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Report call me a taxi • May 12, 2014 7:30 PM BST
They also dislike blatant liars, like you and the fake major menelaus
Report akabula • May 12, 2014 7:51 PM BST
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Report northernlad5 • May 12, 2014 8:05 PM BST
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Report caleyjags • May 12, 2014 8:18 PM BST
call me a taxi   






  12 May 14 19:30 
Joined:   02 Oct 03      | Topic/replies: 1,275  | Blogger: call me a taxi's blog   



They also dislike blatant liars



There goes the crux of the matter, the deception and moral corruptness of the LibLabCon members and their inability to use fairness and honesty in their dealings. The people have had enough of them. That's from the experience of someone married to a non-EU citizen that hates racists but is voting UKIP. Work that one out NorthernLad!
Report rogerthebutler • May 12, 2014 8:31 PM BST

Still grinning!


Yeah - The Variety Club Sunshine Bus will be along to collect you in a minute.

Every day's a bonus eh?
Report rogerthebutler • May 12, 2014 8:37 PM BST
....or indeed, jump on Nigel Farage's honourable member for Pants
Report erse2 • May 12, 2014 8:52 PM BST
>" your to thick"

LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh

seriously, anyone who continually fails to use "your" and "you're" properly that's calling someone thick voids their entire argument.

quit hoarding threads with your 1-dimensional semi-retarded cauldron of pish. clearly someone in the politics forum suggested you have some socialist values and that's why you're banging on about them all the time... before then you were fine with no political affiliation and your head firmly up your arse.
Report call me a taxi • May 12, 2014 9:04 PM BST
northernlad5     12 May 14 20:35 
Taking foreign nationals when there are plenty of good women in this country who they have deprived of wifedom and never even asked to jump on the 'gravy train'!


^^^ From the 'man' who has no wife, because she threw him out in 1996 when he was abducted by aliens (I kid you not fellow chit chatters, the full story has its own thread, by the nutjob himself, on the politics forum)

From the 'man' whose daughter has disowned him because he's a sandwich short of a picnic.

From the 'man' whose only ally on here was Menelaus, a 'man' who claimed to be a Major in the army (with fake photos and medals) who was also a friend of Stephen Hawking, and a Tornado jet pilot, and feck knows how much other Walter Mitty crap.

And he thinks he's normal, what a clown.
Report Angel Gabrial • May 12, 2014 9:04 PM BST
Actually it`s "you`re too thick"Plain
Report erse2 • May 12, 2014 9:11 PM BST
call me a taxi you seem a little too upset about northernlad. I mean, I find him tedious but shirley you're getting a little too close up and personal there.

stick to calling him a nutjob, much more palatable.
Report rogerthebutler • May 12, 2014 9:13 PM BST
What's black and constantly abused by northern lad in this forum?

His spelling.

Oh how could you think anything else you bunch of racists!!? Although that a thinly-veiled homosexual slur back there may be a sign the 'right-on' mask is slipping.

Two more pages of this and he'll be like a Jim Davidson gig.
Report call me a taxi • May 12, 2014 9:21 PM BST
erse2     12 May 14 21:11 
call me a taxi you seem a little too upset about northernlad. I mean, I find him tedious but shirley you're getting a little too close up and personal there.

stick to calling him a nutjob, much more palatable


1. Go to the politics forum.
2, Try to find one thread where the nutter and his moronic accomplice, the fake major, are not throwing insults at everybody like confetti at a wedding. 
3. Him and his 'mate', when their bait doesn't work, have stooped low enough to insult EOs wife, who is disabled.
4. They started to throw insults long before anybody else.
Report Angel Gabrial • May 12, 2014 9:25 PM BST
Tribalists are often on the run from themselves.

NLad and Melly are a pair of fascists, claiming to be the opposite.
Report call me a taxi • May 12, 2014 9:29 PM BST
This is the northernlads own thread.

http://community.betfair.com/politics/go/thread/view/94150/29268715/the-guardians-extra-terrestrial-intervention-on-earth-1947-1997


This is the exposure of his only ally on here, the fake Major.

http://community.betfair.com/politics/go/thread/view/94150/30159455/the-face-of-a-lunatic

Read them, or skim through them.

If you can then tell me that you honestly believe that they are both  normal, I'll streak down Oxford Street with a daffodil wedged up my ringpiece.
Report erse2 • May 12, 2014 9:31 PM BST
I've read the castor and pollux 'box set' and read enough, tbf Grin
Report rogerthebutler • May 12, 2014 9:32 PM BST
Well it's a good job none of us take anything or anyone in here seriously, isn't it?
Report erse2 • May 12, 2014 9:34 PM BST
Laugh wishful thinking
Report rogerthebutler • May 12, 2014 9:39 PM BST
Aw cmon!

It's a bunch of ill-conceived, badly-expressed, bogus 'non-reality' from a bunch of cnts with a load of time to fill.

Oh no, wait, that's Sky News.....
Report erse2 • May 12, 2014 9:44 PM BST
but... but...

fair enough.

Seems like politics is getting more interesting over there, or will be if there's a chance of Scottish independence.
Report Shab • May 12, 2014 9:54 PM BST
The second and third posts on this thread:

bigmo • May 10, 2014 2:08 PM BST
I guess as long as it takes people who oppose his views to stop the name calling and debate in a serious manner the problems he's highlighting.

Shab • May 10, 2014 4:26 PM BST
You would think that by now that would have happened, but it is becoming increasingly obvious that they cannot win the political debate.


NL has proved my point to a tee. Name calling galore, but not one political argument. QED.
Report erse2 • May 12, 2014 10:19 PM BST
You seem to overlook the fact numerous people think you're an idiot and have very little to contribute to the/any discussion, regardless of your spelling.

I've never saw you make anyone "look like an idiot" and there's rich pickings. It seems like you just want to be seen as some political aficionado but it's really just you spouting your extremist ideas with a semi-mongoloid attempt at subversion thrown in.

TBF it's getting boring seeing you trash perfectly reasonable threads with what is essentially attention seeking.
Report erse2 • May 12, 2014 10:25 PM BST
fharting dhribble
Report moisok • May 12, 2014 10:47 PM BST
you are the big hypo  northernliar
you say you are a marxist but support a labourlite not socialist party that implements tory policies
they even supported taking war to your islamic friends!!!
Report moisok • May 12, 2014 10:49 PM BST
clair short excepted - one with some convictions
a bit like the sitting left wing mp i was supporting - (you said i supported thatcher then!!)
you are completely bizzare - I am also waiting for your response to the other two lies you said about me working for unicef and the army

how many more lies and smears have you used

the answer to that is many!!!
Report northernlad5 • May 12, 2014 10:56 PM BST
Crazy
Report erse2 • May 12, 2014 11:36 PM BST
northernlad, im a brit and i don't consider everything i say to be taken seriously. you however, are like an 8 year old kid who got a propaganda machine for christmas.

if you don't like toilet humour fair enough. i consider it a par for the course here. there are plenty intelligent folk who see it for what it is, little more than nothing.

i see you're affiliating yourself with labour... Laugh seriously, you haven't a fecking clue about who, what and why. i think i'm going to start reporting your propaganda because this is meant to be a light hearted forum, not for some moronic muslim who thinks he can subvert the country via it's gambling forums Love
Report erse2 • May 12, 2014 11:37 PM BST
-'

how about you feck off to the politics forum, if you get a brain and can begin to reason with other people, you're welcome back here.
Report moisok • May 12, 2014 11:51 PM BST
but it is only very very recently he has started to infest the chit chat forum

don't you recognise a labour stooge

and he says he is a marxist and says he supports labour

and note that he never replies to this

except with abuse
Report northernlad5 • May 13, 2014 12:18 AM BST
Nobody like's toilet humour erse, its just for a while some people thought it was outrageous and thus funny.
But you can only take "fart, dribble dribble" so far before even those into it get bored!

So I don't have a clue about the Labour party? says someone who's only link to Britain is getting a Mounties boot up his arse. Your only other link to Britain is that old warn out snap your mother had of King George and Queen Elizabeth visiting.

Your going to start reporting my propaganda LaughLaughLaugh
Its too political & too serious?

Seems I'm the only one having a laugh!

So North Korea's comments on Obama isn't political and we can put that down as a laugh.
Calling a black man a monkey?
Suppose you can if it suits your racist agenda.
Report erse2 • May 13, 2014 1:07 AM BST
yawn. passing off your wee hate speeches as a laugh. what a life, writing pages and pages of semi-coherent badly spelled nonsense to people who'd never agree with you in a month of sundays, genuinely.

muppet Laugh
Report call me a taxi • May 13, 2014 12:00 PM BST
Him and his mate, the fake major, ruined the poltiics forum by driving most people away.
Anybody who stayed is immediately labelled 'Larry' becuae nobody agrees with the pair of idiots.
You can see how many have gone by the fact that the 6th thread down hasn't been posted on for 2 days.
Now he is here trying to do the same, and before long the other loon will follow him over here, no doubt after he runs out of people to insult over there.
Report rogerthebutler • May 13, 2014 12:01 PM BST
'Larry'?

His 'Lear' at Stratford in '52 bought tears to my eyes.
Report call me a taxi • May 13, 2014 12:02 PM BST
Lol... there are probably a few things that have brought tears to Larrys eyes.
Report Facts • May 14, 2014 8:15 AM BST
Ethnic rising star within the UKIP part has quit the party, because she states the party is racist !

Of course it is. Look at the bill posters !

Farage  insidiously creating a populist racist programme.
Report Angel Gabrial • May 14, 2014 8:37 AM BST
You are talking about Sanya-Jeet Thandi.

She appeared on Channel 4 News this week to defend her membership but has now quit the party.

Perfect timing for a mole to come forward. She had previously said that Godfrey Bloom was “cute and so kind and hilarious, he just says things for the reaction. Lovely guy but a bit misunderstood".

Was she aware of Ukip`s policies when she joined 3 years ago?

In your own words Facts....

WALOFS
Report Facts • May 14, 2014 8:43 AM BST
Yep. She uses the word ' terrifying ' . She's right.


And apart from being racist, why on earth would you vote for a part that wants to reduce the top end tax rate. Widening the gap even more of the have and have nots. Helping the fat cats and tax avoidance merchants who are costing this country £billions. But ignoring that, and blaming instead immigrants ! Unbelievable.
Report Angel Gabrial • May 14, 2014 8:48 AM BST
Labour`s policy is too limit non-EU immigration due to the open door policy from the EU.

This prevents Asians and Africans having the same free movement into the UK as members of the EU.

Now then, when playing the race card against wanting to control immigration from Polish, Hungarian, Latvian, Bulgarian, Romanian`s etc. Where is the racism?

Yet Asians and Africans will be limited under the Labour`s pro EU policy in favour of the predominately WHITE EU migrant.

Where is the real race card being played here?
Report Angel Gabrial • May 14, 2014 8:51 AM BST
Facts i am not supportive of Ukip at all, but the EU subject needs to open up. Also i understand the media propaganda being played here.

Interesting that the Westminster cartel have all linked arms to throw mud at Ukip without rational debate. This is where people should be focusing their frustration.
Report Facts • May 14, 2014 4:38 PM BST
People should be focussing all of their frustration on this divisive Tory government - who have turned their backs on the poorest in our society whilst making damned sure that the richest get even richer. A government that quite happily removes services and support from the less fortunate, who will watch as working people are forced to go to food banks. Will happily stand by and observe families making the daily choice of whether to eat or heat their homes. Whilst at the same time , encourage banks to pay £ millions in bonus payments, and turn a blind eye to the companies and fat cats who evade paying tax worth £billions. Then have the audacity to say Councils have to cut services to help,the financial services. And point the finger at people on benefits and immigrants as the reason why the country is in financial dire straits.

Get this capitalist filth out of government. And don't even bother looking to Farage  - he wants the richest to pay even less tax.!!
Report Facts • May 15, 2014 7:49 AM BST
A shocking revelation on the front page of the Daily Express today:"Migrants do take British jobs" it claims. An "official report now confirms what the Daily Express has said all along" apparently. In a commentary in the paper, we are told "it seems almost self-evident that a huge influx of migrant labour to any country would damage the job prospects of the native workforce". A victory for common sense then – keep immigrants out and reduce unemployment. Except that the report doesn't really say that at all – and even if it did, the effect is so weak as to be worth completely ignoring.
The Express is right – the report does say that some British workers may have been "displaced" by the effects of immigration. But the idea that immigration is responsible for high unemployment is ludicrous. Here's what the Migration Advisory Committee goes on to say:
But this possible displacement of British workers only holds for those migrants who have been here for under five years. Both EU and non-EU migrants who have been in the UK for over five years are not associated with displacement of British born workers. Between 1995 and 2010 employment of such working age migrants rose by approximately 2.1 million. The associated displacement of British born workers was, on our own calculations, around 160,000 of the additional 2.1 jobs held by migrants, or about 1 in 13.
So on average, it takes 13 immigrants to "displace" one British job – not exactly the "common sense" conclusion. Moreover, those immigrants who do "take" British jobs are temporary, non-EU workers – many are young Australians, Canadians and so on with working holiday visas, rather than Polish plumbers. It's an obvious point, but those immigration rights tend to be reciprocal so British workers have equal rights to work abroad. Blocking non-EU temporary workers probably wouldn't cut unemployment at all, since it would reduce options open for emigration to British workers. And at a rate of 13 jobs created for every one lost, that's an awful lot of tax revenue to forgo for the sake of one job.
The fact is, no matter what pressure groups like Migration Watch and newspapers like the Express like to assert, there is simply no economic case to be made against immigration. In fact, it's the very opposite: by widening our opportunities, the free movement of labour makes us on average, much wealthier and the world a more interesting, happier place. I would also add that even if we accept the curiously nationalist decision of the Migration Advisory Committee to only consider the welfare of existing residents, then a much better solution is to auction off work permits, instead of cutting the number.
Report Angel Gabrial • May 15, 2014 8:31 AM BST
New regulations need to be implemented regarding Recruitment Agencies if the open door policy continues. Advertising and registering for UK workers without preference for other EU nationalities.

There is an over supply of labour at the bottom end Facts and Recruitment Agencies are overflowing with surplus labour for low-skilled positions. Hours are being shared out amongst many rather than the UK worker being guaranteed full-time hours.

Something that the report does not mention, and of course if the working hours are not there for the low-skilled worker then they will be subsidised through working tax credits.

Miliband has touched on reigning in Recruitment Agencies, but i imagine overseeing any new regulations will turn into a shambles.
Report northernlad5 • May 15, 2014 11:54 AM BST
Too true Facts.
What is also ignored is that immigrants are statistically far more likely to start new businesses and employ people than their British counterparts.

I had three Kurdish workers back in 2008. Within 3 years they saved enough, clubbed together and started a completely different business. Last year they took over their main competitors. Then there are all those Asians who have bought into convenience store franchises employing lots of local young people and housewives.
There are the 100's of thousands of foreign owned restaurants- Italian, Indian, French, Thai etc. That employ and add greatly to the economy. I went for a meal to a Thai restaurant recently and was surprised to find all the bar staff and waiting staff were young Brits bar 3.

There is the Boston farmer who told Benjamin Zephaniah that he couldn't get local workers and even his own family weren't interested and would have had to close had it not been for EU immigrants.

That's why IMMIGRATION IS A NET FISCAL POSITIVE to the UK economy.

Tightened regulation of non EU applicants to the UK has seen numbers of fee paying students drop to a level that is damaging our Universities. It is foreign fee paying students who have been keeping the home 'pay when you get a job' students afloat.

Of course all this is ignored by the xenophobes.
Report Angel Gabrial • May 15, 2014 12:05 PM BST
MLad

Labour have it in their policy to tighten NON EU immigration due to the open door in the EU.

They realise you can`t have all doors open at the same time. Now then MLad how is this open door policy in the EU helping the African ans Asian when applying to come to the UK?

Tightened regulation (Also LABOURS policy)Cryof non EU applicants to the UK has seen numbers of fee paying students drop to a level that is damaging our Universities. It is foreign fee paying students who have been keeping the home 'pay when you get a job' students afloat.
Report northernlad5 • May 15, 2014 12:27 PM BST
Labour haven't announced their 2015 manifesto, in fact no party has.

What Labour spokes people say in the current xenophobic atmosphere whipped up by the Daily Hell, Express, Telegraph, Sun and UKip & the BNP. Is simply a way to placate the xenophobes, shut them up and kill the criticism.
Only strong union representation can protect workers interests and Labour should in that regard concentrate on reversing some of the Thatcher anti-union legislation of the 80's.

Every Scot, Welsh & Irishman has always had the right to come here and on your reckoning take English jobs. This would not be one of the worlds richest and developed nations had they not. Now there simply aren't enough and the introduction of free movement of labour throughout the EU is the new and logical step that has already been taken when Major CONSERVATIVE signed the Maastricht Treaty.
Report rogerthebutler • May 15, 2014 12:33 PM BST
Only strong union representation can protect workers interests and Labour should in that regard concentrate on reversing some of the Thatcher anti-union legislation of the 80's.

Agreed - but Miliband is hell bent on reducing Labour's historical links with the Unions.
Report call me a taxi • May 15, 2014 12:45 PM BST
northernlad5
15 May 14 11:54   
There is the Boston farmer who told Benjamin Zephaniah that he couldn't get local workers and even his own family weren't interested and would have had to close had it not been for EU immigrants.


Then there is the Cambridgeshire farmer
who was on the BBC programme which involved getting a group of unemployed people from Wisbech Jobcentre to go asparagus picking.

He moaned that he had to pay them minimum wage and that the eastern europeans worked harder.

What him and the BBC both failed to mention is that the asparagus picking 'season' is only a few weeks long, and after that, ALL his labour, eastern european and local, were back at the Jobcentre claiming JSA.

Why didn't the BBC ask him how he kept the farm going BEFORE the eastern europans got here.

And what the farmer, whose name was Victor, never disclosed, was that his farm had run perfectly for well over half a century with local labour.

But of course he couldn't say that.

In the days before minimum wage, he was paying them all the local labourers cheaply, cash in hand, and letting them go into town to sign on for their JSA.

If the locals weren't willing to work for crap wages and sign on for JSA, he would have had no farm to let the eastern europeans come and work on.
Report northernlad5 • May 15, 2014 1:14 PM BST
Usual fairy stories from Larry

"In the days before minimum wage, he was paying them all the local labourers cheaply, cash in hand, and letting them go into town to sign on for their JSA."

So you have evidence to support your claims that Victor was a criminal employer?

No you don't do you!

You just make thing up to suit your argument, which it doesn't anyway as the immigrants  were least saving the tax payer by not claiming JSA while working for Victor and 'on the books' receiving minimum wage. According to you that is.

Larry, maybe we should call this alias of yours "call me a fantasist"!
Report call me a taxi • May 15, 2014 1:32 PM BST
northernmoron

How could I make up the fact that his farm has been there for over 50 years?

How could I make up the fact that his farm worked well for over 50 years, manned by all local labour?

How could I make up the fact that his farm wouldn't be be there if it wasn't for the aforementioned local labour?

I'm not Larry, you're not sane.
Mind you, the fake major Menelaus, thinks that 'bbc's embarrassed dad' is also one of EOs aliases.

Don't you think it's hilarious that 'bbc's embarrassed dad' happens to be your alias?

Even your only mate on here has no idea what's going on between you.

What a pair of clowns you two are.
Report northernlad5 • May 15, 2014 1:40 PM BST
But you made up...

"But of course he couldn't say that.

In the days before minimum wage, he was paying them all the local labourers cheaply, cash in hand, and letting them go into town to sign on for their JSA."


If Victor didn't say that how could you possibly know?

And if your right you destroy your own argument as he's running the business legitimately now with registered immigrant workers and paying his tax's & VAT. Something you claim he was not doing before.

And stop going on about Larry I'm sick of hearing about you!
Report call me a taxi • May 15, 2014 1:46 PM BST
northernlad aka bbc'e embarrassed dad

seek psychiatric help.
Report northernlad5 • May 15, 2014 2:15 PM BST
Taken from the Politics Forum Larry.

Eeternaloptimist
Gnarley
chatlame
mickstick
paddletoe
Squeeze Firmly
Bentley Boy
Comrade Karla
Angel Gabrial
masher
Rogerthebutler
pumphol
Room 0182
call me a taxi
moist pants
mobo
jed.davison
vin2385
121.5
eerway
tommythejudge
Milwall 66
errytay
JASS
Janet Street Porter

Prove it Larry by posting mug shots of all your aliases above together with names and addresses.

Don't try to disguise yourself with a black wig, thick black rimmed glasses and a cigar like *Groucho Marx etc cos my PC has the latest iris recognition technology and will sus you out.
Report Angel Gabrial • May 15, 2014 2:24 PM BST
Labour haven't announced their 2015 manifesto

Labour will NOT win the General Election if they NOW back out of limiting immigration from NON EU Countries.

Are you suggesting Miliband has not been recommending this? I thought that you was a member of the Labour Party?

2. Options here MLad.

1)Labour would not limit Immigration from anywhere.( Tory majority in the 2015 GE )
2)Labour limit immigration from NON EU countries.

There is no 3rd option because you can not limit immigration from EU countries.

Miliband has been telling us that OPTION 2 is needed. So don`t tell lies about what will be in the manifesto.

You also know that whether or not Labour succeed in controlling immigration from outside the EU. What will be in the manifesto discriminates against NON EU people including the African and Asians.
Report northernlad5 • May 15, 2014 2:48 PM BST
I don't expect Labour to mention immigration from outside the EU in the manifesto.
The rules are already too tight as I explained in the case of students.
In government they will just ease the rules.

Cleggs pledge on tuition fees.
Camerons "no top down restructuring of the NHS".

Of course once elected-

"in the situation we now find ourselves those commitments are no longer an option."

As for this UKip crap about discriminating against non EU countries. Its a UNION.
Like the UK have  always allowed Scots, Welsh, Irish including the Republic to flood in without restriction but not the rest of the world so you could say that was discriminatory.
Report Angel Gabrial • May 15, 2014 3:10 PM BST
Wrong again.

Curbs on non-EU immigration will be a key priority for an incoming Labour government, Ed Miliband has told the BBC's Andrew Marr show.

The Labour leader outlined plans to reduce the number of low-skilled migrants coming to Britain.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24193771
Report northernlad5 • May 15, 2014 3:40 PM BST
Yes I'd probably tell Andrew Marr whatever he and his listeners want to hear a year before an election...its not like he's going to find you out!
Report Angel Gabrial • May 15, 2014 3:44 PM BST
Well you might as well forget the opinion polls then...because this is one of the key issues that is putting Labour ahead of the Tories.

Without some kind of immigration control promise Labour are toast.
Report northernlad5 • May 15, 2014 4:06 PM BST
I'd go as far as to say the number of immigrants slightly irritates many people but like EU membership they rank somewhere between 10th & 13th in peoples lists of concerns when it comes to deciding the next gov. The economy and the cost of living are always what concerns people most. If however you believe what assurances Miliband, Cameron or Clegg give about non EU immigration will make one iota of difference to the outcome then your dreaming.

Think about it! If it non EU immigration/EU immigration was an overriding concern UKip would not be presently forecast to win 0 seats in 2015.
Report Burton-Brewers • May 15, 2014 4:07 PM BST
they're toast anyway, gap down to 3 points and closing. By next May Conservatives will have a 5 point lead after a give away budget.
Report northernlad5 • May 15, 2014 4:09 PM BST
Well with working class traitors like you Angel etc supporting the Tory posh boys your probably right.
Report Angel Gabrial • May 15, 2014 5:57 PM BST
I thinkthat will find it is the Labour Party that are the traitors to the working class.

And now you are suggesting whatever Miliband tells us on the Andrew Marr show could be a pack of lies. Not the most most convincing argument from a member of the Labour Party.
Report moisok • May 15, 2014 6:20 PM BST
they are still flooding in

in their hundreds and thousands

4.5 million foreign employees

you couldn't make it up

northernliar desperately trying to cover up Labour's crude attempt to get a population that will vote for them!!

exposed!!!!

every job taken by a foreigner is one less opportunity for our young black, asian and white people.
Report moisok • May 15, 2014 6:23 PM BST
northernliar the supposed marxist who supports a non socialist labour party

I note he has never replied to this whenever I put it up.

Self proclaimed marxist pretend socialist owner(?) of a kebab shop!!??
Report Facts • May 15, 2014 7:09 PM BST
To repeat ( just for you moist) this time it might go in !

A shocking revelation on the front page of the Daily Express today:"Migrants do take British jobs" it claims. An "official report now confirms what the Daily Express has said all along" apparently. In a commentary in the paper, we are told "it seems almost self-evident that a huge influx of migrant labour to any country would damage the job prospects of the native workforce". A victory for common sense then – keep immigrants out and reduce unemployment. Except that the report doesn't really say that at all – and even if it did, the effect is so weak as to be worth completely ignoring.
The Express is right – the report does say that some British workers may have been "displaced" by the effects of immigration. But the idea that immigration is responsible for high unemployment is ludicrous. Here's what the Migration Advisory Committee goes on to say:
But this possible displacement of British workers only holds for those migrants who have been here for under five years. Both EU and non-EU migrants who have been in the UK for over five years are not associated with displacement of British born workers. Between 1995 and 2010 employment of such working age migrants rose by approximately 2.1 million. The associated displacement of British born workers was, on our own calculations, around 160,000 of the additional 2.1 jobs held by migrants, or about 1 in 13.
So on average, it takes 13 immigrants to "displace" one British job – not exactly the "common sense" conclusion. Moreover, those immigrants who do "take" British jobs are temporary, non-EU workers – many are young Australians, Canadians and so on with working holiday visas, rather than Polish plumbers. It's an obvious point, but those immigration rights tend to be reciprocal so British workers have equal rights to work abroad. Blocking non-EU temporary workers probably wouldn't cut unemployment at all, since it would reduce options open for emigration to British workers. And at a rate of 13 jobs created for every one lost, that's an awful lot of tax revenue to forgo for the sake of one job.
The fact is, no matter what pressure groups like Migration Watch and newspapers like the Express like to assert, there is simply no economic case to be made against immigration. In fact, it's the very opposite: by widening our opportunities, the free movement of labour makes us on average, much wealthier and the world a more interesting, happier place. I would also add that even if we accept the curiously nationalist decision of the Migration Advisory Committee to only consider the welfare of existing residents, then a much better solution is to auction off work permits, instead of cutting the number.
Report bix • May 15, 2014 7:21 PM BST
Too many people in this country for facilities.
Report moisok • May 15, 2014 7:27 PM BST
4.5 million foreign workers here

a massive increase in year by year immigration of 300,000

THESE ARE THE ONES WE KNOW ABOUT

go tell all that rubbish you spout 'facts' to the million young people on the dole

you have sold out to the capitalists and eussr  - your masters
Report moisok • May 15, 2014 7:31 PM BST
I struggle to comprehend how so called socialists like norternliar and 'facts' can defend what is happening as we are flooded by outsiders.  Talk about the betrayal of the working class.
Labour as sold its heart and soul to the capitalists.  Meanwhile the posh boys and the rich enjoy themselves in smashing the wage barrier DOWNWARDS!! 

This is what northernliar and 'facts' represent - rather odd isn't it - defending the influx of people to this country while undermining people who already live here and who seek jobs

every job taken by a foreigner is one less opportunity for our young black, asian and white people.
Report call me a taxi • May 15, 2014 9:48 PM BST
i prefer this post norhernmoron


justnow   
12 May 14 14:11
 
No, of course not, there are a few left posting on here who are not Larry, but there is NO DOUBT that you are Larry. There is also NO DOUBT that so are these characters:

Eeternaloptimist
Gnarley
chatlame
miskstick
paddletoe
Irish Celtic
masher
Room 0182
call me a taxi
mobo
jed.davison 
vin2385
121.5
eerway
tommythejudge
Milwall 66
errytay
JASS
Squeeze Firmly
drever
EMPIRE DAY
RickiBobby
History Maker
BARROWBOY
macarony
wildmanfromborneo
bbc's embarrassed dad
Q.O.F.E
Angel Gabrial


Oh dear, another own goal

no 'lizzybizzy' on the list.

I wonder why?

And for future reference: 'bbc's embarassed dad' is none other than your fellow lunatic, northernlad.

Seek psychiatric help.


A copy of 'just nows' post, that I copied.

Not your day is it northernlad aka 'bbc's embarrassed dad.'

[b]Your only ally on here is the fake major, and even he thinks you're EO as well.

You know what this means don't you...

YOUR BEST FRIEND IN THE WHOLE WORLD IS WRONG!!
Report Facts • May 16, 2014 4:06 AM BST
moisok     15 May 14 19:31 

'........I struggle to comprehend .......'




You make that very obvious
Report moisok • May 16, 2014 10:18 AM BST
Don't you worry about the near million illegals here - in fact 'facts' they don't actually know.
Then there is the 300000  the tories cannot do a thing about. Then the 250 000 suddenly discovered they had miscounted and so it goes on.
Lets not worry about 4.5 million foreign workers here.  Let's not worry about the agency recruitment of low paid foreign workers.  Lets not worry about the companies that only recruit foreign labour.

But lets worry about people like you and northernliar who attempt to confuse and obfuscate by silly personal snide comments like 'I struggle to comprehend' As usual you run out of facts 'facts' and argument and resort to the above comment.  Unfortunately there are people who claim to be socialist but in fact 'facts' support the tories and capitalists in their aim to bring down wages and turn the place into a low wage economy.
Report Facts • May 16, 2014 2:50 PM BST
I keep referring you to my previous post/S regarding the myth of immigrants taking British jobs ( it contains facts ) You studiously keep ignoring it.
Report moisok • May 16, 2014 9:30 PM BST
No you don't This is all old hat from you and your masters from Labour. Even they have had to admit how wrong they have been.
Report Angel Gabrial • May 17, 2014 12:32 AM BST
Not Nigels finest interview.

James O`Brien drills Nigel. It`s quite uncomfortable viewing.

http://www.lbc.co.uk/watch-nigel-farage-v-james-obrien-live-from-1130-90532
Report kenny mann • May 17, 2014 1:05 AM BST
That's because the smug twa t in the pink shirt wouldn't let him speak, much like Griffin on QT.
Report Angel Gabrial • May 17, 2014 1:32 AM BST
Out smugged by a pinky.

However, he had Nigel rocking about his comments about feeling uncomfortable with foreign languages being spoken in public places. O`Brien reminding Nigel that his own children were indeed bilingual and bilingual people including Nigels German/English speaking children are allowed to speak any chosen language in public.

O`Brien certainly had Nigel reeling on the ropes.
Report Facts • May 17, 2014 1:35 AM BST
kenny mann     17 May 14 01:05 
That's because the smug twa t in the pink shirt wouldn't let him speak, much like Griffin on QT.



Otherwise Griffin would have been able to articulate a convincing case for his blatantly fascist and racist policies ?
Don't make me laugh !
Report kenny mann • May 17, 2014 1:36 AM BST
That's not the point!
Report Facts • May 17, 2014 2:08 AM BST
James O'Brien finally shows up Farage for the racist bigot  he is,
Brilliant interview, which had the usually smug and laughing Farage spluttering for a viable retort.

If there were any doubts about how transparent this idiot is , this makes for essential viewing.
Farage is a con man. And he was exposed on this programme.
Report kenny mann • May 17, 2014 2:12 AM BST
The anti Farage brigade are mostly either foreigners or people who live in a nice leafy area surrounded by white English (nap)

I don't eat meat ftr.
Report Facts • May 17, 2014 2:17 AM BST
kenny mann     17 May 14 02:12 
The anti Farage brigade are mostly either foreigners or people who live in a nice leafy area surrounded by white English (nap)



Utter nonsense
Report Angel Gabrial • May 17, 2014 8:18 AM BST
It would be interesting to see a public vote on this question.

Who would you prefer to move into the property next to yours.

A) 7 Romanian men
B) 7 German men


I think that we all know what the answer would be. So the next question is, are the majority of the public officially racist like Nigel?

Serious question.
Report Facts • May 17, 2014 8:39 AM BST
An obnoxious question. And arrogant of you to say we all know what the answer would be . Do we ?
Romanian,German ,Russian, Italian ...........doesn't matter what the fck their nationality is. Good and bad behaviour as neighbours has no bearing on which country you come from. I'm sure there are hundreds of thousands of people in the UK who have white middle class neighbours who make their life he'll by living next door.

I repeat a stupid question. And yes, a bigoted ,racist one ! Shame on you.
Report Facts • May 17, 2014 8:42 AM BST
Sorry - AG . Re read your post and realised from what direction you were aiming the question. Apologies for the personal comment.
Report freeze_the_secret • May 17, 2014 9:10 AM BST
Yep,not often facts gets the wrong end of the stick.
Report rogerthebutler • May 17, 2014 9:12 AM BST
It would be interesting to see a public vote on this question.

Who would you prefer to move into the property next to yours.

A) 7 Romanian men
B) 7 German men


I think that we all know what the answer would be. So the next question is, are the majority of the public officially racist like Nigel?


Is this to illustrate Farage's comments on race or homosexuality?

Serious question.
Report Angel Gabrial • May 17, 2014 9:29 AM BST
Race Roger, but you could use it for the other i guess.

No offence taken Facts.
Report call me a taxi • May 17, 2014 10:10 AM BST
It would be interesting to see a public vote on this question.

Who would you prefer to move into the property next to yours.

A) 7 Romanian men
B) 7 German men


Neither.
Report moisok • May 17, 2014 10:20 AM BST
I think farage is saying what a majority would think/say about romanians moving in next door.
Sad but true.
Report moisok • May 17, 2014 10:27 AM BST
you note that when northerliar is caught out lying he is off and away to an easier target like farage
he has now lied about a 9 year old witch, support of thatcher, UNICEF, and the army.
How many more lies does he tell?
Supposed kebab shop owner as a marxizt supporting non socialist labour party.
and never answers any of these issues.
Report moisok • May 17, 2014 10:43 AM BST
I wonder what Usmaan Attan would say on romanians or any immigrant!!??  see his interview on sky news!!!
Report Big_Issue • May 17, 2014 10:54 AM BST
Whenever Farage speaks, just swop the word 'Jews' for 'immigrants' and it don't half sound bad?

'It's the Jews that are stealing our jobs'
'Would you like to live next door to some Jews'
'60 Million Jews are coming'

Scarey or what?
Report rogerthebutler • May 17, 2014 10:55 AM BST
Romanian, German, Martian I don't give a tuppeny fk.

Do they buy into 'Civic Britishness'?
Do they contribute?
Do they work?
Are they a laugh?
Are they good neighbours?

Ive got a white British family next door to me - the daughter doesn't work, doesn't want to work and has chosen benefits as a lifestyle. They make noise until all hours, park inconsiderately and are a general pain in the ar$e. So if you can give me the contact details of these Germans and Romanians I'll invite them round and see if we can't evict the lot I've currently got and put them in instead - can't be any worse, that's for def'.
Report moisok • May 17, 2014 11:33 AM BST
You are so right big issue
When are all these jews coming then??
I wouldn't mind a few of them living next door to me, instead of all these eastern europeans snatching all our jobs which the government can do nothing about while we are still in the eussr.
Report moisok • May 17, 2014 11:34 AM BST
at least jews wouldn't be trafficking thousands of young girls into this country, unlike the eastern european gangs.
Report Ivor • May 17, 2014 1:29 PM BST
Changing the subject .. I think we should be putting our thoughts into solving RogerButler's problem.. must be a nightmare there. :(
Report kenny mann • May 17, 2014 2:14 PM BST
lol Ivor.
Report call me a taxi • May 17, 2014 2:15 PM BST
MORE LIES FROM NORTHERNNUTJOB
Report Ivor • May 17, 2014 2:19 PM BST
NLad is seriously unbright. Nigel wants quality INDIVIDUALS - said nothing at all about quality nationalities. Stop making things up NLad - it leaves you with zero credibility.
Report Burton-Brewers • May 17, 2014 2:22 PM BST
I must admit that is how I perceived his comment that we should have qualified people rather than un-skilled labour
Report moisok • May 17, 2014 2:27 PM BST
changing the subject why doesnt northernliar replay to any posts
it is all propaganda spewing out - just wait for the bile and hatred for the english to come nearer the 22nd
you note that when northerliar is caught out lying he is off and away to an easier target like farage
he has now lied about a 9 year old witch, support of thatcher, UNICEF, and the army.
How many more lies does he tell?
Supposed kebab shop owner as a marxizt supporting non socialist labour party.
and never answers any of these issues.
NEVER EVER ANSWERS
Report rogerthebutler • May 17, 2014 4:04 PM BST
Cheers Ivor but that bird has flown

Leafy home counties idyll my chuff! Place is full of morbidly obese, bone-idle barstewards, with their hands out, for a bigger cheque from the government or a Happy Meal and no skimping on the fries this time!
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