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16 May 14
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I got electoral leaflets through the door yesterday from both the BNP & Ukip delivered by the Royal Mail.
O my god! That puts Her Majesty's stamp of approval on fascist propoganda!
Think now it is a private company it should be made to drop the “Royal” and perhaps replace it with
“Money Grabbing”.
Anyway, Nick Griffin says Nigel Farage has exposed himself and UKip.
Griffin reports that Farage stood up in the Euro Parliament and said-
“UKip is NOT against Immigration.
UKip WELCOME Immigration.
UKip WANT Immigration.”
Sensible enough you may think as immigration is vital to our economy.
Griffin however also says-
“The BBC talked up UKip as 'anti-immigration' because they're terrified of you voting BNP. But the truth is that UKip support immigration especially Muslim Immigration.”
“Watch Farage expose UKip agenda.” Www.bnp.org.uk/ukip-exposed.
Farage has moved the goalposts recently claiming UKip want a non discriminatory immigration system
that is a level playing field for the whole world. A points based permit system. This of course would result in far fewer from the EU and far more from outside.
Of course Farage's revelations will come as music to the ears of Al-Qaeda and their offspring orgs Al-Shebaab and Boco Haram. Shouldn't be too difficult for them to provide the documentation to get their terrorists into the UK as plumbers, electricians, and err chemistry graduates, no doubt some will be qualified pilots.
Least with immigrants from the EU we know they share our Christian culture.
Farage say's 50,000 immigrants a year is acceptable. Of course if only one in every 1000 is an Islamic extremist that he wants Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, Sudan, & Nigeria given a fair crack at the whip and as much right as EU citizens to come here, that is 50 terrorists a year entering the UK.
Nice one Nigel.
O my god! That puts Her Majesty's stamp of approval on fascist propoganda!
Think now it is a private company it should be made to drop the “Royal” and perhaps replace it with
“Money Grabbing”.
Anyway, Nick Griffin says Nigel Farage has exposed himself and UKip.
Griffin reports that Farage stood up in the Euro Parliament and said-
“UKip is NOT against Immigration.
UKip WELCOME Immigration.
UKip WANT Immigration.”
Sensible enough you may think as immigration is vital to our economy.
Griffin however also says-
“The BBC talked up UKip as 'anti-immigration' because they're terrified of you voting BNP. But the truth is that UKip support immigration especially Muslim Immigration.”
“Watch Farage expose UKip agenda.” Www.bnp.org.uk/ukip-exposed.
Farage has moved the goalposts recently claiming UKip want a non discriminatory immigration system
that is a level playing field for the whole world. A points based permit system. This of course would result in far fewer from the EU and far more from outside.
Of course Farage's revelations will come as music to the ears of Al-Qaeda and their offspring orgs Al-Shebaab and Boco Haram. Shouldn't be too difficult for them to provide the documentation to get their terrorists into the UK as plumbers, electricians, and err chemistry graduates, no doubt some will be qualified pilots.
Least with immigrants from the EU we know they share our Christian culture.
Farage say's 50,000 immigrants a year is acceptable. Of course if only one in every 1000 is an Islamic extremist that he wants Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, Sudan, & Nigeria given a fair crack at the whip and as much right as EU citizens to come here, that is 50 terrorists a year entering the UK.
Nice one Nigel.
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Don't you just love it when fascists bitch fight?
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Who is your opponent this time Mad Lad? Anything older than a ten year old girl and I'll be going odds on that they whip you good sucker.
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Opponents?
They daren't take me on! Far easier to press the report button en masse and remove truths that are too unpalatable. Like they did with my post about the Ukip gal who resigned calling the party racist. Like you did Larry, with many of Mene and my posts on the Politics and finally with Mene himself. Too hot to handle Larry?  |
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So in your opinion do UKIP want immigration or not?
Because if you're slating the BNP you seem to suggest UKIP do want immigration If you're slating UKIP you seem to be suggesting they don't. I'm pretty clear they want controlled immigration based on a points system, but what do you think? |
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'propAganda' - hth.
Fascist propaganda is good imo. |
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The rank and file UKippers don't want any immigration, many of them ex-BNP, they simply don't like foreigners.
Farage tries to dress it up for electoral purposes, but as Griffin says by claiming he wants a level playing field for all countries of the world that would inevitably increase Al-Qaeda's prospects of getting terrorists into the UK. |
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So let me make sure I'm crystal clear here.
If someone wants to ban all immigration, faced with a choice between UKIP or the BNP, who do they vote for? |
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....or do they join UKIP and try to move it away from its stated policy to a 'ban all immigrants' policy or worse still, 'send 'them' all back'?
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Only I would argue that UKIP has got the traction it has precisely because it eschews the odious 'blood and soil' nationalism of the likes of the BNP and appeals much more to a 'Civic' sense of nationalism
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"If someone wants to ban all immigration, faced with a choice between UKIP or the BNP, who do they vote for?"
Pretty obvious! If they were the only choice for government I'd be too busy preparing to flee the country! |
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Well I'd have said it was obvious too - you vote for the party wanting to ban all immigration but you assert earlier 'The rank and file UKippers don't want any immigration', hence my request for clarification.
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No if I wanted no immigration I'd vote UKip.
Knowing the BNP have no hope and that if UKip are elected by softening the rhetoric they can achieve exactly the same policy anyway simply by making the points system so stringent nobody qualifies...except for rich banksters, oligarcs and Saudi Princes perhaps. |
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Ah!
I see. |
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"The rank and file UKippers don't want any immigration, many of them ex-BNP"
do we know how many is "many" because that does imply a large amount? |
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do we know how many is "many" because that does imply a large amount?
Might it be a similar number to those traditional, working class Labour voters who don't want any immigration? |
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having been told how racist it is to bring up the subject and it wasn't an issue with the electorate,
we are now finding it is THE major issue ha ha!!! |
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northernlad will vote tory.
certainty. |