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rob_dylan
02 Jun 14 22:10
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Dont tell me to just stop, that wont work.  Anyone tried allen carr, how much does it cost?  Tried NHS?  Electric smokes?  Anything?  I do worry about future health problems and also been doing running recently and feel packing up smoking would give me much improved times.
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Report PugMunter1 • June 2, 2014 10:14 PM BST
think of the worst thing you can imagine that will hurt yourself or family if you ever have another smoke

have this is your mind each time you get cravings
Report Angel Gabrial • June 2, 2014 10:20 PM BST
How good is your imagination Rob?
Report Angel Gabrial • June 2, 2014 10:21 PM BST
PugMunter is on the right lines on how to do it.
Report rob_dylan • June 2, 2014 10:22 PM BST
£250 for a 6 hour seminar with hypnotherapy with allan carr.  Money back if you are smoking after 3 months.  Hmm, i am tempted, would change my life.  Can do it in brighton on a weekend too.
Report Angel Gabrial • June 2, 2014 10:24 PM BST
Your own imagination is free Rob.
Report PugMunter1 • June 2, 2014 10:24 PM BST
its all psychological imo
Report PugMunter1 • June 2, 2014 10:24 PM BST
allan carr is dead rob
Report a bitofinterest • June 2, 2014 10:25 PM BST
think allens got something else to stick in your mouth Blush
Report Angel Gabrial • June 2, 2014 10:26 PM BST
Yes Pug, after 20 odd years of smoking i used my imagination to get me through the first 2 weeks of not smoking and after that i realised i was not addicted to the nicotine but to the habit...after that it was a lot easier. It`s been over 4 years now.
Report Angel Gabrial • June 2, 2014 10:27 PM BST
Laugh
Report creatureinthesky • June 2, 2014 10:28 PM BST
I read the book and it didn't work first go but changes my mentality totally. Quit about  5 years ago.

You have to want to quit,

Just things like the fact that you're never relaxed as a smoker and it's the smoking that makes you stressed, how can you ever be relaxed if at some point you need a hit ?!

Best wishes and go on a diet at the same time.

You will not regret it.
Report rob_dylan • June 2, 2014 10:29 PM BST
I am very very close to forking out £250 for a day's session, full money back guarantee, what have i got to lose?
Report Angel Gabrial • June 2, 2014 10:30 PM BST
£250?
Report PugMunter1 • June 2, 2014 10:30 PM BST
congrats angel glad you managed to kick the habit

bet you saved a lot of cash too

i have the odd smoke once i have been drinking. Feel guilty the next day

Did you find it hard to stop when you had a drink?
Report Ramruma • June 2, 2014 10:30 PM BST
For me, just stopping worked at the fifth or sixth attempt. Staying off the booze helped.

Electric cigarettes seem to be great although I've noticed a few people still have one or two proper ones a day alongside.
Report Mc Moonbeam • June 2, 2014 10:31 PM BST
Good advice & very true about the habit , you do get cold turkey from the nicotine which lasts about 2 weeks , but you have to want to quit

I started again as had so much stress to deal with but think i mainly smoke through sheer boredom
Report Mc Moonbeam • June 2, 2014 10:32 PM BST
drink is always the danger .. even with electric cigs you always wanna real smoke with a drink !!
Report Angel Gabrial • June 2, 2014 10:32 PM BST
I did Pug, but then started chewing on a tooth pick and i soon realised it did the same thing, a bit of a tooth pick habit without the smell.
Report PugMunter1 • June 2, 2014 10:38 PM BST
mc drink is my biggest hurdle when it comes to smoking
Report PugMunter1 • June 2, 2014 10:40 PM BST
well at least you have stopped angel thats the main thing

i have drunk  times in past week without wanting a smoke so maybe i am turning a corner
Report PugMunter1 • June 2, 2014 10:40 PM BST
3 times
Report disicipline=£££££££££££££sssss • June 2, 2014 10:40 PM BST
my top tip when trying to stop,stay away from friends who smoke ,they will do their best to get you started againGrin

ex smoker 30 a day man(18 years)
Report DStyle • June 2, 2014 10:41 PM BST
Did Allen Carr's book.

It's about embracing, accepting and believing one rather obvious point:

Nearly all the pleasure you derive from smoking come from alleviating the symptoms of nicotine withdrawal

You get that, you stop. And you stop easily.

It can take time to understand and believe it from reading his books alone, so why not go to a seminar if it's not worked yet.

Gave up probably about 10 years ago now off the back of the book. Still smoke the odd cigarette after I've had too much to drink, with no fear that i'll ever go back to smoking properly.
Report rob_dylan • June 2, 2014 10:58 PM BST
Have just ordered the book
Report PugMunter1 • June 2, 2014 11:09 PM BST
smoking is seen to be the cool thing to do these days
Report Burton-Brewers • June 2, 2014 11:55 PM BST
£250!!!! I could get 2/3rds a box of Cohibas for that
Report PugMunter1 • June 2, 2014 11:59 PM BST

Jun 2, 2014 -- 5:55PM, Burton-Brewers wrote:


£250!!!! I could get 2/3rds a box of Cohibas for that


you cant have hypnotherapy with a dead person so it would have been a waste of money anyway

Report bigmo • June 3, 2014 11:35 AM BST
Just forget the whole thing and carry on smoking as you haven't got a cat in hell's chance of giving up.

I don't mean that in a nasty way but you have to really want to give up and feel this is the time.

When you mind is ready get the strongest patches on the market and go for it.It's not as hard as you think.I tried for over 40 years and never managed a day off them until the patches.

I'm nearly four years off them now.Best thing I ever did.It helps that it's banned in pubs now as well.If you get off them you'll realise what a disgusting filthy habit it is when you get near a smoker.

Good luck.
Report sofiakenny • June 3, 2014 12:01 PM BST
i was on 60 tabs a day and stopped cold turkey..everyone said no way could i do it..they were wrong...what worked for me was imagining that I had to tell the person I loved most on the planet that I had cancer due to my stupid smoking addiction...try and imagine how they would feel if you gave them that news.gl.
Report PugMunter1 • June 3, 2014 12:06 PM BST
good post kenny

thinkin of something truly awful seems to do the trick

3 nights on the drink and still havnt had a smoke - proud of myself
Report bigmo • June 3, 2014 12:37 PM BST
Well done PugMunter1.
Report PugMunter1 • June 3, 2014 12:47 PM BST
thanks bigmo and congratulations to yourself as per your earlier post

it is a disgusting habit. Clothes smelling of smokee etc


what really annoys me is folk that say

"ah well im goin to die of something so why should i stop?"

look after your body as much as you can and give yourself a chance at living a lot longer
Report Burton-Brewers • June 3, 2014 1:16 PM BST
well I am goin to die of something so why should I stop
Report PugMunter1 • June 3, 2014 1:24 PM BST
Laugh
Report Facts • June 3, 2014 2:13 PM BST
I started smoking at 17 and smoked for 23 years, ( 20 - 30 a day ) . Stopped at age of 40. My daughter had just been born. I wanted to live long enough to see her grow up into a beautiful woman and have a family of her own. My selfish habit put that in jeopardy. So I stopped. I'd tried in previous years and failed each time, very early on too ! There was always a reason for starting to smoke again. Pressure at work, I deserved it , arguments with my wife ! It's the little worm in your head saying ' go on ' - have a cigarette  !
So I stopped  as I say when my daughter was born. It was very difficult, and I almost  weakened  many times. But you come to realise how pathetic it is that you place so much reliance on tobacco. It's a drug simple as that. But I was determined , I kept a chart on my wall filled in months,weeks,days,hours since i stopped. I crossed through each hour ! I also had a large glass  jar into which went  the money I would have spent on smoking. I avoided situations were I would have enjoyed a smoke and went to sleep early each night ,just to pass the hours away. I drank lots of water too. Gradually things got better. Hours would go by and you realised you hadn't thought about smoking. And that time span grows. It is difficult , but so rewarding when you succeed. I still occasionally would love a smoke, but the feeling only lasts for a few seconds. Best thing I ever did  Happy
Report Burton-Brewers • June 3, 2014 3:38 PM BST
I smoked half a cigar in the time it took to read that
Report PatraTheCat • June 3, 2014 5:34 PM BST
What about a ridiculously complicated rationing system for cutting down? I have a complicated alcohol rationing system which cut down my weekly average from about 80 units to around 35. You need to think quite mathematically, which you do, but also you have to prefer cutting down to giving up totally, so this is more of a Plan B if Allen Carr doesn't work.
Report rob_dylan • June 3, 2014 8:16 PM BST
I have only had 4 so far today as it happens patra.  Which is very very few for me at 8pm
Report spellingandgrammarchecker • June 3, 2014 8:32 PM BST
I haven't smoked for a month since I was on a three day bender. I don't crave nicotine thankfully but I do smoke when I'm in the mood which is hardly ever.
Report PatraTheCat • June 3, 2014 9:08 PM BST
The way I do it with the booze is to limit myself to 35 units per week. If I go over one week (which I do deliberately about five times a year and accidentally another three), I don't drink at all the next week. One of the reasons it works is that it's sort of fun rationing out the booze.

One of the reasons it's so stable though is that to break the system utterly I'd have to do so when I was sober. If you did it with fágs, you'd have to think of a way to not let yourself permanently break the system while drunk. Not sure how you'd do that.

Maybe with booze it's better to cut down and with cigs it's better just to quit.
Report rob_dylan • June 3, 2014 9:16 PM BST
As it happens i have only drunk on 20 separate days in the last 140ish days.  Prob averaged about 25 units on each of those days mins, so 500 units in 140 days.. 3.5/day, still over the weekly recommendation of 21 ffs,  25/wk a massive improvememt mind.
Report dizzydavid1 • June 3, 2014 10:51 PM BST
For what it's worth Rob what did it for me was nicotine lozenges. 20 Bensons a day for over 30 years, tried almost all the popular methods but the one that helped me crack it was those Niquitin lozenges. The catalyst though was my young daughters pleading with me to quit. I've not smoked now for two and a half years. Good luck, you can get there if you want it enough.
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