that party political broadcast by the BNP ......

Terrible marketing department. I always wonder why they don't sponsor Wimbledon instead.

why is there never a party that likes immigration? or anything really. i cant remember any party ever saying they like anything, just moaning about what they dont like. how did politics get so fecking miserable? i like cake. if a party said theyd give free cake, id vote for em.

easier to knock down than to build. I saw a Labour party broadcast last week and it was 5 minutes of mocking Cameron/Clegg, not once did they mention a single policy of their own.

Think the Liberals are fairly tolerant of our open door policy bob

Didn't see it but Nick Griffin has just been on Radio 5L.

They must have lost a lot of their mainstream-type supporters to UKIP. The more right-leaning probably find the BNP too moderate

Burton-Brewers
     13 May 14 20:48

easier to knock down than to build. I saw a Labour party broadcast last week and it was 5 minutes of mocking Cameron/Clegg, not once did they mention a single policy of their own.


I saw that and as someone with natural left-leaning sympathies, I was absolutely disgusted by it. Negative. Smearing. Childish.

If that's the way the cretin Milliband wants to take the party, after cutting off it's finance and historical links with the Unions, he can go fk himself.

democracy is a good thing, but only up to a point

There is no conceivable reason why working class people,
like sideshowbob should be allowed to vote.

At first i thought Labours PPB was a spoof, i watched in on Youtube. Is it the one with Clegg as the incredible shrinking man?

So it`s not a spoof?

I don't usually bother but I emailed them about it, I had this response today


Good morning,

Thank you for your email regarding Labour’s election broadcast, ‘The Un-credible Shrinking Man’.

The film is a light-hearted depiction of a serious point: that on policy after policy, Nick Clegg and the Liberal Democrats have gone along with an out-of-touch Tory Party which only stands up for a privileged few. This broadcast points out that the Tories and Lib Dems are making the wrong choices, failing to stand up for hardworking people suffering from the cost of living crisis.

With kind regards,

On behalf of the Labour Party

P.S. If you would like to play a part in shaping Labour’s policy programme, you can do so through Your Britain, our online home of ideas and policy development. We would welcome your contribution.

Sadly its following the lead set by the US over many decades.

Research shows that the best and most effective party political message is a demolition job on your opponent.

Funny though isn't it , the BNP once did a secret survey whereby they knocked on peoples doors and asked them if they wouldn't mind answering a few questions on there political and views about life in general.

At the end when the people who said yes had given there answers they said 'Are you aware that the answers youve given are the same polices that the BNP are fighting for?'
Without question everyone suddenly said no way , they wouldn't vote for them etc etc

Two things spring to mind.

1) Peter in the garden of Gethsemane

2) What a wonderful effort to smear someones name the major parties have done over the last hundred years to the extent that even though you agree with them , you've been told so many times not to vote for , not to like , even not to listen to parties like them.

The saddest part of all this is the fact the same smear campaign by the media in cahoots with the conglomerates is now doing the same to UKIP , whose only 'crime' I can see is wanting us out of the EU (a policy agreed on by the majority) and an end to mass immigration to this country which any idiot should be able to see simply can not sustain via housing, schooling , medical and social security the vast numbers who come in every year.


Go down any pub and all you will hear is 'Need to do something about immigration' 'Are you voting UKIP then?' 'Nah Labour/Tory me'

God give me strength.

UKIP is a one man band though Priest, deep down the majority of people in this country want controlled immigration. Also plenty of us have tribalist lefty family members and pals barking that UKIP are racists.

Yet Labours policy is to limit non-EU immigration due to the open door in the EU. Africans and Asians will be limited.
How can a points system for ALL immigrants which is suggested by UKIP be deemed racist?

And how many of these tribal lefties are foaming at the mouth when they visit Australia.

Remember that vote to change the voting system to proportional representation? At least with PR, these smaller parties are able to influence policy by acquiring seats through the popular vote.

It would've made sense to go with PR. That way UKIP, the Green Party and any other "minority" party that has a subset of policies they'd like to see, get to influence policy.

I voted yes for PR...disappointed it was rejected...people seem happy with our prehistoric two party system

I thought it would have given us more democracy

I think a lot of people vote out of fear

they vote to keep either the Tories or Labour out

I would like to see referendums on all important issues..we have the internet now

Let us find out what the silent majority think, not just have to listen to gobby minorities all the time

by responding to these people, our policies are being driven by 'fruit cakes'

I believe we will return to Dictatorship one day

It will be only way anyone will be able to sort this country out

Someone will say, this is the way it is, end of, you do not like it..tough

we just have to hope it is a benevolent one

Logan`s Run?

Logan`s Run?

The most important function of government, is that it gives order and to society

so we either have to have direct democracy, or none at all, in my opinion

If democracy fails, societies always to Dictatorships, otherwise you have chaos

you seem to like the idea of us all dying at 30 Angel

still being young was the best time of my life back in 60/70's....so you may be right

I think we could stretch the Logans run idea to 40 myself

after that life is all about being middle aged, settling down, responsibility, conforming

basically it is no longer worth living

and being old ain't a lot of good, since we are feck all good for anything

so I will do a compromise Angel, 35

I believe we will return to Dictatorship one day

It will be only way anyone will be able to sort this country out

Someone will say, this is the way it is, end of, you do not like it..tough

we just have to hope it is a benevolent one

How would that happen? Would a party or organisation seize power? Or would a democratically elected party announce that there will be no more elections and you have to do as we say?

It will come from the army, that is how it usually happens

but it does matter...you only need someone with popular support

that is what Hitler did, immediately he came to power, he abolished elections

We have not reached that stage yet

but if we did, that will happen, look at history

It will start off with something like the EU.

Where individual nations hold their own General Elections for a party representation but then central EU parliament will gradually erode sovereign rights from those individual nations until the point of total centralised control from the EU parliament.

Hold on a minute!...it`s already started!

Lads wake up and smell the coffee we haven't lived in a democracy for years.

What are your options? Libs Labs Cons, same ****, different shade of turd.

true Fred

that is what worries me......where is the democracy I this

I still doubt we will live..Milliband may have a point, limit non EU immigration, but not EU immigration

there is more chance of them going back, but I still think we must start watching our population...a bit

nothing expands forever...except the Universe I believe...if our, or the whole world economy collapses

we would be endangering ourselves

leave not live

We must looking at some degree of self sufficiency

so if necessary we may need to grow all our food and supply all our own energy

why I say move to renewables faster....check our population levels

we may never be able to do this completely, but we must be prepared for anything...so bear it in mind

As a supporter of Malthus' theories I'm all for culling criminals and undesirables,three generational families living on benefits etc as a sensible way of controlling the population however no political party has the balls to even acknowledge population growth is a real problem which unless it is brought under control could result in the demise of the human race.In the meantime suppose i'll vote for Cameron who whilst a weak leader is a decent man ...the alternative of Milliband just doesn't bear thinking about.

The true effect of exponential growth of the human race is cataclysmic.

God is trying his best to control matters by creating obesely unattractive women and giving men free porn, but he needs to try harder.

Angel..

but very true...our technology gives us two options

we either make a better world for ourselves, or a worse

we need less people not more, because we have computers, 200 years maybe robots, so we just need to make the world sustainable

and not destroy ourselves...it is our choice

I am also against the idea of universal values, let countries decide for themselves, it benefits us , it offers variety

to change us into one amorphous blob endangers us,

exponential growth of the human race that is so frightening Angel

we can bear a slight inflation if we get down to sustainable levels

it will make the world a better place for everyone living in it

and we must never lose our variety, just war, if we can???

Ironically UKIP who think our population could get out of control with too much immigration (and it's probably their only policy that I have even an ounce of sympathy with), also hate homosexuals, who by their very nature help to keep the population down

you have a dog cdog

I don't hate homosexuals, just wish they would keep to their own world, so no gay marriage

marriage is in the heterosexual world

anyway they can use things like artificial insemination, so it does not help population control

point

You see by having gay marriage, people are trying to turn us into one amorphous blob, not good in my opinion

Let us have separate worlds, toleration a must, no discrimination...just a boundary so everybody knows where they are

One of the problems with the EU is they keep forcing their values on us is it not, people object to this

Europe is not one country, just a common trading area, or so it should be,

Ww may wish to co operate in technology, agricultural issues, etc......but that is all