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Well I never.
Well I never.
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so did his tastes 'degenerate' from almost legal females to very much not, males?
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"good to be back hello hello"
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Gary Glitter
Rolf Harris Jimmy Savile Max Clifford Cyril Smith Freddie Starr Stuart Hall Can you see the connection? They were all loud-mouth extroverts with socio-pathic tendencies (Dave Lee Travers - Jury's out) |
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D'you wanna be in my gang , my gang, my gang, D'you wanna be in my gang, Oh Yeah
D'you wanna be in my gang , my gang, my gang, D'you wanna be in my gang? Yeah ok, said Jimmy, Stuart and Max. |
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It still amazes me that people just pile the 'convictions' onto saville.
500 the figure is now, it defies logic that he'd not have been tried while he lived. Yet after his death we went within just a few months from innocent, to suspected of wrongs to most prolific proven sex offender of all time Without anything even resembling a trial. Its like russia finding people guilty after death. |
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The evidence is there....and the multiple testimonies
( are you saying he might not have committed the crimes ? ) |
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No one dared have a go at him while he was alive as he had many 'friends' in high places which gave him a lot of perceived power.
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I have no idea whether he did or not.
But he lived to 85 ffs, we saying 500 people could get even a trial in all that time? seems perverse to me that the general 'knowledge' is now one of convicted offender when he has no chance of defence. |
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*couldnt
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the guy has been 'tried by kangaroo court' had everything in his name destroyed and even his grave decimated.
Without any semblance of trial. |
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Why dont we dig thatcher up?
she really did inflict suffering, why dont we try her now? |
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The public perception now is that he was an evil,narcissistic, selfish, psychopath who has greatly damaged near 500 lives and many organisations.
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I know what the perception is.
But people with pitchforks can use perception as an argument. Im not saying he was innocent, what Im saying is nobody is stating the fact that the guy has been charged in his absence without any due process. |
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I cant think of another example where 'we' as a collective have ridden somebody with such abandon after death.
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You can try someone in their absence.
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Not after death you cant
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*actually I dont know whether thats true, there might be cases where you can, but at least you have a trial.
No trial been had here |
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Strange case to take up dustybin. Have you seen any of his victims being interviewed? Some said the reason they never said anything at the time was that they were scared of him. Others who did make a complaint were met with people reluctant to pursue the matter because of saviles perceived power.
I'm surprised anyone would express sympathy for him in any respect. |
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They waited for Savile to die before they exposed him.
Now they're waiting for the ones who covered for him to die so that they can expose them. They cover for each other and they've been getting away with it for decades. It's pretty clear that the police were heavily involved in all the cover ups as well. According to the brushing under the carpet of complaints to the police, the police must be rotten to the core. |
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it's absolute garbage they are just trying to stitch The Leader up because of all the failures, what chance has he of a fair trial? Rock on Gazza.
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I think you have misinterpreted what Im saying.
Im saying there isnt a comparable event where for one reason or another all due process has been abandoned simply out of supposition. Like I said, I have no idea whether he was innocent or guilty of the 'charges', thankfully it isnt my place to decide. One thing Id have a massive bet on though is that whoever is responsible behind the scenes who know about big data will look at the 500 figure with incredulity. Humans are opportunistic. |
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I would agree that given human nature some peep have probably jumped on the 'kerching' bandwagon.
500 or 400 or whatever I've no doubt having seen the evidence that savile was a sick sexual predator. |
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Yes.
But do you not also concede that the laws of the land must apply? No judgement has been declared yet everyone seems to 'know' what occurred. Just seems bizarre to me nobody is highlighting this. |
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He's beyond the laws of the land now he is dead but that doesn't stop people coming to their own conclusions.
To me he is guilty as charged and deserves the revulsion he is now receiving. |
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His estate (assets on death) can be used for compensation and his genetic relatives will have to bear the infamy of association with satanic-Savile.
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problem is with Saville people in high places ( governments, police, bbc ) were protecting him, surely they should be tried ,imprisoned and executed .
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I never really experienced the man, except once.
He didnt nonce me so I have no opinion of him. I just wish they'd be consistency, if we can wait for people to die to lambast people then why dont we do it more? |
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problem is with Saville people in high places ( governments, police, bbc ) were protecting him, surely they should be tried ,imprisoned and executed .
I dont argue with that. I simply say then charge and put them to trial, dont suppose guilt. |
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I think we can be fairly sure that Savile was a prolific abuser but I reckon some of the claims are false.
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Of course he's a sex case but Dusty is correct.What is the point of a judicial system if you can be convicted after death without trial and labelled by the media / government as the worst offender ever without defence. I'm not saying its not fair on good old Jim but something stinks here.
The crowd that were turning a blind eye to his antics should be bought to book and I suspect the list would be a long one. |
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dustbin.....................I understand where u r coming from, just now in Aussie we are looking to bring to justice the people who protected and shielded these abusers, the people further up the line that knew about abusive clergy and such and moved them on, like overseas or to interstate schools.
Also we try people all the time after death, all thru history we have done this, the most recent being Bin baby, no due process of law there, executed on sight. |
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Executed on sight and quite rightly so. He had declared war on the western world and got what he deserved.
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I see the 12 year old Windass girl off Coronation Street is "up the duff next", well if they try and blame that one on Gazza I will protest outside the Granada studios!!!
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