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08 May 14
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Nigel's whole future is as good as sealed
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In what way?
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It's a line from the XTC song.
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Making Plans For Nigel
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Ah....saw them live in Cheltenham near 1980
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They were excellent.
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He's always on...Churchill got less airtime than this guy
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They only stick him on so the ruling luvvies can bully him..
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Never take us out of the EU and thus can never stop unlimited immigration from it.
Put that on your posters NLad see how many Labour votes drop. |
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1.2 Million UK Citizens work in the EU, should they all come home too?
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or pay 100 quid for visa to holiday in spain? whole things a joke cant believe people think its something worth seriously debating.
428m coming to UK  Like Florence and Provence are going to be empty, because people there are lured to the delights of Luton |
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How many of those have created an over supply of cheap labour though?
I don`t see a dash from our low skilled workers over to Poland for example. |
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Ukip would be dangerous in charge of governing this country. We all know this, however the lack of regulations regarding low-skilled workers piling through via recruitment agencies is an issue.
Whether either Labour or the Tories are going to regulate this is unknown. Miliband has raised it through rhetoric but i`m not so certain. |
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With every progression that is greatly positive there are always side effects that are minor negatives.
The answer is obviously to adapt and turn those minor negatives into positives by investing in re training, launch schemes. housing, hospitals, schools etc. That project will in itself create jobs, and supply chains creating jobs. Or lets just throw the baby out with the bath water UKip style. |
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1.2 Million UK Citizens work in the EU, should they all come home too? brendanuk1 or pay 100 quid for visa to holiday in spain? whole things a joke cant believe people think its something worth seriously debating. How many Swiss work in France/Germany/Italy and commute daily? How many Italians / Germans / French work in Switzerland and commute daily? Doesn't seem a problem for them. So, yes please brendanuk, let's debate. |
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The Welfare State, our low pay economy and the relatively high cost of living (largely caused by high rents subsidised by Housing Benefit) are also part of the problem. UK ciizens won't or don't need to take low pay unskilled jobs as their is no financial incentive to do so. If we increased the minimum wage to something decent and reduced rents, more UK citizens take jobs and we get less immigration from others in the EU prepared to work for less.
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But people receive working tax credits when taking a job on basic minimum wage after being unemployed.
The biggest problem the low-skilled have are the recruitment agencies having the monopoly on low-skilled vacancies and advertising in other EU countries. If the vacancies are there then why do we get to the situation of workfare? Yes workfare is a deterrent of some sorts but also people find themselves on the agency books with thousands of EU workers all being past from pillar to post as the agencies share out the hours. Labour and the Tories need to be addressing this but it seems only nasty Nigel is bringing it up. |
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The young Asian lad had chukker baldscorp on the ropes a few times, thought he was going to start crying at ones point
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swiss have just passed a law (not implemented) recently Feb?, EU have replied with restrictions (implemented). Companies are already leaving Switzerland. I can see swiss backing down first, but who knows maybe they like to be an insular island cut off from europe, its up to them
UK want out then go out. There will be consequences for uk citizens there can be no doubt about it. (im dual nationality so couldnt give a fook either way) |
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You know big worry for the EU is if we walk and are no worse off then how many will follow, lets not forget that most of the Northern European countries only stay because they think they have to. If Britain shows the way they will follow
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The Spanish only wanted to join because they thought they would get paid the same as the Germans and still be able to sleep for half of the day.
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nice level of debate here!
im oot! good luck with Farange making decisions about your futures  |
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Are you in or out brendan UK 1
British frew and frew! |
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uk != Britain
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What companies are leaving Switzerland? People assume non EU views as being extreme right wing due to UKIP but this is simply not the case. Bob Crow was hardly right wing. Le Pen in France has left wing policies.
Switzerland's referundum on immigration hardly fits in with other proposals there lately. Immigration caps will be of far less concern to companies than the 1:12 movement or calls for a £15 an hour minimum wage. If every country in the EU and those aligned like Switzerland had the balls to implement such laws together, at the same time, then no company could threaten to leave unless they were willing to leave Europe completely. Who would want to leave an EU that did something like that? Instead, as far as I see it, the EU is just a way to get cheap labour for corporations. |
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27244959 The oil services giant Weatherford recently announced it would be moving its European headquarters from Switzerland to Ireland. The company told its shareholders in a blunt statement that recent votes on pay limits for top executives, and now on curbing immigration, had made Switzerland "unpredictable". the switch might be more tax (EU forced) or 1:12 related, but they mentioned curb in immigration as a reason. A jump from London to Dublin, would be alot easier to do than Geneva to Dublin. Yahoo left last year for Dublin. Like i said if UK want out, then vote UKIP in a general election (not 1 MP curiously ) or vote out in referendum (no sign of that soon). The exit door is open just walk through it, how hard can it be, even little switzerland has passed anti immigration laws against the big bad EU  For me its just alot of chatter and hot air about nothing, UK voters dont have same views as Farange, even if his followers are over represented on forums and like to give out about foreigners in general |
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So they all move ... to Dublin. Nothing to do with low Corporation Tax then?
They don't mention how much less tax they will be paying, but look to blame other reasons. Strange that. Curbing immigration - OK let's look at their claim in more detail. How many oil rigs are there in Switzerland? I'll take a wild guess ... none. The vast majority of their staff will be employed off-shore. So why is immigration into Switzerland a problem for them? |
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Oh, and let's not even start on the "pay limits for top executives" bit!
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I just read that and it gets to the heart of the debate for me. The immigration thing is a great cover story for these companies now.
Xstrata were threatening to leave because of the 1:12 well before the immigration referendum. They are worried that executive pay will be cut, they will have to pay higher wages and will find it harder to get cheap foreign labour. For 'immigration' just read 'access to cheaper labour'. Unfortunately for people like me the only anti-EU voice getting airtime is Farage. |
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From Wikipedia:
In April 2014, Weatherford announced that its board of directors approved the relocation of its legal domicile to Ireland from Switzerland. The company will continue to maintain its operational office in Houston, Texas. [b] So basically in Switzerland they have a few lawyers and accountants. I reckon any immigration curbs have nothing to do with moving. |
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I think EU is good thing, further expansion to the east, will be better, hope one day Russia will be inside EU. If you look at the world in 50, 100 years time, Small countries will be at disadvantage when they have to compete or negotiate with Russia or India.
But EU to be sustainable need to give some power back to countries:- like level of immigration, welfare, policing, business rates etc. |
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Having just watched last nights question time i have to say Nigel Farage was brilliant as per and knocked the other four panelists arguments into a cocked hat.The red faced fellah at the back of the audience who asked not to be interrupted by Farage before he even spoke looked to have serious health issues and the hatred in his face towards Farage was quite menacing.
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Competing with China (not Russia) and India regarding my previous post.
@twizzle22, I think Farage have many good points but i don't agree with his plan to take of Britain out of Europe. I think Britain should try to change, find allies and influence Europe inside European Union for the better instead of getting out. All Farage concern can be sorted out inside Europe. After all closer Europe was our idea (Churchill and co). Europe have been powerful force for good, helping Eastern countries to become democratic and wealth,therefore expanding market for our goods, it has also help to keep the peace for the last 70 years or so. We had powerful commonwealth at one point but we have completed neglect it, and now it is too late. |
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The oil services giant Weatherford recently announced it would be moving its European headquarters from Switzerland to Ireland.
So basically no staff,just a shell office with a cleaner and someone to answer the phone. |
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I think Britain should try to change, find allies and influence Europe inside European Union for the better instead of getting out.
Sorry bizman, but this is just another myth. Researchers calculated that since accessible records began in 1996, Britain had voted No 55 times but the Council passed the legislation every time. http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/466737/REVEALED-The-55-failures-that-show-the-UK-has-little-influence-on-the-EU We seem to be really having an influence there then.... |
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Farage will never have a job of any real importance
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I only caught the end of this but Farage ranting on over other people didn't do him any favours. I caught the guy at the back asking him to not speak over him, so I can only think he had been doing this all show.
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only caught the end of this and every time Nigel went to speak
chukka and grant spoke over him. |
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b043b2rs/Question_Time_08_05_2014/
watch the last few minutes |