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13 Jun 14
13:21
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put yourself in the shoes of one of these people who decide to withdraw benefits to someone who hasn't "fulfilled his or her obligations", would you be happy doing this???? I know I couldn't.
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Any economist will tell you that you need a pool of unemployed people. If you have full employment it means there is no expectation of growth. SO STOP DEMONIZING the poor schmucks at the bottom. Stop pointing downhill and point uphill at the trickle down psychos who tear the world apart with their algorithms and financial formulas for investments. save a penny and burn a billion.
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zorro is absolutely correct - the government is more than happy to have a huge pool of people unemployed and given the bare minimum to exist. the bonus is it gives them a part of society to demonise. the last thing they want is full employment which gives great power to the workforce.
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Govt are going heavy on those on JSA so they can claim that unemployment is falling......meanwhile the Housing Benifit bill grows because wages are so low that many working people now are forced to claim it.
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Is my somalian friend still getting his £2,000 a week housing benefit for the place in Fulham, or has the benefit cap been introduced to him?
And was the person who gave him permission to live there from the DHSS, sacked from his/her job? |
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Is my somalian friend still getting his £2,000 a week housing benefit for the place in Fulham
How do we know? He is YOUR friend - ask him |
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I've lost his phone number
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The Muslim DSS workers around here have no conscious about doing it.
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Difficult one. By just going on age, would you be guilty of age discrimination if you sanctioned a 59yr old and not a similarly able 60 yr old? How difficult is it to wor in a call centre. My next door neighbour is 80 and she's always on the phone.
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How difficult is it to wor in a call centre.
And somo of you think asians are hard to understand. An old cockney with a smoke ravaged voice box voice is worse  |
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@Pandora
I worked in the dhss in the late 60s and left because of the way some claimants were treated. The dept I worked in dealt with mothers and kids who's husband/father had deserted them and they needed what was termed as an 'emergency payment'. A few of the dhss workers saw them as dirt and treated them as such. I was young and scared to speak up which is something I now regret. |
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The DSS frontline staff are on bonus commission to sanction people. It's well documented.
They are set monthly targets etc Many 'trick' people into not complying. These days, you need to cross the t's and dot the i's, 100%, otherwise you'll be sanctioned There are 10's of thousands sanctioned at any one time. It's a well known way to keep numbers down. http://www.theguardian.com/housing-network/2014/mar/11/benefit-sanctions-britains-youth-jobcentre-plus . |
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you are right Pandora it is gross
I know a bloke of 60 who is forced to learn IT skills, apply for umpteen jobs a week just to get his JSA He wants to work, but who is going to employ him at his age? We are a sad failing society, who just wants to blame the victims, the people at the bottom ugh! |
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He wants to work ...
No he Doesn't Really Gery ... But who would Want to at 60 !! |
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me. think of yourself and what you're doing now, in 25 plus years, that's me.
got to keep the brain ticking over. anyway, i'm no good at gardening. |
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I'd be happy never working again .. what's worth working for anyway .. nobodies ever answered that question of mine .. just talk cr^p about how much bills cost & how you should earn as much money as possible .. you've all had a blue rinse brainwash .. imo
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To be honest I'd be bored if I didn't have to make money betting to live.
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I could just about exist on my income but it would be very tight.
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You cut your cloth to suit. Took early retirement 7 years ago. Never regretted it and as busy as I want to be.
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you don't own anything , property etc then Kenny
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trouble is i fuked my pension up by retiring at 47 but you can't have it both ways. took 5 years off but then needed to do something. fortunately i stumbled across betfair which soon became my hobby and an income.
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no MC,I don't apart from my house.
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so you do own a house .. you don't need to work then .. you could sell up tomorrow and do whatever you choose !
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Homeowners should be means tested for JSA, pensions and other benefits. Well said.
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as I said earlier i like working. spent 3 hours today going round the betting shops, keeps me active. need an interest and that supplies it plus can make a tidy income. having to me more discreet though. on my 3rd city. lol
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Cool , not knocking you Kenny , i'd be bored if i didn't play poker / bet too , plus it makes me a living !
But the end result doesn't add up , what's the point of wasting a life away just to trawl around betting shops when you could be doing something enjoyable at least , surely it isn't that much fun , i hate betting & playing poker tbh (losers game) |
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I only do it for the money .. much rather not bother if i didn't have to .. and the truth is i probably don't have to when half the cr^ppy country lives of benefits anyway
Probably be better off just trawling around not caring in a boat or a motorhome ! |
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yeh, but at least I get out of the house, you can't with poker. Plus I don't JUST go in the betting shops. I go for a pint, have a meal at some posh place and chat any chicks up that I can. I'm remarkably well preserved for my age.
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Gardeners in this area charge £16/17 an hour , sure beats working in ASDA
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Yeah the trick is , Living in the Area i suspect .....
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Sica Dan
14 Jun 14 01:19 Gardeners in this area charge £16/17 an hour , sure beats working in ASDA That's what girlfriends are for..   |
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Mc Moonbeam • June 13, 2014 11:59 PM BST
He wants to work ... No he Doesn't Really Gery ... But who would Want to at 60 !! yes he does moonbeam he earns more money.....he struggles on JSA what the feck can anyone on £70 a week |
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do
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Ay decent society ensure there is work for everybody...at a reasonable wage
although I would accept some would earn more than others But all rich people would have to justify their wealth or I would shoot them! |
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the reason wages are so low is because we are producing less at a slower rate,so wages wont rise
millions are self employed get 2 grand of the government to start non producing so called buisness,s as someone said earliermillions of these jobs still result in people getting benefits,jsa stats are now completly worthless |
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Who's going to recruit someone over 60 though? Harsh. Can't you claim income support instead?
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the poorest members of society are certainly being ATTACKED, left right and centre. PIP waiting lists, no excuse, people waiting almost a year for their medicals, now the other disability benefit (whatever its called now) facing similar lengthy waiting list.
Councils almost have the same power as job centres, i have experience of this myself, forcing you to enter their crappy work zones or face loss of housing benefit. Even if you claim for a discretionary bedroom tax award they are making you wait for a decision, by then you owe your landlord over £100 which you cant afford. Food banks growing by the day, people working still cant afford to live because their wages are disproportionate,while directors of utility companies live off the backs of the poor sods who are frightened to turn on their heating. This country is sick, i despise the gov't, all they stand for, the elite, the banks, the world leaders whose only goal in life is to make more money, even going to war to enhance their own priavte greed. and FECK OFF,IN FACT! |
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HEAR HEAR!
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rather ironic that cameron launches his british values,tolerance,fairness, compassion etc as his party firmly keep their steel cap boots on the throat of societys most vulnerable
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