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call me a taxi
17 Sep 14 13:01
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When I asked why he was shot dead and not tasered like the nutjob who decapitated the 82 year old woman not that far away on the same day, I was informed that he had a knife to her throat.

Look at these reports.

Islington tribune - 16th September
Mr Joseph was shot twice by a police marksman during a siege in the basement flat of a house. He was shot once in the left arm, but died after being shot in the back of the left chest.

The Trumpet - 16th September
He was shot twice by a police marksman during a two-hour siege in the basement flat of a house. He was shot once in the left arm, but died after being shot in the back of the left chest.

BBC - 16th September 
Two shots were  circumstances surrounding Mr Joseph's death, earlier said two shots were fired by police during the incident. A post-mortem examination found the man died as a result of shock and haemorrhage caused by a gunshot wound to the left chest.

The BBC didn't report that he was shot in the back.

Why was the armed police officer standing behind him when he fired?

Why fire at his chest?

Is there not a chance that the bullet will pass right through him and hit the woman he was holding?

If he turned away from the armed police officer before being shot, why didn't those officer(s) behind him jump on him while he had his back to them.

And this surfaced four days before the news reports. .

Islington tribune - 12th September

RACIAL equality campaigners were asking questions of the police this week after a black man was shot dead during a siege at a Canonbury flat.

(I didn't put 'RACIAL' in upper case letters, that's the way it came)

Campaigners – while in no way diminishing the ordeal of the woman involved – called on the police to be more transparent, pointing out that this is the second black man to die with police involvement in the past two months.

A man died in Holloway from what are believed to be self-inflicted wounds after police were called to a disturbance in Trefil Walk in July.

This man has not been named either and Stafford Scott, of the race equality organisation The Monitoring Group said it was “troubling” that the names of those involved were being kept out of the public domain.

(You'd think that with domestic violence being common at this address, and the fact that an alleged 30 witnesses gave evidence, that at least one neighbour could have named him)

“There should be always be some concern when someone’s life has been taken by the police,” he said. “No explanation has really been given and the man’s name has been withheld. There are concerns. If we don’t know who they are how can we get to the bottom of it? With any incident which may raise people’s concerns information needs to be public so people are able to challenge the police version of events. It should be as transparent as possible."

“For someone like myself, who has a lot of experience of working with the police, what concerns me is that once you have a police negotiator in situ the key issue is about time and developing a relationship so that the person will feel safe about giving themselves up. For a man to be shot after two hours raises some questions.”

(I said that)

He also queried why the man wasn’t Tasered, pointing out that an incident in Edmonton earlier the same day, in which a woman had been beheaded, had been ended by police tackling the obviously violent perpetrator without shooting him.

Leading black commentator Alex Pascall OBE, one of the founders of the Notting Hill Carnival who now lives in Finsbury, felt there are too many instances in which people were being shot by police. “We need to be questioning the role of armed police,” he added. “I’m also not happy about the police investigating themselves as they do in some cases. The Stephen Lawrence inquiry exposed institutional racism about 20 years ago. I wonder if anything has changed.”

The Tribune asked the Met Police what their procedure was before the order to shoot someone was made, but received no response.

A solitary bouquet of flowers are all that remain on a concrete space at the scene of the shooting in Shepperton Road.

The carnations contain the words, “RIP ‘cous’” (cousin) written in ink and two crosses for kisses.

Many neighbours in the road expressed sadness that a man needed to be shot dead to end the siege.

One woman told the Tribune: “It’s a tragedy that this incident led to the shooting of a man. I heard a shot, and then another. The whole thing is very upsetting”

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By:
call me a taxi
When: 18 Sep 14 19:34
Leading black commentator Alex Pascall OBE, one of the founders of the Notting Hill Carnival who now lives in Finsbury, felt there are too many instances in which people were being shot by police. “We need to be questioning the role of armed police,” he added. “I’m also not happy about the police investigating themselves as they do in some cases. The Stephen Lawrence inquiry exposed institutional racism about 20 years ago. I wonder if anything has changed.”

Yes it has. 

Two black nutjobs beheaded a soldier in a London street and they weren't shot dead.

Happy now?

Or one black nutjob beheaded an 82 year old woman and wasn't even shot, he was tasered.

More happy now?
By:
Wesdag
When: 18 Sep 14 20:44
If only your dear sister wasn't mugged by two black men. Cry

You'd then be able to spare us all of your endless introspective drivel.
By:
bacontrout.
When: 18 Sep 14 21:12
could imagine being shot in the arm might spin you round. probably happened quite quickly. doesn't sound too unreasonable.

guess theres different forms of response for a live threat, or once the crime is 'over' as it were. are you just asking people get shot in cold blood after the event? less violence the better imo.
By:
call me a taxi
When: 18 Sep 14 21:17
Wesdag
If only your dear sister wasn't mugged by two black men.


Still telling the same lies, troll.

Tut tut.

Keep seething, boy.
By:
Wesdag
When: 18 Sep 14 21:24
call me a taxi • September 2, 2014 7:04 PM BST
The Leopard
01 Sep 14 19:04   
CMAT....did you have some trouble with a few black guys in your teens?

FWIW - my sister was mugged by a black some years ago. Takes a brave sort of cnunt to mug a female in her 50s who uses walking sticks.


Oh, my mistake, it was one black rather than two blacks.
By:
naydam
When: 18 Sep 14 21:50
I fail to see the need to repeat such personal details. Especially in such a scornful manner. Shame on you.
By:
call me a taxi
When: 18 Sep 14 21:55
Wesdag
Oh, my mistake, it was one black rather than two blacks.


It wasn't a mistake, you were so busy being a seething troll that you posted the same lie twice.
By:
Wesdag
When: 18 Sep 14 23:12
Ok.

If only your dear sister wasn't mugged by a black man. Cry

You'd then be able to spare us all of your endless introspective drivel.

Better now?
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