Rolf Harris

Should be deported.  They were sent there for a reason, don't know why we let them all back in so easily tbh.

Let them back in for the Ashes and leave it at that

Can't believe he had a court order for four months plus to keep his name anonymous.

one for the legal eagles .

could someone   ask the judge to take x amount of other offences into consideration when he was due to be sentenced and evade further prosecution ?

So big fat Cyril threatened the BBC over probe into MP's private lives.They really think they're untouchable.

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http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/how-cyril-smith-threatened-bbc-over-prover-probe-into-mps-private-lives-1-6703563

The thing is bigmo, they were untouchable.

Thanks to the work of Mark Williams Thomas and the bravery of the victims justice is prevailing, though no one can be happy seeing an old man who had entertained us through the years go to prison.

To be quite honest it all turns your stomach.

Agree totally Steamship they were/are untouchable.Should have worded my comments better.

Agree on the superb work of Mark Williams Thomas - took the story to ITV when the BBC did not want to know.

Shocking that no politicians, alive ones anyway, have been done. Nor any proper "a-list" celebrities or judiciary. Just going after the easy targets who look a bit weird, guilty as they are.

time for a Summer Holiday from Yewtree

hope the judge takes into account Rolf's criminal performance at the Diamond Jubilee concert when he sets the tariff.

rease

This whole operation is a fcking disgrace.

Without saying too much, my mum has had very close involvement in Rolf and other's cases. And I hope my posting record on here proves I'm not an attention seeker. She spits at operation Yewtree. It's a whole charade setup to appease people on the failings involving Saville.

Don't be surprised if in a few year's a national storm over it once someone breaks their silence.

Why not break it now?

Careers and money. 2 simple things that will ensure silence. No top brass is going to risk their 60k+ a year job on a few old lags doing time, no matter how wrong it is.

Once the careers are finished and retirement is being enjoyed, there will money to be made exposing it all and you'll probably get trampled in the rush. Mark my words.

How is your mother involved, does she work for the CPS or something?

Arrests of people linked to the Westminster paedo ring are imminent apparently.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10939349/Lord-Brittan-challenged-to-disclose-role-in-paedophile-dossier-mystery.html

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/jul/01/child-sex-abuse-inquiry-justice-ministers

I cant say, but she has had close involvement in a few, most of all Harris and Glitter. Although the latter is vile and his son isn't much better either.

See what I mean Jack,

If they couldn't be bothered to investigate and deal with this years ago, why after the furore involving Saville?

And don't forget, the main culprit in the Westminster paedo ring (as they put it) is Cyril Smith, who is now dead and not involved in top level politics.

How convenient.

Without saying too much, my mum has had very close involvement in Rolf and other's cases. And I hope my posting record on here proves I'm not an attention seeker. She spits at operation Yewtree. It's a whole charade setup to appease people on the failings involving Saville.


Why exactly? Operation set up to investigate historical sexual abuse leads to the convictions of people who have committed historical sexual abuse and it's a charade??? Sorry but what the ****???

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28113517

Thank goodness that - According to Del Palmer - he was on his best behavior when working with Kate Bush on her Aerial album.

Just a word!!
I've had a number of emails, comments etc regarding the outcome of the court case involving Rolf Harris... It's not for me to comment on his guilt except to say that in all the dealings that I and I believe Kate had with him There was never anything other than a professional attitude shown by him.. At no time did we ever have cause to think ill of his behaviour... He came to play music and, as far as I am aware, that's all he did!!...

hope he never slid his hand down the cover of  Led Zeppelin  IV

Apologists need to remember just because he showed manners/restraint in front of you does not mean he committed no crimes! I'm sure Peter Sutcliffe said please when he popped into his sweet shop for a quarter of Barley Sugars!

If found guilty in a court of law by a jury who weighed up all the evidence who are you to argue as an outsider with limited information?

As for letting sleeping dogs lie.......sorry but justice does not have a finite period. I for one as a father am pleased peados and sex pests like Harris, Glitter, Clifford and Hall etc are now finally paying for what they have done. Pity Smith, Saville etc got away with it. But just because they did doesn't justify not bringing to account other with historical guilt.

I mean, nobody would suggest a cold case murder be forgotten from 10 years ago because 'a lot of time has passed.'

Jun 30, 2014 -- 6:29PM, sideshowbob wrote:

sorry i shouldnt have said that. youve obviously got serious psychological problems. if theres anything i can do to help, just let me know.

Knob, I'm absolutely off my rocker and there's nothing you can do to help me.

However, if ever you need help with your "home cooking" recipes, tips and suggestions - I'm always here for ya

Kids Can Say No: Rolf Harris's educational video about child abuse, 1985 Educational Video Warns Children About Paedophiles
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http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/video/2014/jun/30/kids-can-say-no-rolf-harris-video

In the video, Harris warns the children not to go off with strangers, but also explains that people who they know can also pose a threat.

I want my tv license money back....


It wasn't meant to fund paedoes

I must say that I don't support this business of sentencing 'as it would have been then'.
Would that mean a good old hanging for a murder that took place a while ago? By those standards, it should!

Ridiculous to give a more lenient sentence for crimes of this ilk from 30 years ago, he has been found guilty now not in the 1980's, if he wanted a lenient sentence he should have handed himself in back in 1982 ffs !
Naydam is right if a a killer has been bought to justice now from a murder in 1960 are we going to hang him, of course not, double standards to suit the perpetrator not the victims.

Anyone seen Tonya Lee, one of his victims (the aussie one)

Not a bad milf now.

Does anybody know how long he got? I guess what I'm really asking is, can you see what it is yet? Sport.

Ffs if i hear another "can you tell what it is yet..." Joke. 

Are people doing it BECAUSE it isnt funny or do they genuinely think it is still funny after about a dozen people saying it.

^^^ Hasn't seen what it is yet !

erse2
     04 Jul 14 14:36   


Anyone seen Tonya Lee, one of his victims (the aussie one)

Not a bad milf now


Rolf said you should've seen her when she was 7..

To rob dylan...........I hadn't read the whole thread you grumpy ****.

I hear the Queen has been getting Phillip to scrub her bod down with a nail brush and TCP every day since the verdict.....ouch !

xmoneyx     02 Jul 14 03:04 
hope he never slid his hand down the cover of  Led Zeppelin  IV




Led Zep 1V  !!?    Did you mean this one ?

Poor Rolf, such a shame. He was a good man otherwise.

"wasnt me officer,never put a hand on her" that was so telling and in hindsight a real clue into the man"s character

The only toy that I have from my childhood some 40 years ago that is totally mint and unopened in it;s original box is a Rolf Harris Stylophone and it's totally worthless, any other toy I had from that time would be worth a bomb.  My sister and I both got them, she took hers out of the box and started plying it and I just never fancied it so mine never came out of the box.

Poor Rolf? Nobody forced him to fiddle with kids. Nobody prevented him from owning up. Nobody prevented him from saving his victims the trauma of a court case.
These few cases will be the tip of an iceberg with this man. The vast majority of his victims will NEVER come forward, for reasons of their own.

I agree that it is sad to have to acknowledge that this popular entertainer hid a very dark alter-ego.
But most of all it's sad that he decided that his little bit of sexual gratification was more important than the possible effects of his 'gropings' on young kids.

imagine being in broadmoor, mentally ill and Saville and Harris come round

So you look at everything in black and white do you naydam? Well I don't! You possibly commit far worse offences in my eyes by consuming animals who have had a really **** life and you and others don't give a feck.

sorry kenny,i for one dont understand by what you mean by that,surely you dont mean eating meat is worse than messing with children?

i think he does

no he cant

well imo, thats what the sentence means in english

I mean eating meat that has come from animals who have been cruelly treated all their life. So if you eat meat unless you look into where it's produced from thoroughly you are worse than a child abuser. I could supply videos that may help to convince you.

I see all the "victims" are now claiming money!

and if you don't agree I couldn't give a feck.

no kenny is alright,think we got him at a bad time

not sure how you can possible connect the two

Ok, terry, I'll dig a video out. Watch and then please explain why animal cruelty is not as bad. Got to dash for a meal soon but I may have time to find it.

http://action.farmageddon.co/ea-action/action?ea.client.id=119&ea.campaign.i...

That's a mild one but still upsetting. You don't have to watch of course.

i"ll be honest ken i cant watch it,but i will say that they are both totally wrong,i eat meat but why mankind has to be so cruel ive no idea

Agreed terry. Don't blame you on not watching.

You could sign it though.

happy to do that

I read his paintings had been worth up to the time he painted the queen a few hundred quid each, after he painted, Liz, his artwork was changing hands for around 50 grand a piece.


Now any unlucky **** who invested in the old gropers paintings before he was found guilty of fondling kids may have thought, good investment, he's about to croak, his paintings can only get more valuable because of their rarity. I think they may find they've made a little bit of an  error there.

ty

I would bet Kenny, that most of the victims don't even speak out about their experience...never mind claim compensation for it!

Kenny you are a cretin, calling meat eaters worse than paedophiles! You are frankly a pretty sick individual. You even hijack a thread about Rolf Harris to tell everyone your 'views.' Guess what, nobody gives a flying @&%$.

The apologists for a two faced, conniving and abusive man should hang their heads in shame. Abusing countless young children is all ok apparently if it's a long time ago and you happen o portray yourself as a family based entertainer.

I bet all of those excusing such behaviour and calling all the victims 'money grabbers' don't have children of their own.

Next weeks Animal Hospital where Rolf explains how to handle a young beaver has been cancelled.

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Kenny you are a cretin, calling meat eaters worse than paedophiles

I didn't actually say that, but lets not argue about you mis-quoting me.

Now watch this and tell me I'm totally out of order.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eoF6w7R9oI

Plenty more videos if you've got the stomach after that.

What a hypocrite you are. You seriously believe that eating meat that has a toy tractor on the label absolves you .You have such a problem with meat,its production and consumption but you  don't have the courage or strength to ignore your appetites and eat just  vegetables. Its not even difficult. just don't eat meat.How you have the nerve to present your wavering principles with such fervour is a mystery. You are a hypocrite pure and simple.

Oh go **** yourself, you're going back 2 years to the Red Tractor discussion. I haven't eaten meat for a long while and if I did I'd make damn sure I knew where it was from and how it was cared for, unlike people like you who couldn't give a toss.

My apologies.If you are truly a veggie I was not aware of that and so I'm out of order.

I readily approve of your piety

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You are too kind.

If you watch that video and it doesn't affect your moral senses you must be made of granite.

Seriously though you say you have not eaten meat for a while but I'm sure its not that long ago that you were defending eating ethically produced meat.When did you decide to convert?

Yes I probably was but it doesn't mean I was eating meat at the time. Jan 1st. The only NYR I've stuck with.

I bet most people havent seriously looked at the evidence, 'some' of it against harris is flimsy to say the least, im not going to post it - study it yourself. Especailly the counts in relation to his daughter's friend.

I felt sorry for Rolf but if he touched up Vanessa Veltz he deserves to go down

does he act and look like an innocent man to you tony

does he act and look like an innocent man to you tony

Did he do it? Did he do all of it? Did he do any of it?

Those ought to be separate questions but the media and the jury seem to have treated them as one. My own view is that Rolf is guilty and deserves to be locked up. Having said that, I am surprised he was convicted on all counts as the evidence for the first two seemed very shaky -- if they can't prove he was in the right place or get the date to within two years, then all that is left is that the allegations look similar to the ones they could prove.

As I said, I do not think there has been any great miscarriage of justice but it seems a step back to the bad old days of "noble cause corruption" when known villains would be sent down for jobs they hadn't actually done. "George Davis is innocent" never meant George Davis was in line for sainthood.

It takes a very brave man to "try it on" with Vanessa.One clout from her and you could end up with a face like Jake La Motta.

Humanely slaughtering animals for human consumption is of course important.

However, abusing human minors is more important. If you don't see that Kenny Mann then you truly are as big an imbecile as you portray yourself to be. A jumped up, pious human hating hypocrite.

no cat photos on this thread then

ha ha, maybe later.

charwell, I have no problem when animals are slaughtered as long as it is done as humanely as possible, and they have led a good life. It's the ones in the above (and below) video and 100s of other similar videos that I'm referring to which have probably led a horrible existence and certainly met a disgusting end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eoF6w7R9oI

as regards being an apologist for sex abusers although I'm sure it happens it seems to me that all you need to do is prove that you were in an area during the same time as Rolf Harris, the further back in time, the better, then your case will be cut and dry. Just sit back and let the media, the law and the courts do all the crucifying on your behalf at the tax payers expense while you remain behind the scenes.
If you decide to wave your anonymity and come out front with your allegations of the horrific touching of your body by our Rolfy, claiming he  ruined the rest of your life, then you will be offered thousands of pounds by the media for your story and TV appearances as the long and suffering victim of having yourself touched by a celebrity back in 1857  Even if your story is a load of lies and total bollocks it makes no difference, as all you need to be is convincing enough.

And if their story is the truth?

They have to prove it I should think, and explain why they waited 40 years.

How would they prove it 'then'? No forensic evidence. The celebrities word against that of a child.

"They won't believe you because you're only a kid". As true today as it ever was.

Why did they wait 40 years? They felt 'dirty'. They felt it was their fault. They didn't know that there were other victims. Their word alone would not even get to court. They wanted to forget it and 'move on'. They didn't want their father/son/family to know for any number of personal reasons.

How many explanations would you like?

Well I doubt if all of the accusers have photographic evidence, but can prove they were in the same place as the alleged molester at the time of the assault which I did say.

Some of them will be after money, very little doubt about that. In fact they've already got their eyes on his 12m

And how else would the perpetrator compensate his many victims? A lot of these peoples' lives will have been screwed up by the psychological effects of his acts. They are the ones who have not, and will never, come forward. They will keep their dark, sordid secret to themselves, as they have done all of their lives.

I will agree that there may well be some sham claims put forward but these claims are checked by the police. It is not just a matter of 'stick your name on the list'. They are criminal charges and are treated as such.

I don't buy all this "lives ruined" stuff, admittedly it may have had a dramatic effect in the more serious cases, but most will have put it well out of their mind.

So you're saying (and it's obviously a subject very dear to your heart by the number of similar threads you've commented on)that the alleged victim needs to prove she was in the same place as Rolf at the time of the alleged assault are you? Or photographic evidence as well?

that nolan woman is  a vile person

agree there

apparently rolf's art is not wanted anymore. even ebay don't want to sell it.

Rolf's portrait of the queen made her look like an axe murderer. She was not amused. In fact she called him a fooooking cnunt to his face

Kenny. I don't understand the second part of your post.

I was just wondering what proof they might deem as acceptable, naydam, for them to consider the accusation as upheld, so to speak.Can they just say they were in the same place in a certain year as the accused or would they need more than that? More than that would be difficult to supply I would imagine.

Quite right Kenny, Polaroid cameras never came out until the 70s.