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TheChaser
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MisterBadger
When: 20 Jun 14 19:42
£200m - are you sure?
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 20 Jun 14 19:44
That looks like BS to me.
It's probably turnover.

Someone could easily spend £20 but have a turnover of £1000 and still take his £20 (or more) back out of the machine.
By:
erse2
When: 20 Jun 14 19:48
£200/y for every man, woman and child in Glasgow. Doubtful.
By:
akabula
When: 20 Jun 14 20:12
@SF That's exactly what it is. turnover used because it paints a grimmer picture. Each machine generates approx £900 profit per week (based on hills published accounts and pre licence and tax costs). So if anyone knows how many bookies are in Glasgow they could work out the annual spend. BTW to arrive at £200m you would need 1m lbo's with 4 machines each based on hills figures.
Typical media reporting.
By:
PugMunter1
When: 20 Jun 14 20:27
bookies galore in glasgow

a gamblers paradise

not surprised at those figures
By:
Biscar Two from a mile back
When: 20 Jun 14 20:42
The story is based on 200 shops in glasgow with 4 machines a shop,
By:
Biscar Two from a mile back
When: 20 Jun 14 20:47
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-27926213


About £700 per machine per day staked
By:
Clerkmore
When: 20 Jun 14 20:57
No wonder they want independence with all that money knocking about.
By:
PugMunter1
When: 20 Jun 14 21:04
Laugh
By:
Barry Conway
When: 20 Jun 14 21:15
They only drink alcohol that's made by monks. They are a discerning lot.
By:
windsor knot
When: 20 Jun 14 21:26
£900 profit a week !!!!...i'll get a machine in my front room , give 'em some buckie and job done .even  better than running 'riponbet' which i believe is the course in house tote . 66/1 winner yesterday, sp . 'tote' paid 12/1. well done for putting off some more 'winners' from ever coming racing again.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 20 Jun 14 21:27
GAMBLERS in Scotland’s biggest city are spending more than £200 million on controversial fixed odds betting terminals every year, an investigation has revealed.

More than £500,000 is ploughed into around 800 machines in just over 200 betting shops in Glasgow every day, the city council study found.

Punters typically stake more than £12 on each spin on fixed odds betting terminals (FOBT) which are used to play roulette and other games.

Glasgow City Council’s cross-party sounding board study is believed to be the first in Britain to attempt to gauge the impact high-speed, high-stake gambling machines have on a city and its communities.

It stops short of calling for FOBTs to be banned but recommends a new approach to regulating gaming and urges regulators to commission detailed independent research to establish the impact of allowing casino-style gambling on the high street.

Councillor Paul Rooney, chair of the cross-party sounding board and Glasgow’s city treasurer, said: “I’m not against gambling, but the industry is regulated for a reason - to ensure that when gambling takes place in our communities it is within a safe, sustainable and responsible environment.

“In the case of fixed odds betting terminals, that principle has failed.

“More than a dozen years after machines appeared on our high streets, neither the industry nor its regulators are able to identify to what extent - if any - the intense speed of play, the ability to win large prizes with relatively low stakes, and the opportunity to increase stakes rapidly influences problem gambling.

“In the meantime, Glasgow has become home to more than 200 street-corner casinos, without our communities ever having had the opportunity to consider whether they want them.”

Punters in Glasgow lose around £31 million each year, with bookies taking around £1.5 billion from FOBTs across Britain - more than from horse racing, dog racing and football betting combined, the study found.

The machines were introduced to Britain, unregulated, early in the 21st century and eventually classified as category B2 gambling terminals in 2005, when ministers introduced a limit of four terminals per premises.

FOBT games do not give gamblers the opportunity to apply any degree of skill in their play, with wins and losses resting entirely on chance.

Mr Rooney said: “Glaswegians are gambling £200 million on FOBTs, losing £31 million, and the city is paying a huge price financially, socially and in terms of the health of thousands of people at risk of developing gambling problems.

“There is an urgent need for regulation to catch up with the market, which has grown at an incredible pace, and start dealing with these issues.”

He added: “Here in Glasgow, we want Scottish ministers to give us the same power that councils in England and Wales will soon have to use the planning system to halt the clustering of betting shops in high streets and town centres.

“And the industry needs to take some very big and potentially difficult decisions if it expects its self exclusion policies to be taken seriously.”

These  cross-party sounding board was convened in April after councillors backed a call from Mr Rooney to investigate the use of FOBTs in Glasgow.

The report will go before councillors next week.Cry
By:
Emden
When: 20 Jun 14 23:26
It's their incapacity benefit - they can spend it how they want!
By:
call me a taxi
When: 21 Jun 14 01:03
800 machines for £200,000,000 staked
1 machine takes £250,000 a year
Open 365 days a year for 10 hours.
That's £685 a day
£68.50 an hour
They say £12 a spin
That's roughly one spin for £12 every 6 minutes, all day long.
I've never seen a shop that busy.
By:
Paddy Hair
When: 21 Jun 14 09:34
To be fair they're making fortunes betting against England.
By:
FredRescue
When: 21 Jun 14 10:17
What is the UK average per machine?
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