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20 Jun 14
18:36
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Two WC QFs and one Euro QF (all narrow defeats)
When do England beat the top nations when it matters? Under Sven we beat Germany (away) 5-1 in qualifying for the 2002 WC and Argentina in the finals.
The only other occasions that i can recall us beating a top nation in competition was beating Italy in 1977 (I think Italy had already qualified for the 1978 WC) and Holland at Euro 96. And that's since 1966!
When do England beat the top nations when it matters? Under Sven we beat Germany (away) 5-1 in qualifying for the 2002 WC and Argentina in the finals.
The only other occasions that i can recall us beating a top nation in competition was beating Italy in 1977 (I think Italy had already qualified for the 1978 WC) and Holland at Euro 96. And that's since 1966!
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We also beat Germany at Euro 2000
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Did a decent job with an average set of players. Trouble is back then all the mugs thought our players were world class and we should be winning major trophies. Expectations far more realistic these days
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We might have won major trophies if (a) we'd ever planned for penalty shoot-outs, and (b) the German world cup wasn't hit by a heatwave.
Some of our players really were world class at their peaks: Gazza, Lineker, Shearer, Beckham, Owen; Cashley, Rio & Terry at the back. |
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Agree with Don.. Could do with a G Bale for starters... What a waste of talent. (WALES)
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another failure who milked millions out of the F.A. reminded me someone how many years were they paying him after he got the sack?the question is why do these clowns get paid for failure?not just football either
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heard a brilliant conversation on a radio phone in today. The guy who rang in was a data analyst and he worked for Barcelona and some English Premier clubs who he would not mention. He said that all the top nations, the top clubs in Europe and most of the premiership now subscribe to this data that gives you all the info on a players stats. I remember Steve McClaren used to do this when he was assistant to Jim Smith at Derby and it was one of the reasons Ferguson took him to Man Utd. However he went on to say that the English FA was one of the few nations that did not use this new technology as part of it's planning. Although no replacement for skill and coaching, many clubs do use this info to help them pinpoint various factors in an upcoming game, he checked some data against Louis Suarez and the worst 2 performing defenders to have played against him were Baines and Jagielka of Everton who as you know were 50% of England's defence against Uruguay.
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"England were unlucky today against Uruguay. They created a lot of chances. England have not had any luck in this World Cup"
Sven Goran-Ericsson. That's how much insight that old fraud brings to the party. |
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I agree with him. We haven't
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I've had a very lumpy bet on Germany to win the tournament.
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Before your new rule today I hope spelling'.
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2-2
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Bang on time 2-2
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That was a really great game, 2-2 FT
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gerrard and lampard's england careers consist of winning only 1 match of any consequence at all - ecuador in 2006. i don't count qualifiers or group matches. says it all really
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