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24 Jul 14
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The drugs don't work!
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Why don't they just string em up?
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The daughter of one of those murdered by the culprit said she didn't think it was barbaric and that he deserved to suffer. It is difficult for me to argue with that.
As an expert in forensics I can tell you that they were using experimental drugs because the American and European manufacturers of the drug of choice, Thiopentone, refuse to supply it for the purpose of execution! It is not easy to both this up. I could of sent him over in a couple of minutes! I hope this enhances your knowledge of execution techniques! |
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The sentence was death, not to be tortured to death
I find it ironic that a society that claims to be civilised and condemns other societies because they are backward thinks torturing someone to death is ok, not with me it degrades us, it takes us down to the perpetrators level in this respect the US has the poorest values of any other society on earth |
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a bath and a toaster would have sufficed
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I am sure it doesn't degrade us the way the murderer degraded his victims! And if you have watched any of the US prison programmes on the television, you would realise that some of the things these murderers do to their victims means they deserve a fate worse than death.
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BB- you been watching Columbo again!
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I was invited to a WI do once. Now that was a fete worse than death!
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I once spent 12 hours on a flight from Delhi to Heathrow sitting next to someone who had just eaten garlic and onions. There was NO fate worse than breath!
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Yes - the worst fate bar naan
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no doctor my dad always tried to get me to have breakfast in the bath, took me years to work out what he was up to
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Nice one nick!
BB-at least that was better than having an MP named on that missing list trying to get you to have breakfast in the bath. We would certainly know what he was up to! |
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I once spent 12 hours on a flight from Delhi to Heathrow sitting next to someone who had just eaten garlic and onions. There was NO fate worse than breath!
In First Class ? |
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surely Cyril could only manage a shower Dr?
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No Nick, in those days I could only afford business class. It was on BA!
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BB- if the incentive was there, my guess is that Cyril would of tried!
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Whatever someone has done I do not think it justifies torturing someone to death
I rather thought humanity had moved on from that one, sadly it appears we have not We are as nasty and brutal as we ever were, we always will be, we cannot change ourselves. This confirms that belief. |
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EG - the thread title is "Botched Execution".
There was no intention to torture him |
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Wouldn't the most "humane" method be to completely sever the spinal chord between the 2nd and third verabrae? You'd just stop breathing and it would be over in a couple of minutes. Surely you could do this by firing a blade in from behind, without the uncertainty of hanging or the mess of guillotining.
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You've been falling out with those parking wardens again, haven't you Stevie?
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Guilotine hasnt been bettered.
Funny how they dont give them a dose of morphine or something before. Reckon they are not too displeased that they have inadvertently tortured them. How hard is it to administer a faal dose of something  |
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*fatal
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they should put em in the cube. no, not the itv thing with philip schofield. the movie, the cube. where theyre all erm...in a cube. an that.
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i_agree_with_nick • July 24, 2014 3:48 PM BST
EG - the thread title is "Botched Execution". There was no intention to torture him If it took 2 hours to kill him...I regard that as torture and why this punishment at all...like the electric chair Why not just hang him or shoot him, most other countries use this Why the need to increase the time of carrying our the sentence... I assume to inflict pain....that is torture in my book |
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"There was no intention"
I'd do it in bigger letters for you if I knew how |
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Here you are Burt.
THERE WAS NO INTENTION |
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EG - have you started early tonight? |
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No I stand by this....why is this method of execution used?...and I doubt this has only happened once
although it does not usually take 2 hours If the intention is to prolong the death process to inflict pain..that is torture Why does the US do it? The US condemn Muslim and African societies as barbaric because they do not like gays They moan at China for locking people up for nothing They moan at Russia for just about everything they do and yet these countries do not see the need to inflict pain in carrying out the death sentence so why does the US do it? |
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ffs |
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Do you honestly think the US uses lethal injection as a method of execution because it is more painful and tortuous?
It is seen as the least barbaric and most humane method. If the intention is to prolong the death process to inflict pain..that is torture Why does the US do it?  The US condemn Muslim and African societies as barbaric because they do not like gays They moan at China for locking people up for nothing They moan at Russia for just about everything they do and yet these countries do not see the need to inflict pain in carrying out the death sentence so why does the US do it? No, Saudi Arabia behead their death sentencees in public and other Muslim countries stone women to death for comitting adultery. |
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its one of the few things they get right
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The US condemn Muslim and African societies as barbaric because they do not like gays
They moan at China for locking people up for nothing They moan at Russia for just about everything they do and yet these countries do not see the need to inflict pain in carrying out the death sentence so why does the US do it? From wikipedia: China commonly employs two methods of execution. Since 1949, the most common method has been execution by firing squad, which has been largely superseded by lethal injection, using the same three-drug cocktail pioneered by the United States, introduced in 1996. Execution vans are unique to China, however. Lethal injection is more commonly used for "economic crimes", such as corruption, while firing squads are used for more common crimes like murder. In 2010, Chinese authorities moved to have lethal injection become the dominant form of execution; in some provinces and municipalities, it is now the only legal form of capital punishment |
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oh dear
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lethal_injection If it works as intended. Them it is a painless death. The problem is the initial anaesthesia drug in some cases wears off before the person is dead they then suffer a painful death and yes other countries are adopting this  so basically I have been defeated here  ......but I have expressed my concerns |
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Yes stoning to death remains law in some Islamic countries
it is a death by torture punishment..my concern about lethal injection But nowadays it is very rarely carried our, once the sentence is passed it is not usually carried out it is commuted Where they have been carried out, this is not usually part of the legal process |
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I would have trebled it to 12 hours
nah make it a few days the spanish were good at it a few centuries ago and so were we |
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I would have trebled it to 12 hours
nah make it a few days the spanish were good at it a few centuries ago and so were we |
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Hanging and electric chair are still retained in many of the 35 US states that have the death penalty but are not used as lethal injection is the primary method
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I watched an interesting program recently
about someone whose job it was to maintain and service electric chairs When people challenged him on this, how could you do such a job? he said the electric chairs I service have become so run down, the death process was extended his comment was the punishment was death, not death by torture, which was in effect happening Sadly he lost his job, because he was trapped into being a holocaust denier, someone showed him a part of Auschwitz and said in your professional opinion could you gas people here, he answered honestly and said no so they said well that proves the holocaust never happened...I think he had been set up myself Yes electric chairs remain, although not usually used now, they must have found someone else to service an maintain them, or they just don't bother |
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Pierrepoint himself, argued against the death penalty, at the end. His book is quite a good read.
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