Greggs the bakers selling Halal meat

Not going down well. I fortunately don't eat their stuff.


Lynn Winterburn lol Anat . Greggs - please could you ask your top people to get around a table and stand up for your customers - Halal meat is sick and barbaric, slaughtered according to strict Sharia. Don't pull the wool over our eyes about "animal welfare". You don't have any right to make that platitude until you STOP selling it! make us proud and do the right thing
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Karen Stintonposted to‎Greggs The Bakers
12 May
I've just found out today that gregs bakery sells halal meat in their products but doesn't tell its customers! This is appaling behaviour as we are not given the choice to not eat halal food. We are being duped and lied to by these companies. I for one will not be shopping at Greg's any more. Shame on you!

It appears that Halal slaughterhouses are classed as charities and therefore don't have to pay tax, also, because of their religious beliefs, a portion of their profits apparently go to support the Muslim brotherhood. This has got to stop!

Kevin Smoothcharva Boddyposted to‎Greggs The Bakers
12 May
So is it true that you's are using halal meat in your stores without informing the customers?? If so this is so wrong because I myself refuse to eat halal meat because of the barbaric way the animals are killed and if you's are doing this without proper labelling don't you think this is wrong as this isn't a Islamic country?? Think its about time you let the British people know exactly what meat you are using instead of forcing people to eat halal meat who wont eat it It's called freedom of choice just like u are giving the islamics the choice or don't the British people's choices matter

you get the idea.

I don't know these people. Do you? I don't know where they got their information or opinions from. I don't know if their info is correct and, whether or not, their information is correct.
Have you verified any of this?

all verified

as mad!!!

yeh, they've admitted it.

On Facebook.

That would explain why I haven't seen it!

I don't go on there either but my mole informed me.

Nobody gives a t***!

And if people are so concerned with animal welfare stop eating them in the first place.
Then we wont have to KILL them.

note:
A scientific study in Germany some years ago found that the Halal method is more humane than the alternative method and even without stunning.

yeh, of course it is. Muppet.

I am all for people being given full information as to the method of killing. Bet this lot eat supermarket chicken!

"Certainly madam, we have Halal (pre-stunned or the organic stunning-free version, we have kosher (post throat cut stunning only), or we have our standard electrocuted or just plain gassed versions. Which would madam like?

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Well quite Blackbarn.

Anyway the purpose of this thread is just to inform, and people can make their own mind up.

Scientifically PROVEN!

Insist on Halal non stunned - the most humane method, or better still don't eat animals.

One needs to be a bit careful here. Certainly I do!
The first reference mentions that they are slaughtered to strict sharia codes. From what I think I know, that would mean that the animal is not stunned prior to slaughter.
It seems that perhaps all halal meat might not be slaughtered in this manner. Some of it may be stunned first.
Obviously, I have no personal knowledge of the facts of the matter, but it cannot be very difficult to fasten a heart-rate monitor onto various beasts and get some proper data regarding which is the most/least stressful to the animal.
At least then people could make statements based on FACT, rather than feeling.

northern lad is partly right, there is some scientific evidence that supports the halal method but equally there is other science that "proves" that without stunning it is cruel - and it is this evidence that has led many European countries to ban "ritual slaughter" without stunning. No one, let alone northernlad can be absolutely certain one way or another.

For me, I have no problem with halal meat stunned or otherwise. I would however support peoples right to know, hence my tongue in cheek post below.

I think my heart-rate monitor idea should be able to prove the amount of stress that the animal experiences. Throw in an adrenalin test and that should cover it nicely. Let's have it proved, one way or the other!

I am SO frustrated!
We don't have any Greggs (or KFC, or SUBWAY) here that I can avoid. GRRRR!

I am SO frustrated!
We don't have any Greggs (or KFC, or SUBWAY) here that I can avoid. GRRRR!

Naydam, the last thing superstitious (read religious) people want is incontrovertible proof that something does/doesn't exist, is good/bad, etc etc.
They (and that's any religion in general) want to hang on to their medieval practices (ways of dressing, what foods to eat, etc etc).
The world is no longer flat, but they still don't get it; some think the world is only 6,000 years old; some think that "artificial" (what does that mean) birth control is wrong, and so on and on and on.
So applying logic and science is not welcome ... heart rate monitors?? Adrenalin testing??
Whatever next?

I suppose 'Next' would be a series of tick-box questions.
1. On a scale of one to ten, with 1 being totally chilled and 10 being absolutely terrified...How do you feel?
2. On a scale of one to ten, with 1 being totally painless and 10 being the worst pain you've ever known...How much did it hurt?

Obviously question 2 will require some further scientific development.

are these test carried out by the same people
that said red wine was good for you
then a few years later its bad for you
then good and in ten years time will be telling us
that we should all in fact smoke 5 cigs a day
to stop certain illnesses?.ie index finger diarrhea.
Maybe i can get funding from the Gov to do a 20 year study
on the change in shape and size of female breast's.

The tests will be carried out by scientific personnel. They will be conducted under strictly controlled, previously agreed, conditions to ensure a lack of bias. The results will then be made available to the public. The public can then form their own conclusions as to which method they will subscribe to.
The opinion of others, whether 'professional' or not, is not required.
Just the facts. Only the facts. Nothing more and nothing less.

Maybe they will get with the times soon , start selling HOT Pasties & also introduce their New QUORN Range

just googled 'greggs halal' and it brought up loads of threads of muslims complaining there is no halal there , and just one item saying it is halal : this very thread