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05 Jul 14
13:45
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Just had a right old bust with one of my best mates. 
Basically he is a fifty year old manager of a firm that is recruiting and he told me that he was deleting applicants for a job purely on their surname!
You can't do that i said!
He said:
Why not. In fifty years of living in the UK i have always found these people lazy and troublesome. Its my experience of these people in fifty years that has brought me to this conclusion, i just don't like them. I will not have them working for me because of the 100's i have dealt with in the past i have always had a negative experience, always!
I said:
But this is discrimination is it not.
He said:
No its personal opinion built on fifty years of experience. I just don't like these people with this kind of surname. I have had a negative experience with every one of these people i have met over fifty years.
I said:
Well i'm sorry but i must leave. Goodbye.
So i've just got home and its got me thinking.
Is it ok not to like someone because of their surname? Should my mate ignore his experience/feelings built up over fifty years?
Basically he is a fifty year old manager of a firm that is recruiting and he told me that he was deleting applicants for a job purely on their surname!
You can't do that i said!
He said:
Why not. In fifty years of living in the UK i have always found these people lazy and troublesome. Its my experience of these people in fifty years that has brought me to this conclusion, i just don't like them. I will not have them working for me because of the 100's i have dealt with in the past i have always had a negative experience, always!
I said:
But this is discrimination is it not.
He said:
No its personal opinion built on fifty years of experience. I just don't like these people with this kind of surname. I have had a negative experience with every one of these people i have met over fifty years.
I said:
Well i'm sorry but i must leave. Goodbye.
So i've just got home and its got me thinking.
Is it ok not to like someone because of their surname? Should my mate ignore his experience/feelings built up over fifty years?
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That depends. If it is Smith then that is his right. If it is Ahmed then they will throw the book at him. 
tbf to your mate I also wouldn't employ anyone called Thatcher
Some family names are almost certain to indicate a troublesome employee. Whether it be trouble caused by dishonesty, violence or whatever, some families are just bad news.
He has to cut down the list of applicants somehow... can you suggest a better way?
If you received 3000 replies for a job would you interview them all?
He has to cut down the list of applicants somehow... can you suggest a better way?
If you received 3000 replies for a job would you interview them all?
Surname is just racist, I guess its a particular surname of people he has never met from which he guesses ethnicity, he doesnt have a dislike for example Baker or Smith.
can you suggest a better way
Qualifications
Experience
How they communicated their wish to join his firm
can you suggest a better way
Qualifications
Experience
How they communicated their wish to join his firm
And when it is your firm those are the parameters that will be applied. While it's his firm, different parameters will apply.
Do they work successfully? You've got to bear in mind that it is not your financial future that is at stake. He sticks with what works.
Do they work successfully? You've got to bear in mind that it is not your financial future that is at stake. He sticks with what works.
14 of the last 18 workers sent to our firm by the employment agency, are of Pakistani or African origin.
I would imagine the surname is a vital point when supplying labour in Leicester, could of course be pure co-incidence, but a long shot as it has been happening now for some years.
I would imagine the surname is a vital point when supplying labour in Leicester, could of course be pure co-incidence, but a long shot as it has been happening now for some years.
One of my old bosses was a Greek, and had never employed a black or asian person.
After being there for two years I had the power 'to hire or fire'.
I took on an african for a wind up, while my boss was away on business in Belgium.
You should have seen his face when he came back. 'What the fack are you trying to do to me, make me bankrupt?'
It only lasted one more week anyway, as I sacked him.
A bloke from Sri Lanka we took on was still there when I left, that was 4 years later.
After being there for two years I had the power 'to hire or fire'.
I took on an african for a wind up, while my boss was away on business in Belgium.
You should have seen his face when he came back.
'What the fack are you trying to do to me, make me bankrupt?' It only lasted one more week anyway, as I sacked him.
A bloke from Sri Lanka we took on was still there when I left, that was 4 years later.
where i used to work we had one fella who had 3 different names and 2 different adresses.
gonna be hard to do a surname ban on some people who know their way around the system.....
needless to say old bill pulled this rogue up for not delivering all his mail.
suprised he didnt boat it back to nigeria rather than face jail time...
gonna be hard to do a surname ban on some people who know their way around the system.....
needless to say old bill pulled this rogue up for not delivering all his mail.
suprised he didnt boat it back to nigeria rather than face jail time...
The bloke I sacked wasn't really available for work. We discovered he was off sick from his proper job in a printing works in Bow.
OP everyone has there own selection methods so just leave him be. It's called filtering
As for me, I would never interview anyone
a)who was over 20st in weight
b)Was under 5 foot tall
As for me, I would never interview anyone
a)who was over 20st in weight
b)Was under 5 foot tall
if i was a manger i would not hire anyone named tim henman or andrew castle as they are boring divs. take note bbc!
If I was a manger I'd either let a baby sleep in me, or sack myself for bad spelling.
I wouldnt hire anyone that wouldnt suck my bobby instead of getting paid a wage. joking of course.
realistically the number of job applications looked at subjectively must be a tiny percentage due to biases and 'filtering' as put already.
realistically the number of job applications looked at subjectively must be a tiny percentage due to biases and 'filtering' as put already.
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