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HH Sultan Vinegar
20 May 14 16:12
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oYefwo0nDs

Miliband being interviewed on ITV this morning.  Him and his missus are bringing home approx £ 7500 per week and they only spend £80 a week on grub. Reid says it all really. . .

Ed : We probably spend, er, you know, 70, 80 pounds per week on groceries at least, probably more than that. The point is that different families will have different costs they face. What I am clear about is that there is a crisis facing so many people.

Susannah Reid : The average weekly bill for a family of four is more than £100. So you are going to spending significantly more than £70/80. People would say that one of the problems with politicians is that they are actually talking about something but out of touch with the reality, and the reality is much higher than you’ve just quoted.

Ed : Sure.

FFS Laugh

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By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 20 May 14 16:35
He probably eats most of his meals out.

But he isn't going to say that.  Is he?!
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 20 May 14 16:41
I reckon politicians have always been somewhat removed from what the 'ordinary Joe' does/think but the last 15 years or so have seen an even bigger break from reality by our 'leaders' than ever before.

It's staggering to hear what they say at times, as they're so used to their acolytes hanging onto their every word in the cloud cuckoo land they inhabit.
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 20 May 14 16:48
Has there ever been a better example than Clegg?
He DEMANDED a referendum on PR for his participation in the coalition, after the Liberals had been banging on about it for years thinking that's what the voters wanted - and if it was achieved, would then make the Libs a 'real' party - and were then summarily dismissed at the voting booths.

You've never heard another squeak out of any of them about it since.

Then, he challenges Farage to a live debate on the EU - because he thinks so many people believe/will believe his nonsense about it - and he gets totally humiliated.

Has there ever been anyone more out of touch with the public than Clegg?
By:
BARROWBOY
When: 20 May 14 16:49
hes a robot,unless hes briefed specifically on a subject he wouldnt know the answer,probably hasnt been in a supermarket apart from a photo shoot in the last 5 yrs.funny how these top politicians often get caught out in these soft interviews like good morning though,maybe they take their eye off the ball,it happened to brown before the last election too.
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 20 May 14 17:06
And who can forget Osborne trying to court favourable publicity be tweeting a picture of himself eating a burger and chips when he was putting the final touches to a wholesale spending review last year?

The burger cost £6.75 (at least) yet he thought that would go down well with 'the great unwashed' trying to get by on £6.75 for about 3 days worth of meals.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/jun/27/george-osborne-burger-tweet
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 20 May 14 17:09
I bet Milliband hasn't shopped since he was a student
By:
posy
When: 20 May 14 17:19
It frightens me to think that this Wally could be representing this country as prime minister and attending meetings with Obama,Putin,Merkel etc. It just doesn't bear thinking about.
By:
Zazu
When: 20 May 14 17:19
I don't see what the problem is

If you cut back on luxuries can easily do a family of 4s grocery shopping for £80 a week

I wouldn't have a clue how much a pint of milk is. I need it for cereals so its a must buy and the supermarkets are always competing with each other on prices anyway
By:
BARROWBOY
When: 20 May 14 17:23
dont worry posy,they probably wouldnt know the cost of a tesco shop either.on the basis of that interview though hed do well to steer clear of the live election tv debates
By:
MrNibbs
When: 20 May 14 17:41
You should be a politician Tommy, the thread is about Ed  Miliband and you've not said one word about him.

Good old Ed reckond Jim Grant is doing a great job of being Leader of Swindon Council, even though he doesn't know who he is and he doesn't lead Swindon Council.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27483541

Superb.
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 20 May 14 17:48
Ha! I mentioned in my first post how removed they ALL are in the last 15 years, Mr Nibbs. Labour were in power for 9 and a half years of that time.

It certainly isn't the Labour Party that I grew up with.
Miliband is probably the best of a totally shocking 3 leaders - and that isn't saying much.
By:
posy
When: 20 May 14 17:49
It's not that Barrowboy ;I don't expect him to know such 'mundane' things however he's so wooden and like his mentor mad Gordon can't form an opinion without seeking the help of a focus group.
By:
naydam
When: 20 May 14 17:54
There is a fourth possibility. C'mon Nige!!  DevilDevil
By:
fairweather
When: 20 May 14 18:06
Comical to think the 'out of touch' barb is one of Red Ed's favourite ways of putting down the Conservatives - good to see saucy Susanna sticking it to the muppet - a very different story to the GMTV days when Fiona Phillips, a fully paid up Labourite, would ask Gordon/Tony a couple of gentle questions, then go on to ask how their family was doing!
By:
sideshowbob
When: 20 May 14 18:15
i live on my own and spend over £100 a week on groceries whn you include toiletries/cleaning products etc. hes havin a giraffe. Plain
By:
sideshowbob
When: 20 May 14 18:15
how much is a pint of milk? Cool
By:
posy
When: 20 May 14 18:42
depends where you buy it
By:
toffee87
When: 20 May 14 20:27
you can get 4 pints of milk for £1 in most supermarkets these days

I spend at least £150/week probably nearer £200/week for my family of 5 - and I never overpay as I have a fair idea of how much everything costs in most supermarket so I share my spend between Asda, Iceland, Home Bargains and Tesco - I only get special offers from Tesco as they are a big rip off
By:
sideshowbob
When: 20 May 14 20:37
i bought some plenty towel thingies today in sainsburys £2, walked up the road and saw them in the window of superdrug for £1.20. i felt a proper nana ah can tell thee. mind you, i wouldnt have actually gone in superdrug. cant stand the place. did feel royally ripped off though.
By:
toffee87
When: 20 May 14 20:41
there's nothing worse even when only for pennies as its the principle of it
By:
DStyle
When: 20 May 14 21:15
i wonder where he pretends to shop.

Given that Shepherd Foods and Melrose and Morgan are quite possibly two of the most overpriced local grocery stores in the whole of the UK, and the two closest shops to where he lives, i'm struggling to believe £80.
By:
toffee87
When: 20 May 14 21:43
as someone said, how much eating at home do you think he actually does ?

Him and his missus must get invited to functions night after night and they probably take a doggy bag home with them for the kids Laugh

The kids will go to breakfast club and the nanny will probably take them for a maccies every day Laugh
By:
Facts
When: 20 May 14 22:07
I eat well, and spend between £40 and £50 a week on food and other household needs.
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 20 May 14 22:12
blimey I had better tell the wife she is overspending
By:
brendanuk1
When: 20 May 14 22:18
100 is apparently average for family of 4, but guess thats not london average
By:
jabmast
When: 20 May 14 22:19
Love the reference to Melrose and Mortgage! Food tastes good there mind. £80, pah.
By:
toffee87
When: 20 May 14 22:23
100 is apparently average for family of 4, but guess thats not london average

it depends whether people are including toilet roll, washing powder, bathroom cleaners, shampoos, bin bags, kitchen roll etc - its a lot more than a ton a week for a family of 4 - some will spend that just on ale !
By:
Crisp77
When: 20 May 14 22:31
This reminds me of a tea towel slogan I once saw.

A man who cannot easily recall his average weekly shopping expenditure will never be prime minister.
By:
Howdi
When: 20 May 14 22:47
if milliband ever becomes pm I'm off so far out of his depth it hurts.
By:
Howdi
When: 20 May 14 22:47
cost of living crisis the only thing that comes from his trap....yes ed and you contributed to it.
By:
call me a taxi
When: 20 May 14 22:58
Food is no dearer in London than elsewhere.
It's rent and mortgages that are the real expense of life in London.
By:
Howdi
When: 20 May 14 22:59
really taxi?
By:
alleged22
When: 20 May 14 23:02
and the beer taxi
By:
spellingandgrammarchecker
When: 20 May 14 23:09
How can a family of four have a decent standard of living on £100 a week for shopping?
By:
call me a taxi
When: 20 May 14 23:19
Howdi
20 May 14 22:59   
really taxi?


Mrs CMAT reckons a lot of food items are cheaper in London as competition is higher with so many shops and supermarkets.

Fuel wise - where we live it's 10 miles to the nearest supermarket and the rest of the shops and bank. When she goes shopping she tries to get everything on the same day to save on petrol.       

A trip to the doctors is a short walk in London. It's 7 miles here, and in the opposite direction to the shops. The nearest hospital is 5 miles past the doctors.

And unlike the lying woman on the 'car dragged a child 120 feet' thread, there is no bus service here at all. If you have no car, you don't get anywhere, unless you cycle or go by taxi.
By:
Zazu
When: 21 May 14 01:11
spellingandgrammarchecker Joined: 20 Dec 10
Replies: 545 20 May 14 23:09   
How can a family of four have a decent standard of living on £100 a week for shopping?


If you're frugal it's easy

We live in a country where you can get 3kg of pasta for £3
http://www.tesco.com/groceries/Product/Details/?id=255343036

and 4 pints of milk for a £1


Shocked
By:
toffee87
When: 21 May 14 08:19
who wants a bowl of plain pasta every night ?

Tonight for instance we'll have a chicken curry
£4 for chicken breasts (price has come down a lot recently as well)
£1 korma sauce
50p worth of frozen peas
50p worth of rice
£1 garlic bread
£1 glass of fresh orange
£1 desert

£9 for a decent meal for 5 people.

Then there are additional costs, cooking oil, garlic, washing up liquid - not much change out of a tenner for one meal

That may be a more expensive meal but we do try and have one good evening meal a day and why shouldn't we ?

Add in snacks, breakfast, lunches at weekend, and all the other non food items then it really does add up
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 21 May 14 08:27
Call Me A Taxi is correct. The cost of living crisis is entirely down to the cost of property. Groceries and energy are dirt cheap in comparison to wages when I was growing up in the 1960s.

But no politician will do anything about the cost of property, except try to make it dearer, as the Tories have with Help To Buy 1, Help To Buy 2, Funding For Lending, Quantitative Easing and 0.5% base rates. This is partly because most politicians, including the party leaders, are also landlords; and partly because the electorate is full of twerps who think a 200% increase in the cost of property makes them richer rather than poorer.
By:
toffee87
When: 21 May 14 08:59
The cost of living crisis is entirely down to the cost of property. Groceries and energy are dirt cheap in comparison to wages when I was growing up in the 1960s.

I completely disagree

When I bought my 1st house 20 years ago my major outgoing was the mortgage. Gas and electricity were almost insignificant as well as food expenses

Now I spend twice as much on food as I do on my mortgage despite having a mortgage 5 times bigger than 20 years ago. My expenditure on council tax and gas/electric is more than my mortgage. 10 years ago I would drive 50 miles to play a game of footy, now I don't like driving 5 miles as the cost of petrol is disgraceful. Before being made redundant 20% of my wage was spent on petrol driving 300 miles to and from work each month. What I now get from JSA and working tax credit hardly leaves me worse off each month
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