big move towards the yes vote tonight....

Not in a million years will they go.

based upon what ?

i think it'll be close. originally i was thinking 55 / 45 to no. the catch with the polls IMO is that the "no" voters tend to be less vociferous and there may be a bigger proportion of them hiding in the undecideds.

personally I'd vote yes if I were in Scotland, after being a long standing no.

the main reason for the rise in the poll IMO, is that there simply hasn't been any good points in the defence of the union, it's all been about uncertainty, risk and doubt. Be a part of the UK economic machine.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=buiXDbgnc4M

surely they won't leave us poor English with tory govts forever more :(

You'd have had them anyway up til now.

Why don't the English get a say in this?

There are probably a few who want to see Hadrians Wall put up again.

Away and order some bricks then, cmat.

I'm busy bricking off Norfolk from Europe.

Why? Your ancestors came from there in the first place.

I like the proposed name of Peoples Republic In Caledonian Kingdom Scotland

erse has hit the nail on the head.
Because of the brutality shown so far by the YES campaigners some in the NO camp are keeping quiet.
What would say when asked how you were voting if the person asking was sporting a YES badge and had a baseball bat in one hand and a pack of 6 eggs in the other?

ACCIE..WALOFS.

if someone approached you accie with 6 eggs and a bat it would prob be an offer for yer pathetic fitba club.

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ACCIE..WALOFS



Absolute quality
WALOFS you say. Really? Well that'll surprise a few

I can't stop laughing at that reply and I thought I'd went too far with the eggs.

With the populace so divided, whichever side triumphs will ultimately find it a Pyrrhic victory.  This referendum is a dreadfully ill-conceived idea in my view.

how would it be a Pyrrhic victory if the yes voters win?

The momentum is massively with the YES campaign. It will be far closer than the current odds indicate.

it could only be a pyrrhic victory if it was a yes vote.

As I implied in my post, in my view it will be a Pyrrhic victory because the populace is so divided.  I don't believe the losing side will do so with good grace.

It will be decided by the result of the Germany match. If Scotland beat the world champions, there will be surge in patriotism and will swing it for the YES vote.

YES is a cert then

No doubt whatsoever mate

Hope they show Braveheart the night before the election.

They definitely will screen Braveheart several times in the run up to the election, along with a loop of Archie Gemmill's goal against Holland at the 1978 World Cup.

Keep saying to the Scots that live down here. you'll need
your passport soon to go home.
Those that can are going back to vote no

They won`t get a vote, unless they are on the voters roll up here.

Those that can are going back to vote no

There is not one single Scottieland person that I know personally that is voting yes.

Quislings the lot of them.

I've laid YES at 4.2.

Salmond's party got just 20% of the votes in Scotland at the 2010 General Election. Heck, even the Conservatives got 16% of the votes. My guess is that some of those claiming to be planning to vote YES are only saying that as a way of expressing displeasure with the Government, a kind of protest vote, similar to the way minority parties do well in by-elections. Because the NO result seemed such a certainty, there appeared to be no harm in it.

Now the two sides are closer in the polls I suspect that many of those protest voters, along with most of the Don't Knows, will in fact vote NO on the day for fear of being lumbered with a nation forged by a man who has so little support.

It`s nothing to do with Alex Salmond.

p.s. your bet is in BIG trouble.

Mac, I've asked all of them and nobody of my mates who can vote are saying they will vote yes.

thinly veiled been wanting to use pyrrhic for a while

Thinly veiled "I had to look it up."

why are scottish people who live in the uk not getting a say
about as democratic as our elections uk wise isn't it

no wonder piggy only wants those north of the border to vote

he is just a stirrer  - a trouble maker and hopefully will get what he deserves

i got it in the context but did look it up.

I believe you slippy. All my English neighbours are voting YES. Not one of them are voting NO.

“Supporters of independence will always be able to cite examples of small, independent and thriving economies across Europe such as Finland, Switzerland and Norway. It would be wrong to suggest that Scotland could not be another such successful, independent country.”
~ David Cameron

self inflated piggy doesn't like anyone disagreeing with him

could you imagine supporting his ego!!??  who on earth would  vote for his nationalist ideas

he won't even let scottish people in england to vote and you know why don't you?

Why should Scots who don`t even live here get a vote in the matter? Regardless whether they vote YES or NO. Would be like all the Brits who immigrated to Australia, Canada, Spain etc getting a vote in the UK elections.

it is a set up

piggy only what piggy wants

his nose in the trough

and it won't help the poor in scotland

The only likely set up is MI5 and the CIA rigging the vote.

Smugness Abounds

The YES vote is on fire. We've had enough. It's gonna happen.

And Cameron will be forced to resign

Sep 3, 2014 -- 5:15PM, SlippyBlue wrote:

Mac, I've asked all of them and nobody of my mates who can vote are saying they will vote yes.

Then you either have (1) very few mates or (2) mates who are 65+/earn over £250K.

I'm voting yes, and I'm 80% confident the Yes campaign will win the under 65 vote. They'll definitely win the vote in Glasgow, Highland, Grampian & Perthshire. I would put Yes' chances of winning at between 35-40% at the moment, so the odds are still slightly soft IMO.

Well older is wiser.

No mate, they are senile

Sep 3, 2014 -- 5:40PM, akabula wrote:

Well older is wiser.

The older you get, the less willing you become to embrace change or take risks. Simple as that.

Agreed TR but that's because we are wiser.

If man didn't take risks, we'd still be living in caves.

A lot of us still do in Scotland.

tubs on a roll ha ha   do you get it?

Because of the brutality shown so far by the YES campaigners some in the NO camp are keeping quiet.


akabula's posts consistent with the No campaign = LIES.

from those that i know that are Rangers fans they would vote no(2 people one late 50's one about 30)

i know one Celtic fan he would vote yes(mid 40's)none of these are allowed to vote.

of the scots that come through the station and have a jock(Freudian slip) about it with
the words "not if i have anything to do with it" have been heard on more than one occasion

so it seems that those that vote no are not living north of Hadrians wool

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I've laid YES at 4.2.


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your bet is in BIG trouble

Drifted out to 4.7 already.
Maybe independence will happen, but laying as short as 4.2 was never going to be in trouble, BIG or otherwise. The pro-independence arguments rely too much on faith for punters to believe the YES camp could convince enough people to switch when the moment to vote actually arrives.