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06 Sep 14
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i would take those big prices now this could be a 1.01 train to independence
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Laid "No" at 1.15 & 1.16 - set trade-outs at 1.48, but considering going much higher now.
I know erse - but I'm counting on the market going volatile once the polling stations open.
Poll was conducted in easterhoose which is full of tattie munching giro wallahs ,what did you expect?
From the horse racing forum
Rupert Murdoch on Twitter - London Times will shock Britain and more with reliable new poll on Scottish independence. If right on 18th vote everything up for grabs
Stig Abell managing editor of the Sun on Twitter
Even the most sanguine representatives of the no vote now accept the possibility of independence. Looks like 12 days of the Union left.
Later tweet from Murdoch
Rupert Murdoch Verified account @rupertmurdoch
Scottish poll reflects world-wide disillusion with political leaders and old establishments leaving openings for libertarians and far left.
Rupert Murdoch on Twitter - London Times will shock Britain and more with reliable new poll on Scottish independence. If right on 18th vote everything up for grabs
Stig Abell managing editor of the Sun on Twitter
Even the most sanguine representatives of the no vote now accept the possibility of independence. Looks like 12 days of the Union left.
Later tweet from Murdoch
Rupert Murdoch Verified account @rupertmurdoch
Scottish poll reflects world-wide disillusion with political leaders and old establishments leaving openings for libertarians and far left.
As the fervour of the yes campaign has heightened and accusations of traitors for the NO voters some people are reluctant to come out against independence publicly.
Cometh the day common sense will prevail and a majority will vote to retain the Union.
BETTER TOGETHER so VOTE NO.
Cometh the day common sense will prevail and a majority will vote to retain the Union.
BETTER TOGETHER so VOTE NO.
you are correct akabula, the no camp voters unless in some numbers are fair game for the rabid william wallace types that I have seen all too frequently, hopefully on the day the quiet no voters will come to the fore, i will be voting no and though things are tightening considerably I think the union will cling on intact but it will be a close thing
I've been up in Scotland a week. The more people i've spoke to are voting YES. They are the louder voices.
The NO's are keeping quiet.
The most annoying thing are stupid roadsigns and flags every hundred yards.
The NO vote is an absolute certainty I believe.
The NO's are keeping quiet.
The most annoying thing are stupid roadsigns and flags every hundred yards.
The NO vote is an absolute certainty I believe.
The most annoying thing are stupid roadsigns and flags every hundred yards
A few years back at the height of the protests over the Beauly to Denny pylons proposals there were yellow posters on every fecking lamppost and road sign stating SAY NO TO THE PYLONS.
Some wag started putting up green posters stating SAY NO TO THE YELLOW POSTERS.
A few years back at the height of the protests over the Beauly to Denny pylons proposals there were yellow posters on every fecking lamppost and road sign stating SAY NO TO THE PYLONS.
Some wag started putting up green posters stating SAY NO TO THE YELLOW POSTERS.
damn i wish i wasn't poor that grand up there at 3.0 waiting to be taken would be gone.
Scots to be offered radical new deal
Border posts to be set up
New Hadrians Wall
Independence would be catastrophic says navy chief
FFS man do these people think we are fking thick? The first poll showing a yes lead and the papers are full of this nonsense.
These extra powers were nowhere to be seen until the SNP got a majority in a parliament designed to prevent majorities. Common sense tells you Labour and the tories see these extra powers as scraps to placate people. It's not something they believe in.
Border posts to be set up
New Hadrians Wall
Independence would be catastrophic says navy chief
FFS man do these people think we are fking thick? The first poll showing a yes lead and the papers are full of this nonsense.
These extra powers were nowhere to be seen until the SNP got a majority in a parliament designed to prevent majorities. Common sense tells you Labour and the tories see these extra powers as scraps to placate people. It's not something they believe in.
The money men in London, who have been pilfering our assets for years, are sh***ing themselves now.
a new tourism attraction will be set up post independence, basically it's a nice bar and restaurant on the cheviots watching england slowly sink. Drinks will be free provided you show a Scottish passport, which can be stuck on your oil credit card... £100K of credit for all that black gold we can hoard amongst our tiny population.
We can all retire and sit on our verandas, sipping our Malt, being attented 24/7 by our servants. 
'just stick it on the oil credit card' 
'just stick it on the oil credit card'
'just stick it on the oil credit card'
'just stick it on the oil credit card'
'just stick it on the oil credit card'
Scots to be offered radical new deal
Aye, all the unionist parties falling over themselves, scrabbling around to botch together some kind of Federal nonsense. Ask them now why they refused to insert a third "Devo Max" question on the ballot paper. Now they know that was a catastrophic blunder. The Yes side offered it, remember? Brilliant strategy if you ask me, and Cameron fell for it thinking NO was a shoe in.
Aye, all the unionist parties falling over themselves, scrabbling around to botch together some kind of Federal nonsense. Ask them now why they refused to insert a third "Devo Max" question on the ballot paper. Now they know that was a catastrophic blunder. The Yes side offered it, remember? Brilliant strategy if you ask me, and Cameron fell for it thinking NO was a shoe in.
It would be rather amusing if some sort of Brass Eye style calamity occurred when printing the ballot papers and a majority voted to be French.
If it's oh so close why has "Majority Yes" gone out to 3.4 on here?
I know it's come in from some big numbers but it was 3.1 when I looked yesterday so following the publication of the polls it's gone out 10%. If the polls are to be believed then the price should be around 2, no?
Yes. Market had been completely out of kilter (excuse pun) with the polls as far back as I can research.
People trading. I laid No at 1.16 and 1.17, others would trade accordingly.
Alias and I are responsible for at least 4 million of the 800K laid at 1.15 to 1.17 
YouGOV RESEARCH /SUNDAY TIMES=51% of people support independence compared to 49% want to remain in the UK."as they head towards the final furlong its neck and neck"
Sep 7, 2014 -- 10:56PM, Alias wrote:
You're bragging now Stevie.
That was me, Alias
I believe its come as a suprise to the nationalists that they might actually win the vote. They haven't even made up their minds about the new national anthem yet, evidently its between, Johnny where's your troosers and I belong to Glasgow.
I thought Plan B was the Archers theme?
* from Billy Connoly ... Billy, where's yer troosers mon?
* from Billy Connoly ... Billy, where's yer troosers mon?
Darling being roughed up on the Today programme...
Nick Robinson: "If the Better Together campaign is to be rescued, it will be rescued by Scots, not by Westminster politicians".
I concur. 'No' camp looks like its panicking, which is just as bad as actually panicking, imo.
I concur. 'No' camp looks like its panicking, which is just as bad as actually panicking, imo.
Seems like the more the opinion polls suggest it might be a Yes, the more concessions the Government make to the Nationalists.
So, by saying they will vote Yes and at the last minute vote No, they will have the best of both worlds and the rest of the UK will have the worst.
So, by saying they will vote Yes and at the last minute vote No, they will have the best of both worlds and the rest of the UK will have the worst.
I believe its come as a suprise to the nationalists that they might actually win the vote. They haven't even made up their minds about the new national anthem yet, evidently its between, Johnny where's your troosers and I belong to Glasgow.
If they vote No it has to be "god save the Queen"
That is what they will have done.
If they vote No it has to be "god save the Queen"
That is what they will have done.
What I don't understand is this pound thing. Surely they can just have their own currency, call it the scottish pound, tie it to the english pound, copy our interest rates and then lets see what the markets make of it. Do they actually expect to have a say in the interest rate setting? would be like Greece all over again, fk that.
Mirror online today highlighting the Yougov poll as suspicious, there was an online campaign on social media by the Yes campaign asking every Yes supporter to sign up to Yougov since it is always their poll results that were taken as gospel and the ones quoted on the TV and newspapers. So the Yougov poll is skewed and I would imagine the media will highlight the poll as being odd like the Mirror have done today then make the direct accusation against the Yes campaign of trying to show a false momentum nearer the time of the actual vote.
"What I don't understand is this pound thing. Surely they can just have their own currency, call it the scottish pound, tie it to the english pound, copy our interest rates and then lets see what the markets make of it."
Well yes this was always a possibility, Scotland could do it to ANY currency. The SNP are trying to make out Darling saying they could do this was an admission but everyone who knew anything about it knew this anyway, that's just typical SNP bullsh1t. The problem with doing that, "sterlingisation", is that they won't then have control over interest rates etc, they won't have a central bank to back up the financial institutions so they'd be moving HQ to England (which they may do anyway, see last weeks news about Lloyds). Also AFAIK Scotland would have to find significant money to save in the bank to back up the this currency, essentially buy the value in if you see what I mean. You can't just magic up a pile of another countries money and then spend it. And the EU rules apparently don't allow entry to countries without a central bank.
The SNP keep trying to muddy the waters (i.e. misinform and lie to voters) of the difference between a currency union and sterlingisation but they are very different things.
Well yes this was always a possibility, Scotland could do it to ANY currency. The SNP are trying to make out Darling saying they could do this was an admission but everyone who knew anything about it knew this anyway, that's just typical SNP bullsh1t. The problem with doing that, "sterlingisation", is that they won't then have control over interest rates etc, they won't have a central bank to back up the financial institutions so they'd be moving HQ to England (which they may do anyway, see last weeks news about Lloyds). Also AFAIK Scotland would have to find significant money to save in the bank to back up the this currency, essentially buy the value in if you see what I mean. You can't just magic up a pile of another countries money and then spend it. And the EU rules apparently don't allow entry to countries without a central bank.
The SNP keep trying to muddy the waters (i.e. misinform and lie to voters) of the difference between a currency union and sterlingisation but they are very different things.
The SNP keep trying to muddy the waters (i.e. misinform and lie to voters)
And of course, 90% of the media being on the No side, are completely honest. Just like their right wing masters, whence their "truth" comes from.
And of course, 90% of the media being on the No side, are completely honest. Just like their right wing masters, whence their "truth"
comes from.
And of course, 90% of the media being on the No side, are completely honest. Just like their right wing masters, whence their "truth" comes from.
Uh, I dont think so. On the contrary in fact. The media on the no side will be as guilty of misinformation as any form of the media.
Uh, I dont think so. On the contrary in fact. The media on the no side will be as guilty of misinformation as any form of the media.
tomorrow : Another poll in favour of YES
http://tns-bmrb.co.uk/uploads/files/TNSUK_SOM2014Sep9_DataTables.pdf
it's an unstoppable train.
http://tns-bmrb.co.uk/uploads/files/TNSUK_SOM2014Sep9_DataTables.pdf
it's an unstoppable train.
I don't think the recent big splash about the YouGov poll will necessarily do the Yes campaign any favours. I think it might cause a lot of lazy or apathetic voters to turn out and vote No because they are now worried the Yes vote actually might win.
But I still think the referendum is a terrible idea anyway. I don't think anybody will come out of it better off whoever wins, mainly down to the resentment and bad feeling it has caused and will continue to cause afterwards.
the way the momentum has been building for yes, suggests that they are winning votes from former No's, not just gaining the undecided. It may be too late for the No's now.
I disagree. I even wondered whether the recent YouGov poll might have been purposely manipulated by the No campaign, because I honestly believe the timing of it has done the No campaign more good than the Yes.
After independence don't feck with the Scots they've got nuclear weapons, Since the end of the cold war I've wondered where are these fecking things are pointing (I know your all thinking France but that is just speculation) Wonder no more, before devolution, one thing only united the Scots nationalists, a pathalogical hatred of the English.
The English might be getting their missiles back quicker than you think, my calculations about 10,000 miles hour.
The English might be getting their missiles back quicker than you think, my calculations about 10,000 miles hour.
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And of course, 90% of the media being on the No side, are completely honest. Just like their right wing masters, whence their "truth" comes from.
Uh, I dont think so. On the contrary in fact. The media on the no side will be as guilty of misinformation as any form of the media.
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Rob, I think you may have misread my post.
Only ONE newspaper, the Sunday Herald, has declared for Yes.
And of course, 90% of the media being on the No side, are completely honest. Just like their right wing masters, whence their "truth" comes from.
Uh, I dont think so. On the contrary in fact. The media on the no side will be as guilty of misinformation as any form of the media.
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Rob, I think you may have misread my post.
Only ONE newspaper, the Sunday Herald, has declared for Yes.
"NO" happily bobbing between 1.5 in the dead of night and 1.4 during the day. Will do this until the next poll.
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