jesus Christ does not. This is why Jesus is an OFFENSE to the world. There are the pillars of Islam and muslims have to go through the ritual prayers and deeds each day to try to obtain some sort of righteousness. In the bible there is nothing you can do to please God - hence, "All your good deeds are like filthy rags..." (Nearly typed WRAGGS there, as in Harry and Geoff... Wrong forum, muppet!)All you can do is accept God's GRACE rather than be condemned by Law or your own faults. |
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I believe in my God...Prove I am wrong. You can't.
You do not believe in my God (or any other for that matter?). I cannot prove you are wrong either. I have a faith, you cannot take away from me. I don't want to change your mind either. I am happy, you are happy... Happy days......... If only it were that easy |
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Akubula i guarantee you have related to god in your life at some point for instance a friend or family members death.
Believe in god or not we all reach out for the god at one time Agreed but that's when we are at our weakest and certainly not thinking straight. |
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Believe in god or not we all reach out for the god at one time
You clearly do not understand those of us who do not believe any god. It would be akin to calling out to Rupert Bear for help. |
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What if someone believes in Santa and he has faith, is that okay paul?
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anyone who believes in god have some form of mental illness
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akabula
28 Sep 14 19:24 Joined: 13 Mar 08 | Topic/replies: 6,172 | Blogger: akabula's blog This happens because the government cut peoples dole monies not because god hates us , god gave us lotta monies but government wont share the monies Maybe he should appoint an assistant to the dole. Maybe a new saint needed. Arise Saint Francis of Adhssisi. I can run the dole if needs be |
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Foinavon
28 Sep 14 19:27 Joined: 11 Oct 00 | Topic/replies: 1,604 | Blogger: Foinavon's blog Believe in god or not we all reach out for the god at one time You clearly do not understand those of us who do not believe any god. It would be akin to calling out to Rupert Bear for help. So youve never said when someone passes way he/she with so and so now or anything along they lines Whats your name on the icke forum? |
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I have no idea if there is such a thing as God and neither does anyone else . As humans have only been around for the blink of an eye its unlikely that we've figured it all out and that our opinion won't be different in 10,000 years time.
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BTW - I watched MARGIN CALL last night on bbc2 and my ears hurt with the amount of times the name "Jesus Christ" was casually used as a curse or swear word, including "Jesus effing Christ." You have to wonder at that - why is Jesus' name used and no other? These Hollywood scriptwriters have to write that down, hard and fast, before an actor utters that name in such a derogatory manner.
Who is the most hated person that has lived within recent memory? Hitler? Stalin? But no-one uses their names as "cuss" words...no, there's only ONE name used as a curse word because, in the beginning and end, the Alpha and Omega, only ONE name truly matters. |
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I would say that the world (and Islam) believe in religion but Jesus Christ does not.
This is why I like to read your posts Velasquez, refreshing stuff! |
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Jesus Christ on a bike!
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Foinavon - see "religionless" Christianity / Dietrich Bonhoeffer.
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foinavon do you believe in aliens and reptiles
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So youve never said when someone passes way he/she with so and so now or anything along they lines
Whats your name on the icke forum? Of course I don't thechaser. many people that I have known have died including my parents and sister. Death is a necessary part of life and is the only reason that any of us are alive today. I have never read the Icke forum but I understand that he has some controversial views. Why should it appeal to an atheist? |
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Faith is a strange concept, up here in Scotland we even had people expressing faith in Salmond.
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Thanks Velasquez, I will.
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That's quite an interesting phrase Ron...
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yes it appeals to atheists , but some believe in other stuff no one else would but then again we cant all believe the same stuff
i go on now and again but dont post , just read some stuff |