I want Scotland out of our union

that sounds great. how to go about it? write to your MP, start a blog and seed it with how you think it should be done and why. collate a list of UK news websites and post the idea anywhere it's remotely on-topic.

good luck

I cannot think why you want them out???????

I am not sure any country has actually voted away bits of itself????????????????

The problem is that nearly half of them do not want to be in this union. The malcontents can create a lot more mischief from within than they could from without.

The UK should replace London with Republic of Ireland. I think all sides would be happy with that.

naydam  • September 20, 2014 9:14 PM BST
The problem is that nearly half of them do not want to be in this union. The malcontents can create a lot more mischief from within than they could from without.

You fear guerrilla warfare, terrorism a civil war
another William Wallace???

Sorry I should not be so sarcastic, but I think your fear is unnecessary

and since half still want to stay in the union...what can we do
split Scotland in half?

we had better revoke Mel Gibson's visa...just in case

FFS!

There was a lot of nastiness post the result and interviews
with some NOs echo ECK's "the dream will never die"

Very sad, it was DEMOCRACY in action
hopefully it will soon be forgotten

When the majority of Scots want to go, they will go
but as long as the majority of Scots want to stay, they will stay
that is democracy!

get yer @rse in gear,  i want independence before the turn of the decade

You lot would be better of worrying about the independent state of bradfordistan etc than worrying about what we are up to.

Ebul. I think you are reading a little bit too much into my 'mischief' comment. If I had meant terrorism or sabotage or other such violent activities, then I would have said so.
I imagine that you will find that there is already work afoot by the 'yes' campaigners to ensure that, ultimately, they are successful. The 'no' voters are unlikely to generate the same degree of fervour to support their opinion. The 'no' voters will simply get on with their lives whilst plans are being made in the background to achieve a reversal at the next vote.
They only need to win once!

All of this, of course, is just my thoughts on the matter.

Sep 21, 2014 -- 8:37AM, flushgordon1 wrote:

You lot would be better of worrying about the independent state of bradfordistan etc than worrying about what we are up to.

Will England be the first country in the world to change it's name without having broke away from another country or split, ie Czech Republic / Slovakia ... England will soon not be known as England, it will be called Islamland or something

mark my words, the machinations of politics will rear up and bite scotland in the throat now they voted the way they did.
They would have been better out when they had the chance, this is the worst scenario for them, sure the sycophancy way continue for a short while but gradually it will decay into far worse than they had in the first place.
They opened pandoras box and now all the toffs have seen an angle.

pish

anything adverse happens then the people would be out on the street, the deal over more powers is just a game at the moment between labour and cons. nothing extraordinary.

"rear up and bite scotland in the throat"

Long Live the Union.
Even though 1.6m voted to break up the Union the vast majority of those will accept the decision to remain with good grace.
Only a very small minority will not accept it and continue to be vocal on the matter but will be able to do little else.

Apologies Naydam..if I went a little over the top

Yes the Independence camp only need a YES vote once
they will continue their struggle

The bad feeling immediately after the result was more like football hooligans probably on hearing a result

erse2
you new to politics?
everything is used as material.
Its like having a turd, once you had one you unlikely to need another for a while.
Scotland got nowt but promises and humans are opportunistic.

Sit back and watch the show as the tories pick away at the whole thing

that aint to say scotland will be kicked to the kerb.
They will be exploited, thats the way of things.
They showed their card in asking for a referendum and it ended in nowt
Thats like telling your political enemy what you intend to do next

@ebul
To fight for independence at this time was ill conceived.
The best they could have hoped for was a very small majority meaning that half of the nation would be at odds with the other half.
In other words a bitterly divided nation in either case.
That btw is Salmond's legacy.

dustybin,

"They will be exploited, thats the way of things."
"They showed their card in asking for a referendum and it ended in nowt"
"Thats like telling your political enemy what you intend to do next"

Are these broad generalisations just your way of avoiding a proper conversation about it, because it reads like someone who's read extensively about area 51. You have a very strange view of people voting to stay in the UK.

so you dont think the first step of pushing Scottish mps from voting has any semblance on anything then?
this will be meat and drink and now they have the bit.
Its political play to suggest that one part has been hard done by giving the other a chance (which they turned down after 2 years fooking around)
there's plenty material to use to turn this well against the scots now.
Id be amazed if scotland get anything from this in the longrun

it was 'unconstitutional' to offer what they did when they did to the scots and the scots accepted it like a turkey.
The margin now suggests thats because the scots had a right of passage so should others just to be on par/
That has a hell of a lot of play in it and will not be let go of for a long time.

Within a finite environment and gain has to be paid for by somebody, and there is every chance the scots will be the first to pay for sticking their heads above the parapet/

who gives a rats erse about Scottish MPs getting their voting rights removed on *ENGLISH* issues. It's only fair that they don't vote on them. It's my understanding that they generally don't anyway.

It is simple, a proportion of no voters would have been swayed by the 'promise' of more fiscal powers devolved to Scotland, and if it doesn't happen there'll be a response... in all actuality probably another referendum.

It's only fair that those kind of powers are shared equally across the union.

Besides, you're generalising the "no" vote too much. The currency issue was one of the deciding factors and it was something the UK members of parliament were not willing to entertain on any level. On that fact alone I would have hoped more voters saw it as acting against their interests, but they didn't. We will see what the parties are able to agree on, it's far too early to call any judgement on it.

its not about scottish mps not voting on english matters
its about shifting the political environment to the right for free.
How well does right wing policy suit the scots?

with fiscal autonomy it won't matter so much to the Scots, as what's left on the table for the "UK" to deal with are things like foreign relations, defence... to be honest the best parts of the union that Scotland wouldn't have to reinvent.

it could be argued that a lower taxation policy in London is more helpful to Scotland.

YOU CAN STICK YOUR ROD AWAY NOW SONKO

Erse - I have only one thing to say to you in a language you will understand : Farty ar$e bloop, braaaap jobby fart.

tongue the tang from my @rse hair matey.

Erse
If that assessment were true then there would at least be enough scottish tory MPs to play a game of wiff waff.
As it is it isn't and they don't.