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Dobbo
17 Jul 14 23:53
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No brainer for me . Yes or No?

Yes it should become law
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Report dewey • July 17, 2014 11:59 PM BST
Absolutely not.
Report Foinavon • July 18, 2014 12:05 AM BST
Yes
Report SlippyBlue • July 18, 2014 12:15 AM BST
Yes, my Dad literally begged me to end his life. I have said this before on here but as Dobbo has brought the subject up I'll repeat it. He was dying with mesothelioma and in unbearable agony, it was already diagnosed and there was no need for a post mortem. The family doctor came to visit on a Sunday morning and 10 minutes later he was dead.
Report themightymac • July 18, 2014 12:23 AM BST
Yes, without a doubt.
Report themightymac • July 18, 2014 12:28 AM BST
They actually part do it already, so why not make it legal and do it more humanely. They pump morphine into the terminally ill to speed up death. No one wants to watch their loved ones suffer for months on end and in some cases years. Been there many times. I know what you went through slippy, sincere condolences.
Report MisterBadger • July 18, 2014 12:30 AM BST
No, but with reservations. Anyone who can say they are without a doubt in this matter are seeing the bigger picture and so their vote should not count...
Report MisterBadger • July 18, 2014 12:31 AM BST
*not seeing
Report MisterBadger • July 18, 2014 12:33 AM BST
and, like the death penalty, it will never become law because of the inherent dangers

thank god
Report themightymac • July 18, 2014 12:33 AM BST
Your vote shouldn`t count, as it is obviously prejudiced with the proposed Badger cull Whoops
Report treble • July 18, 2014 12:38 AM BST
Yes.
Report akabula • July 18, 2014 12:42 AM BST
Yes.
Report MisterBadger • July 18, 2014 12:45 AM BST
Your vote shouldn`t count, as it is obviously prejudiced with the proposed Badger cull

that was banned too  Laugh
Report Steamship • July 18, 2014 12:47 AM BST
Just as I have agreed to have my organs removed when I'm gone and given to others if needed, then I should be able to decide if and when I die. We should be asked the question if we would want to live or not. It should be asked whilst we are of sound mind and before we get ill
Report themightymac • July 18, 2014 12:51 AM BST
Mister Badger LaughLaugh
Report no moves • July 18, 2014 1:07 AM BST
Death.......for the people who have no hope.

Does this include Spurs fans?
Report sofiakenny • July 18, 2014 1:45 AM BST
yes
we hate seeing a poor animal suffer but have a rule change cos its a human??
mad
Report erse2 • July 18, 2014 3:37 AM BST
yes from me.

co-signed by someine already pre-agreed with, in case the marbles are gone.
Report pumphol. • July 18, 2014 8:53 AM BST
Absolutely, when in the final stages of a terminal illness you may well be in less pain than you have have been for several weeks  because of the amount of morphine being pumped into you, doctors know how intolerable the pain may be & alleviate it  accordingly, not much of a choice at the moment either your in agony or basically unconscious from drugs, I do think you would have to be diagnosed with weeks/days to live & in a sound mind to be allowed to end your own life, mainly because any longer & a bill of this sort will never get passed.
Report call me a taxi • July 18, 2014 10:27 AM BST
People who are not physically ill (visibly) commit suicide on a daily basis. They may be depressed, drunk, playing sex games, or nutjobs, and they seek no permission.

Taking away the right to die of somebody with no hope of recovery is pointless, and no doubt under some law yet to be introduced, an infringement of their right to end their own lives. 

Yes.
Report Roger The Butler • July 18, 2014 10:52 AM BST
Yes.

Watched my mum die a very slow and difficult death with a degenerative lung condition. She was so brave right to the end that I'm not even sure she would have wanted to end it, but anyone in her position should have the right to do so if they feel they need to.
Report SlippyBlue • July 18, 2014 11:16 AM BST
Well given this poll on here from those of us who have been in the position of seeing our loved ones suffer it's an overwhelming yes vote.
Report Platini • July 18, 2014 11:25 AM BST
Yes, without a shadow of a doubt.
Report cardifffc • July 18, 2014 12:14 PM BST
yes
Report acey deucy • July 18, 2014 12:21 PM BST
No brainer for me to......YES.
Report Burton-Brewers • July 18, 2014 12:39 PM BST
yes please
Report Deltâ • July 18, 2014 12:45 PM BST
yes
Report dunlaying • July 18, 2014 1:54 PM BST
Yes, of course.
Report Slicer • July 18, 2014 2:13 PM BST
If you'd seen the suffering I've seen in my career, you would not hesitate to say yes.
The misery and suffering of a BetFairian that lays a horse at 1000 and sees it 10 lengths clear in the final furlong is unbearably painful to see!
Report wit-ham • July 18, 2014 2:41 PM BST
Yes from me to

mum was in and out of hospital with Pancreatic cancer
took just over a year and we all know you have no hope if
that is diagnosed.
It is hard to say but ending it does seem the better choice
and it is a choice i should be allowed to make.Why should some
idiot in a religious robe be able to stop me having that right.
Report Ibrahima Sonko • July 18, 2014 2:45 PM BST
Yes
Report Slicer • July 18, 2014 2:48 PM BST
Sorry to hear this Wit!
Pancreatic cancer is a horror. The only blessing, if I can call it that, is that with this diagnosis, the suffering is over relatively quickly. I think it is so important to have the ability to chose the timing of one's departure after a diagnosis of this nature.

My best wishes go to you!
Report wit-ham • July 18, 2014 3:05 PM BST
thanks slicer
maybe it's the way i have written it.
but it happened a few years back now.

but i agree you should be able to chose
you're own time of departure.
Report Slicer • July 18, 2014 3:18 PM BST
May have happened some years back, but the shock of that diagnosis and the events that follow can leave a mark that lasts forever. People say they can imagine what it would be like. THEY CAN'T unless they've been through the same thing. I hope that you at least have some wonderful memories of your dear mum!
Report liamcol • July 18, 2014 6:13 PM BST
As long as no one was to benefit financially,( by that I mean the family and anyone else in the will were prepared to give up their inheritance) then yes.
Report Make my hay • July 18, 2014 7:58 PM BST
If it's good enough for Bill Straw then it's good enough for me, I'm in. -  Yes.
Report Ozymandius • July 18, 2014 8:09 PM BST
Yes.
Report ebulGery • July 18, 2014 10:43 PM BST
yes
Report sixtwosix • July 18, 2014 10:45 PM BST
Daughter number 2 is a student nurse ......bitten for the umpteenth time today by some old dear who has left the building mentally ......yes please assist them.
Report SlippyBlue • July 18, 2014 10:47 PM BST
It's a landslide vote. I'm going through this exact situation now with my Mum.
Report sixtwosix • July 18, 2014 10:49 PM BST
Point 2 ....my wife's mother passed away in a care home after deteriorating from a brain tumour operation . Left to pass away peacefully or to put it another way left to die in a room ......blindess & a coma was the other alternative ending .....

Cruel is not the word.
Report MisterBadger • July 18, 2014 11:00 PM BST
It's a landslide vote.

That doesn't necessarily mean it's right...
Report johnizere • July 18, 2014 11:07 PM BST
Yes, without a shadow of doubt.
As someone posted earlier, 'the doctor came and he/she passed away 10 minutes later'
It's well known that medics can make a patient 'more comfortable' if they can.
I hope they would do the same for me.
Report Capt__F • July 18, 2014 11:08 PM BST
YES
Report MisterBadger • July 18, 2014 11:11 PM BST
What is noticeable from this "landslide vote" is that almost everybody's opinion is coloured by personal experience. I myself held my own father's hand as he left us having suffered indescribably with bowel cancer. I would have been willing to go to jail for assisting his departure, so please don't assume I have no axe to grind here. However, my objection any such legislation is that it would (in my view) be impossible to practicaby protect the vulnerable from others "deciding" on their behalf what would be best.

As Steamship said above:

"Just as I have agreed to have my organs removed when I'm gone and given to others if needed, then I should be able to decide if and when I die."

The problems arise when other people are allowed to decide on your behalf.

Like the issue of abortion, it is impossible to generalise, which is why I stand by my "no" vote with reservations.

To be honest, the original question is inadequate to gauge the true response.
Report Dobbo • July 18, 2014 11:11 PM BST
My mother died in June in a care home.It was pitiful and was the one thing I promised would never happen - letting her go into a home. But apart from the alleviation of suffering I think the establishment has got a fcking nerve telling me I cant opt out if I want to.That I would have to starve myself or get someone to collaborate with me. This is a single sided argument.Those against choose your natural death but I should have the equal right to choose a chemical death if its what I want.Its got nothing to do with anyone but me and the prescribing doctor.
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